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2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby 4N » Tue, 27 Aug 2019, 00:25

Starts on Saturday. After US domination in 2010 and 2014, this year could be interesting. Australia's exhibition win over the US will have teams like Serbia and Greece believing they can win.

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SATURDAY, AUGUST 31
Angola vs. Serbia 3:30am ET
Poland vs. Venezuela 4:00am ET
Russia vs. Nigeria 4:30am ET
Iran vs. Puerto Rico 4:30am ET
Philippines vs. Italy 7:30am ET
Cote d’Ivoire vs. China 8:00am ET
Argentina vs. Korea 8:30am ET
Spain vs. Tunisia 8:30am ET

SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 1
Canada vs. Australia 3:30am ET
New Zealand vs. Brazil 4:00am ET
Turkey vs. Japan 4:30am ET
Dominican Republic vs. Jordan 4:30am ET
Senegal vs. Lithuania 7:30am ET
Greece vs. Montenegro 8:00am ET
Czech Republic vs. United States 8:30am ET
France vs. Germany 8:30am ET

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 2
Italy vs. Angola 3:30am ET
Venezuela vs. Cote d’Ivoire 4:00am ET
Nigeria vs. Argentina 4:30am ET
Tunisia vs. Iran 4:30am ET
Serbia vs. Philippines 7:30am ET
China vs. Poland 8:00am ET
Korea vs. Russia 8:30m ET
Puerto Rico vs. Spain 8:30am ET

TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3
Australia vs. Senegal 3:30am ET
Montenegro vs. New Zealand 4:00am ET
Japan vs. Czech Republic 4:30am ET
Germany vs. Dominican Republic 4:30am ET
Lithuania vs. Canada 7:30am ET
Brazil vs. Greece 8:00am ET
United States vs. Turkey 8:30am ET
Jordan vs. France 8:30am ET

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 4
Angola vs. Philippines 3:30am ET
Cote d’Ivoire vs. Poland 4:00am ET
Korea vs. Nigeria 4:30am ET
Puerto Rico vs. Tunisia 4:30am ET
Italy vs. Serbia 7:30am ET
Venezuela vs. China 8:00am ET
Russia vs. Argentina 8:30am ET
Spain vs. Iran 8:30am ET

THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 5
Canada vs. Senegal 3:30am ET
Brazil vs. Montenegro 4:00am ET
Turkey vs. Czech Republic 4:30am ET
Germany vs. Jordan 4:30am ET
Lithuania vs. Australia 7:30am ET
Greece vs. New Zealand 8:00am ET
United States vs. Japan 8:30am ET
Dominican Republic vs. France 8:30am ET


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_FIBA ... Cup_squads

Odds:

USA -180
Serbia +325
Greece +1000
Spain +1400
France +2800
Australia +3300
Canada +5000
Lithuania +5000
Argentina +8000
Italy +10000

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby thatrugbyguy » Tue, 27 Aug 2019, 10:04

This one is going to be close. USA are fielding a 'C' level team.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby 4N » Tue, 27 Aug 2019, 18:40

Yep. I think even the Aussies have an outside shot. Lots of players with experience in the US who have played together for years. I’m a Dellavedova fan.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 27 Aug 2019, 21:24

We're no first level favorites by any means, but watch out because our path to semis is extremely easy. We can only fuck it up.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby 4N » Tue, 27 Aug 2019, 21:32

Aside from the hosts, Spain looks to be in the easiest pool. No JJ Barea for Puerto Rico either.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 28 Aug 2019, 02:16

Spanish have a pretty good draw, same with Argentina and Serbia. We've got Lithuania in the first round, but we should still make it out of that group and into the second group phase. We should make the quarter finals from there still but there's going to be a decent chance we have to face the USA.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby 4N » Sun, 01 Sep 2019, 03:42

First decent matchup later, Canada vs Australia.

https://www.vipbox.live/canada-vs-australia-1-live

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sun, 01 Sep 2019, 08:44

While most foreign NBA players will be suiting up for their NT, that won't be the case with NZL's Steven Adams. I'm so angry with Adams turning his back on the NZL team just because of what apparently is a grudge with NZ basketball from his age group years. Actually I don't really think it's that at all. I just don't think he's interested in repping for his national team, despite the fact NZL needs our best players even more than most. I just don't think little ol' NZ is good enough for the Adams boy.

A lot of Kiwi sports fans have been very patient supporting the guy saying he needed to cement his place at Oklahoma first, but it's past that. In the last few years he's kept on saying he might make himself available (e.g for the WC qualifiers), but has consistently ruled himself out when push came to shove. Even if by some miracle NZ made it back to the Olympic games I highly doubt he'd come to the table even for that. I think it's high time NZ fans turned their back on him. Guy should turn in his NZ passport.

I'm not expecting miracles from NZ. Probably looking at last in our group but just hope they give it their best shot.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby 4N » Sun, 01 Sep 2019, 09:14

4N wrote:First decent matchup later, Canada vs Australia.

https://www.vipbox.live/canada-vs-australia-1-live


Aussies up by 20 in the 4th. Could be a dark horse. The core of this team came up through the ranks together. A bit like the good Argentine teams of 10-15 years ago in that respect.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 01 Sep 2019, 09:53

I would never consider Australia a dark horse. They should have won bronze medal back in Rio 2016.

YamahaKiwi wrote:While most foreign NBA players will be suiting up for their NT, that won't be the case with NZL's Steven Adams.


Unfortunately you're not the only ones. It's too common. Part of Spanish success in the last 15 years was essentially due to the federation doing good deals with NBA franchises and players taking warm-ups like holidays with friends. You hear all kind of stories about their training camps. In fact they've often paid the price in pool stages with subpar performances.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby 4N » Sun, 01 Sep 2019, 10:06

You may not but most people would. And the odds reflect that.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 01 Sep 2019, 10:10

I know, but we talk about a team who just beat the USA, ran them close in 2016... Maybe not right there with the USA, Serbia and Greece, but just behind.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby 4N » Sun, 01 Sep 2019, 10:16

I agree they’re an impressive group made for this style of competition. Lots of good three point shooters.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sun, 01 Sep 2019, 10:31

Armchair Fan wrote:I would never consider Australia a dark horse. They should have won bronze medal back in Rio 2016.

YamahaKiwi wrote:While most foreign NBA players will be suiting up for their NT, that won't be the case with NZL's Steven Adams.


Unfortunately you're not the only ones. It's too common. Part of Spanish success in the last 15 years was essentially due to the federation doing good deals with NBA franchises and players taking warm-ups like holidays with friends. You hear all kind of stories about their training camps. In fact they've often paid the price in pool stages with subpar performances.


Yeah but at least they actually put up their hand to play in the World Champs and Olympics for their country unlike Adams. I tell you, next time I go the States, if he's still playing NBA I might deliberately go watch one of his games...just so I can support the other team!

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sun, 01 Sep 2019, 13:37

Australia should have won a medal of some colour over the last 24 years. We’ve had enough talent, just never been able to win something. At least they’ve beaten Canada. Wasn’t looking all that comfortable for a bit there.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby 4N » Sun, 01 Sep 2019, 21:03

Germany ran France close, 78-74. That’s a surprise.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby 4N » Mon, 02 Sep 2019, 17:11

Poland beat China in OT :shock:


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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby rey200 » Tue, 03 Sep 2019, 07:09

YamahaKiwi wrote:While most foreign NBA players will be suiting up for their NT, that won't be the case with NZL's Steven Adams. I'm so angry with Adams turning his back on the NZL team just because of what apparently is a grudge with NZ basketball from his age group years. Actually I don't really think it's that at all. I just don't think he's interested in repping for his national team, despite the fact NZL needs our best players even more than most. I just don't think little ol' NZ is good enough for the Adams boy.

A lot of Kiwi sports fans have been very patient supporting the guy saying he needed to cement his place at Oklahoma first, but it's past that. In the last few years he's kept on saying he might make himself available (e.g for the WC qualifiers), but has consistently ruled himself out when push came to shove. Even if by some miracle NZ made it back to the Olympic games I highly doubt he'd come to the table even for that. I think it's high time NZ fans turned their back on him. Guy should turn in his NZ passport.

I'm not expecting miracles from NZ. Probably looking at last in our group but just hope they give it their best shot.


Reading about NZ Basketball reminded me of Sean Marks, who played for the club I support in Poland and some other teams ( :lol: ) in his career. NZ was 4th at the FIBA World Cup, must have been 2002 or something. I read somewhere there's a Sean Marks GM at the Nets and I thought "what a coincidence" but you'll know that that's just the same guy.

Polish media are excited, because they think the refs where doing their best to help China.
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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby thatrugbyguy » Tue, 03 Sep 2019, 08:20

Poland, Argentina, Russia, Spain and Serbia are all through to the second group phase. Poland, Argentina and Russia will be in Group I, Spain and Serbia in Group J.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby YamahaKiwi » Tue, 03 Sep 2019, 11:40

rey200 wrote:
YamahaKiwi wrote:While most foreign NBA players will be suiting up for their NT, that won't be the case with NZL's Steven Adams. I'm so angry with Adams turning his back on the NZL team just because of what apparently is a grudge with NZ basketball from his age group years. Actually I don't really think it's that at all. I just don't think he's interested in repping for his national team, despite the fact NZL needs our best players even more than most. I just don't think little ol' NZ is good enough for the Adams boy.

A lot of Kiwi sports fans have been very patient supporting the guy saying he needed to cement his place at Oklahoma first, but it's past that. In the last few years he's kept on saying he might make himself available (e.g for the WC qualifiers), but has consistently ruled himself out when push came to shove. Even if by some miracle NZ made it back to the Olympic games I highly doubt he'd come to the table even for that. I think it's high time NZ fans turned their back on him. Guy should turn in his NZ passport.

I'm not expecting miracles from NZ. Probably looking at last in our group but just hope they give it their best shot.


Reading about NZ Basketball reminded me of Sean Marks, who played for the club I support in Poland and some other teams ( :lol: ) in his career. NZ was 4th at the FIBA World Cup, must have been 2002 or something. I read somewhere there's a Sean Marks GM at the Nets and I thought "what a coincidence" but you'll know that that's just the same guy.

Polish media are excited, because they think the refs where doing their best to help China.


Marks played in Poland? I never knew that. Always the NZ players who got contracts in Europe were going to Turkish clubs, that I saw anyway. Yeah 2002 was our dream tournament. I went to NZ v Puerto Rico in Hiroshima in the FIBA WC held in Japan in 2006 when we clinched our 2nd round place.

Well done to you guys. Poland is not one of the teams I was watching closely. Maybe you'll slip under the radar like we did in '02 :)

For us, at least we weren't disgraced against Brazil, and happily it seems we got well under the skin of Montenegro (their coach even got ejected) and pressured them into an very indisciplined performance to get the win. So we won't walk away winless in 2019. Unfortunately the last game is against toughest opposition Greece. Probably our best chance to make the 2nd round is to fight hard and keep the for and against in a loss to the minimum against the Greeks, and then hope Montenegro beat Brazil to leave all three on 1-2 and go through better for and against stats :|

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby 4N » Tue, 03 Sep 2019, 14:03

Wow... Brazil just knocked off Greece 79-78.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 04 Sep 2019, 01:05

USA only just beat Turkey! Turkey had 4 free throws they butchered too.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby 4N » Wed, 04 Sep 2019, 12:47

Venezuela up 10 on China at halftime. If they were to win, China would go into the 17-32 bracket. They had an extremely easy draw...

https://www.vipbox.live/venezuela-vs-china-1-live

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby 4N » Wed, 04 Sep 2019, 13:55

Venezuela advances. This has been a tournament of upsets so far.

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Re: 2019 FIBA World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 04 Sep 2019, 15:21

Watch out, most Spanish successes in international basketball have come after shitty pool stages... :lol:

On a more serious note, I fear Italy and Serbia may give us the spanking of our lives.

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