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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 09 Jun 2016, 16:29

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Afaik after Our battalions took Tskhinvali they ended the operation and just sat there doing nothing, totally unaware that Russian forces were advancing. And worst of all due to Saakashvili reforms, the defense ministry was occupied by inexperienced "children" with no idea about war. Saakashvili always wanted to be in charge, he didn't want any smart tactician who could potentially rival him, When retired generals offered their help during the war he told them to fuck off, only to end up begging them just a week later when the war was already lost. and that's why he's an idiot.



The Georgian army attacked the Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia, and you did not expect offensive the 58th Army?

This is because the Georgian army trained counselors from the United States ... :lol:
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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 09 Jun 2016, 16:36

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Then why don't you get out there. So you don't need to but you just make people miserable for fun ?


Ossetians and Abkhazians do not want to be a part of Georgia.

And residents Transnistria as a part of Romania.

It is necessary to force them to act against their wishes? 8-)
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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby fullbackace » Thu, 09 Jun 2016, 16:59

Vova12 wrote:fullbackace

Then why don't you get out there. So you don't need to but you just make people miserable for fun ?


Ossetians and Abkhazians do not want to be a part of Georgia.

And residents Transnistria as a part of Romania.

It is necessary to force them to act against their wishes? 8-)


Easy to say after cleansing the local Georgian population.... Lets return the refugees to their rightful homes and then state who wants what.
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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 09 Jun 2016, 17:22

fullbackace wrote:
Vova12 wrote:fullbackace

Then why don't you get out there. So you don't need to but you just make people miserable for fun ?


Ossetians and Abkhazians do not want to be a part of Georgia.

And residents Transnistria as a part of Romania.

It is necessary to force them to act against their wishes? 8-)


Easy to say after cleansing the local Georgian population.... Lets return the refugees to their rightful homes and then state who wants what.

Now that the conflict can not be solved.

Blood spilled remember for a long time.

In the future this conflict can be resolved, but NATO that Georgia will not be able to help.
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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby amz » Sun, 03 Jul 2016, 14:03

Vova12 wrote:And residents Transnistria as a part of Romania.

No sane people in Romania would ever want that North Korea type of place in Romania :lol: You can keep it, if the Ukrainians will allow it.

As for Moldova (actually Basarabia) being conquered from Ottomans, this is laughable ignorance. It was part of Moldova principality, one of the two principalities who founded modern Romania. There wasn't any Russian there until 1812.

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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 03 Jul 2016, 18:25

amz wrote:
Vova12 wrote:And residents Transnistria as a part of Romania.

No sane people in Romania would ever want that North Korea type of place in Romania :lol: You can keep it, if the Ukrainians will allow it.


In Transnistria, Ukrainians, Moldovans and Russian about the same amount.

And nobody wants to Romania.


amz wrote:As for Moldova (actually Basarabia) being conquered from Ottomans, this is laughable ignorance. It was part of Moldova principality, one of the two principalities who founded modern Romania. There wasn't any Russian there until 1812.

After the Russian-Turkish war of 1787 - 1791 the border has become a place on the Dniester.

Transnistria became part of the Russian Empire.

And in 1792 Generalissimos Suvorov was founded the city of Tiraspol.

I'm talking about Transnistria. No Romanians in 1812 were not there.

There were Wallachians and Moldavians. Moldavia was a vassal of the Ottoman Empire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Tur ... E2%80%9312)

After the defeat of the Turks, she lost territory.

About Romania then nobody heard.

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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby amz » Mon, 04 Jul 2016, 08:35

I think is a misunderstanding. Nobody here wants Transnistria, it's not considered as Romanian (or Moldavian) land in modern time; in medieval times Moldovan border was few kilometers over the Dniester.; So you can keep that shit hole who resembles North Korea, it's anyway a useless piece of land now that Ukraine turned against Russia.

I don't know what kind of stories you've been told in Russia but there's no plan/intentions/aim from Romania's part to occupy Transnistria.

Turks didn't lost any territory of them; Romanian principalities were vassal states with special status:
https://books.google.ro/books?id=80lLuG ... on&f=false

Ottomans were not allowed to build mosques in this territory while we could build churches, something that was forbidden in other Ottoman territories with Christian majority. Basarabia wasn't theirs to give in 1812...but Moldova did not had a standing army to oppose to such an arbitrary act.

LE, as a joke:
http://independent.md/rogozin-primit-pe ... 3uwmrh94_5

Russian GSM provider announced Rogozin after he arrived in Chisinau that he is in Romania :D :thumbup:

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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 05 Jul 2016, 17:55

I'll tell you honestly.

Neither Moldova ,nor the Baltic states, neither Poland ,nor Romania or Hungary the Russian did not want to occupy!

What for ? Dating you instead of the European Union?!?!?

But Russia will not allow to kill and burn the Russian on Ukraine.

And if Moldova wants to can join Romania, for the sake of this one will not start a nuclear war ... 8-)
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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby fullbackace » Tue, 05 Jul 2016, 23:05

Vova12 wrote:I'll tell you honestly.

Neither Moldova ,nor the Baltic states, neither Poland ,nor Romania or Hungary the Russian did not want to occupy!



It was an accident, of course. They were there to ask for some salt and beet for borscht.
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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 06 Jul 2016, 04:55

You should not have come to us together with Hitler.

We do not been invited to his home.

So the USSR found myself in Europe.

But Gorbachev VOLUNTARY withdrew from Europe.

Now only the United States occupied Europe, but you do not resent it seems ... 8-)
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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 15 Jul 2016, 21:21

In Turkey the military coup.

Where Erdogan will fly?

Hopefully not in Russia ... 8-)
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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby amz » Sat, 30 Jul 2016, 06:06

read some history Vova, put a stop to your ignorance:

https://depts.washington.edu/cartah/tex ... obile.html

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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 30 Jul 2016, 06:59

amz wrote:read some history Vova, put a stop to your ignorance:

https://depts.washington.edu/cartah/tex ... obile.html

You do not have anything newer than 1927 books?

You could not expres their views theses?

Im too busy to read that all this book. 8-)
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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby amz » Mon, 01 Aug 2016, 10:37

It's written by outside source. Read for yourself or stay ignorant.

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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 02 Aug 2016, 16:10

amz wrote:It's written by outside source. Read for yourself or stay ignorant.

I was a little interested in what is behind a Dniester, so that I will remain in ignorance ... 8-)
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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby amz » Fri, 05 Aug 2016, 12:38

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/art ... ignty.html

It doesn't look like. What they were doing on the wrong side of Dniestr?

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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 05 Aug 2016, 17:58

amz wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3725351/Moldova-Russia-military-exercises-undermine-sovereignty.html

It doesn't look like. What they were doing on the wrong side of Dniestr?

And what do the US troops in Romania?

And why Romania has supported the NATO aggression against Serbia?

Russian troops are stationed in Transdniestria in accordance with an agreement with the Government of Transnistria.

On the left bank of the Dniester. 95% of the border runs along the Dniester.

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Do you want to be that Romania had a border in 1941 when it was an ally of Hitler?

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Try again, NATO can succeed unlike the Wehrmacht ... :D
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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby amz » Mon, 08 Aug 2016, 06:09

Vova12 wrote:And what do the US troops in Romania?


It's solely our business who we invite in our backyard to have a BBQ...

Vova12 wrote:And why Romania has supported the NATO aggression against Serbia?


Probably because Yugos supported your aggression in '89 along with some stinky works after the death of Tito.

Vova12 wrote:Russian troops are stationed in Transdniestria in accordance with an agreement with the Government of Transnistria.


Transnistria is not a state, it's a mob run lawless region supported with Russian money.


Vova12 wrote:Image

Do you want to be that Romania had a border in 1941 when it was an ally of Hitler?

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Try again, NATO can succeed unlike the Wehrmacht ... :D


You must be delusional to think NATO will ever start a war against Russia. But yeah, I get what you're saying, we noticed Russian works in Transylvania. Only issue is, the tools planted by KGB years ago are not there anymore ;)

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Re: Russia - Ukraine - Transnistria

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 08 Aug 2016, 18:00

amz wrote:It's solely our business who we invite in our backyard to have a BBQ...


At the beginning of the conflict between the United States and Russia from Romania and its misile defense will make a barbecue.

Do you mean that ?

amz wrote:Transnistria is not a state, it's a mob run lawless region supported with Russian money.

Our money we spend as we wish.

US and EU finance Kosovo, while Russia supports Transnistria.


amz wrote:You must be delusional to think NATO will ever start a war against Russia. But yeah, I get what you're saying, we noticed Russian works in Transylvania. Only issue is, the tools planted by KGB years ago are not there anymore ;)

If NATO does not want to attack the Russian border will mean there is where she is now. 8-)
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