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Re: Brexit

Postby iul » Tue, 24 Apr 2018, 05:24

4N wrote:After the Muenster attack was wrongly pinned on a Muslim by many right-wingers, today's van attack in Toronto was assumed to to be Islam related after video of a heavily accented man circulated. Then his name was released - Armenian Alek Minassian. I hope scaremongers like iul and others will learn a lesson, but I doubt it.

What lesson is there to be learned? Importing muslims is a good idea because these two attacks weren't made by them?

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 24 Apr 2018, 18:14

Bolaroid wrote:Britain already tried that appeasement policy in 1938 with the Munich Agreement but Hitler broke the agreement invading Czechoslovakia and then Poland.

Hitler could not be trusted. PM Churchill knew this and said "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last"

Look at Nazi-Soviet Pact, Hitler broke his promise to Stalin. Hitler's promises were worthless, any peace with him would have been temporary.


Go on...


Continental Europe is better to be subordinate to a greater power, otherwise as history shows they will fight with each other like bad children. :)

In reality Hitler admired the British Empire and considered war on it a crime against Europe.
All that Hitler needed was a division of spheres of influenc with the British Empire and free hands in the east.

Hitler garanted the integriti of British colonies.
Why Britain did not make peace with him for me is a mystery.

Have you read Halder"s diaries?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Halder_Diaries

31 July 1940.

http://militera.lib.ru/db/halder/1940_07.html

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"We will not attack England, but we will break the illusions that give England the will to resist. Then you can hope for a change in its position. By itself, the war is won. France fell away from the "British lion." Italy fetters British troops. Underwater and air war can decide the outcome of the war, but it will last a year or two.

The hope of England is Russia and America. If hopes for Russia crumble, America will also fall away from England, since the defeat of Russia will result in Japan's incredible strengthening in East Asia. [146]

Russia is the East Asian sword of England and America against Japan. Here blows unpleasant for England wind. The Japanese, like the Russians, have their own plan, according to which Russia must be eliminated before the end of the war. Russian film about the victorious war! England especially counts on Russia. Something happened in London! The British were completely lost heart, now they suddenly rose again.

Overheard conversations. Russia is unhappy with the rapid development of events in Western Europe. It's enough for Russia to tell England that she does not want to see Germany too strong so that the British cling to this statement like a drowning straw, and they began to hope that in six to eight months things will turn out quite differently.

If Russia is crushed, England will lose the last hope. Then Germany will prevail in Europe and the Balkans {147}.

Conclusion: In accordance with this reasoning, Russia must be eliminated. Term is spring of 1941.

The sooner we split Russia, the better. The operation will only make sense if we, with one swift blow, defeat the entire state. Only the seizure of a part of the territory is not enough.

Stopping the winter is dangerous. Therefore, it is better to wait {148}, but to make a firm decision to destroy Russia. This is also necessary, given the situation on the Baltic Sea. The existence of the second great power [of Russia] on the Baltic Sea is intolerable. The beginning of the [military campaign] - May 1941. The duration of the operation is five months. It would be better to start as early as this year, but this is not appropriate, since it is necessary to carry out the operation with one stroke. The goal is to destroy the vital force of Russia".

You can find these diaries in English.

Yes, Russia will also feel safer when gay - prades take place in Europe, not military parades.
The problem is that Europe is a spring-board for an attack on Russia for the US.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Bolaroid » Tue, 24 Apr 2018, 21:53

Vova12 wrote:In reality Hitler admired the British Empire and considered war on it a crime against Europe.
All that Hitler needed was a division of spheres of influenc with the British Empire and free hands in the east.

Hitler garanted the integriti of British colonies.

Why Britain did not make peace with him for me is a mystery.

Hitler could say one thing, and then do something different. After any peace negotiation it may not have been Hitler's intention to invade Britain, but who could be sure? He was not trustworthy.

This is Neville Chamberlain, British Prime Minister declaring peace after the Munich agreement with Hitler in 1938:

http://prod-cdn-history-co-uk.s3.amazon ... cFtILNC36G

Less than 1 year later, Hitler broke the agreement.

We have an expression in the UK: "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"

Yes, Russia will also feel safer when gay - prades take place in Europe, not military parades.
The problem is that Europe is a spring-board for an attack on Russia for the US.

The European nations generally view any US military presence as defence from an attack by Russia.

Maybe you do not hear this in Russia but many of these European nations fear Russian invasion particularly Scandanavia and the Baltics. To them, the US is their protection from Putin.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 27 Apr 2018, 17:13

Bolaroid wrote:The European nations generally view any US military presence as defence from an attack by Russia.

Maybe you do not hear this in Russia but many of these European nations fear Russian invasion particularly Scandanavia and the Baltics. To them, the US is their protection from Putin.

Russia has never fought against Norway ,against Sweden was not at war for 200 years.
Finland fought twice in the last century, but Finland is not afraid of Putin.

The occupation of US is a reality for Europe, and the occupation of Europe by Russia is a propaganda lie.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 27 Apr 2018, 18:11

Bolaroid wrote:Hitler could say one thing, and then do something different. After any peace negotiation it may not have been Hitler's intention to invade Britain, but who could be sure? He was not trustworthy.

This is Neville Chamberlain, British Prime Minister declaring peace after the Munich agreement with Hitler in 1938:

http://prod-cdn-history-co-uk.s3.amazon ... cFtILNC36G

Less than 1 year later, Hitler broke the agreement.

We have an expression in the UK: "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"


What was the purpos of British Empire in this war?
Save Empire or not?

In my opinion British Empire could survive only with its own neutrality during the war in the East.

"Destroyers for Bases Agreement" shook the British Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destroyer ... _Agreement

and the "Atlantic Charter" destroyed it.

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To survive Britain was to start against the US))
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 09 May 2018, 06:07

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Re: Brexit

Postby STMKY » Sat, 19 May 2018, 19:15

I want to confirm my assumption. All major global media after the news of the Russian team's exit to the World Cup also showed Putin's passage on Kamaz along the Crimean bridge. Even Russophobic Euronews. It seems they need Putin to solve many world problems. Therefore, they supported Russia with their resources.

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Re: Brexit

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 23 May 2018, 13:33

The next immigration wave is hitting Germany very hard.
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland ... Hoehe.html

7493 Brits got a German passport in 2017 - up 162% from the year before. If this continues 19482 will get one in 2018, 51043 in 2019 and 132712 in 2020.
Until one day we will wake up, there is no proper bread available any more and we have to eat that wobbly white shitty thing they call "toast".
That's when we will realize, that Germany has been taking over by the long lost brothers from the rainy and foggy islands in the North West.

On the upside, the quality of the tea and our national rugby team might improve a fair bit.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 23 May 2018, 16:21

Hundreds thousands also go to us. Mostly they are Ukrainians and Russians.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 23 May 2018, 16:26

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Re: Brexit

Postby STMKY » Wed, 23 May 2018, 16:54

Ukrainians and Russians is a Russians and Russians. Like Bavarians and Shwabians is a Germans and Germans. Borders since 1991 is a little time for our history.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 23 May 2018, 17:34

STMKY wrote:Ukrainians and Russians is a Russians and Russians. Like Bavarians and Shwabians is a Germans and Germans. Borders since 1991 is a little time for our history.

Fuck these brothers, id rather be orphan ...
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Re: Brexit

Postby STMKY » Wed, 23 May 2018, 17:50

No, they are not brothers. This is a propaganda stamp, which was specially invented by the Trotskyites to fight against the Russian people. We are one people. And brothers can be Serbs, Germans, Czechs, etc.
I have in view of 80% of the population of fail state Ukraine (Okraina). Residents of Kiev, Chernigov, Poltava, Kharkov, Odessa, Hersson, etc. But residents of the western regions around Lvov, they were Russian 800 years ago. But during this time they mingled with other peoples, significantly changed the language, religion, genotype, mentality and culture. It's a different people. A resident of Kiev is no different from a resident of Vladivostok, but with a resident of Lvov, he has several differences (language, religion, genotype, culture and mentality).

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 23 May 2018, 18:07

When did you last communicat with them?
These people believe that they will be accepted into EU, that the US will give them a lot of money, that they are going to Europe ...

In reality for 25 years of independenc population of Ukraine fell by one third and they destroyed industry !

In reality Ukraine is not Little Russia, its a Big Moldova ...
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Re: Brexit

Postby STMKY » Wed, 23 May 2018, 18:47

If we isolate Siberia or Ural. Wash the local Russian brains, then they will say in 25 years that they are not Russian. They will create an artificial language, a new archaic culture. They will propagandize that the Russians are invaders. And there are already such projects. But they are still minimal. The site "I'm a Siberian" is an Anglo-Saxon classics for bleeding parts of one people. About 100 years ago, they same invented Ukrainians.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 23 May 2018, 19:00

Well are you ready to rebuild the industry these assholes again?
Russia did this twice already after Civil War and World War II!

In 1991 Ukraine was the most developed republic of the former USSR!

Nikolaev shipyards, Yuzmash missiles, Kharkov tanks, Crimean resort, Odessa merchant flet, Motor Sich helicopter engin, Antonov planes, Lvov buses ...
Can enumerat to infiniti!

Who wants to become Europe let it be, who wants to be Russian again let him choose the way Donbass ...
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Re: Brexit

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 24 May 2018, 14:06

Vova12 wrote:Hundreds thousands also go to us. Mostly they are Ukrainians and Russians.



That's a surpringly low number of Ukraine people, would have guessed more.

Apart from that, my post was a joke. Most of those Brits have German grand-parents who fled the 3rd Reich and therefore are eligible for a passport.
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Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 24 May 2018, 14:57

RugbyLiebe wrote:That's a surpringly low number of Ukraine people, would have guessed more.


These are those residents of Ukraine who received Russian passport, hundreds of thousands live and work without citizenship.
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Re: Brexit

Postby 4N » Thu, 24 May 2018, 17:42

STMKY wrote:But residents of the western regions around Lvov, they were Russian 800 years ago. But during this time they mingled with other peoples, significantly changed the language, religion, genotype, mentality and culture. It's a different people. A resident of Kiev is no different from a resident of Vladivostok, but with a resident of Lvov, he has several differences (language, religion, genotype, culture and mentality).


Rusyns are actually genetically some of the oldest DNA in Europe, similar to Basques and Sardinians. The Carpathian mountains protected them from invaders.

http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.3378/027.081.0104

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 26 May 2018, 08:19

85 thousand Ukrainians received a Russian passport only in 2017!
This is very much !

We remember who helped Ukraine to become democratic and prosperos ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6eyqEiRYP8

This was done to tear Ukraine away from Russia.
Okay, it happened, but it only strenghtened Russia.
The Republics of former USSR weakened Russia and forced them to subsidized.
Now Russia behaves like a classical Western country in the postcolonial world.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 27 May 2018, 04:45

Edward Snowden: There’s No One Trump Loves More Than Vladimir Putin 8-)

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ed ... 8a880b7451
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Re: Brexit

Postby differentWorlds » Mon, 28 May 2018, 07:44

4N wrote:
Rusyns are actually genetically some of the oldest DNA in Europe, similar to Basques and Sardinians. The Carpathian mountains protected them from invaders.

http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.3378/027.081.0104

I meant the Galicians. Yes, they were genetically 800 years ago, they were the same as the Rusyns of Transcarpathia, and mentally did not differ from all other Russians. But over 800 years they have undergone various conquests. The first concentration camps in Europe were used against Rusyns. The aim of Austro-Hungary was to destroy their Russian identity. Who refused to call himself a Ukrainian, that is, an anti-Russian man of a new artificial nationality, they were killed in the concentration camps of Talergof and Terezin. But in Transcarpathia there was a Rusyn self-consciousness among local residents. Rusyns are the 4th regional group of the Russian people. Usually they are forgotten and only three are spoken about: the Great Russians, Little Russians and Belarusians.
But despite the vast territory of settlement from the Carpathians to the Pacific Ocean, the Russian people are very monotonous. Genetically monotonous, if you take out the brackets of rusin. There are small differences in rural dialects. A single mentality. In small France and Germany, there are many more differences within the French and German peoples. Therefore, it's funny when a resident of Kiev has a Russian name, speaking in Russian, goes to a Russian church, apparently the same as Russian, but says that he is not Russian, but Ukrainian. This is purely propaganda.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 30 May 2018, 05:00

I think we can not agree.
With religios fanatics this can not be done.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 01 Jun 2018, 18:40

"There is," he said, "no alliance, as once there was;
we are treated as slaves. When does even a legate come among us, though he come only
with a burdensome retinue and in all the haughtiness of power? We are handed over to
prefects and centurions, and when they are glutted with our spoils and our blood, then they
are changed, and new receptacles for plunder, new terms for spoliation, are discovered. Now
the conscription is at hand, tearing, we may say, for ever children from parents, and brothers
from brothers. Never has the power of Rome been more depressed. In the winter quarters of
the legions there is nothing but property to plunder and a few old men. Only dare to look up,
and cease to tremble at the empty names of legions. For we have a vast force of horse and
foot; we have the Germans our kinsmen; we have Gaul bent on the same objects. Even to the
Roman people this war will not be displeasing; if defeated, we shall still reckon it a service to
Vespasian, and for success no account need be rendered".

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 01 Jun 2018, 18:46

But the US is not Rome, it is Carthagen.
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