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Brexit

What would you vote?

I'd vote IN
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I'd vote OUT
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24%
I don't know / care
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7%
 
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 08 Oct 2018, 12:07

amz wrote:Thanks bro! Vladimir is grateful to you!
This happened on Putin's anniversary. ;) Happy birthday Vladimir!


Thanks bro! Vladimir is grateful to you! :D

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 08 Oct 2018, 12:28

Excellent test report on future of "iron curtain" in cyber space!
Unfortunately my English does not allow me to read quickly, but some moments of report shocked me!

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Re: Brexit

Postby iul » Mon, 08 Oct 2018, 12:54

The low participation wasn't unexpected, Romanian voters are generally quite lethargic, but no worries, we'll have another referendum soon and the anti-degenerate agenda will win. BTW, close to 92% voted YES :thumbup: .

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Re: Brexit

Postby amz » Mon, 08 Oct 2018, 16:11

iul wrote:The low participation wasn't unexpected, Romanian voters are generally quite lethargic, but no worries, we'll have another referendum soon and the anti-degenerate agenda will win. BTW, close to 92% voted YES :thumbup: .


the lowest poll gave a 35+ presence at least. turned out it was 20. they also lowered the number of people on electoral lists, was two days, they made it so simple that delegates for supervision and clerks backed off because of suspicion of fraud.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 08 Oct 2018, 16:30

I bet they blame Putin for this. :D
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Re: Brexit

Postby amz » Mon, 08 Oct 2018, 22:14

Vova12 wrote:I bet they blame Putin for this. :D

that's the outcome when you put your bets on one individual. he's old already anyway :lol: and he have tits in pics without photoshop

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 09 Oct 2018, 15:17

amz wrote:
Vova12 wrote:I bet they blame Putin for this. :D

that's the outcome when you put your bets on one individual. he's old already anyway :lol: and he have tits in pics without photoshop

The world reminds me of a game that someone is playing.
At the end of 90 s Russia was alredy buried. There were disputs when Russia would fall apart and there could be no question of status of a Great Power.

But it is not clear where Putin appears from and every thing changes!

I will forgive him everything including big boobs ... 8-)
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 09 Oct 2018, 16:07

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Re: Brexit

Postby Bolaroid » Thu, 11 Oct 2018, 17:43

Vova12 wrote:Bro, i remember too well what was 20 years ago before Putin ... 8-)

That it was worse before does not mean Putin and his friends are not corrupt at the expense of the Russian people. Russia should expect more, better standards.

Vova12 wrote:Yours decided that yours won Cold War, but it is not.
Yours will defeat us when yours tanks are in Moscow, and foreign soldiers will walk on our land.

The West buried us in the 90s and decided that Russia"s opinion would not matter.

Russia was destined to be robbed and dismembered.

But Russians have a different opinion on this.

This time West will have to deal not with inert Soviet internationalism, but with living Russian patriotism.

The West does not want to defeat or invade Russia. In truth, there is greater scope for co-operation with Russia than with authoritarian China for example.

Russians are not that different to Westerners at all. History maintains suspicion and hostility, and I think the Russians believe they are still a great power, a rival to America but that is a delusion that needs to be left in the past.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Bolaroid » Thu, 11 Oct 2018, 17:44

Vova12 wrote:Image :shock:

The first thing you said to me was you were sure they were Russian intelligence officers. Well you were right. :)

Did you watch the McGregor fight? A great victory for Russia or do you not claim the Avar Nuremmagomedov?

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 11 Oct 2018, 18:23

Bolaroid wrote:
Vova12 wrote:Bro, i remember too well what was 20 years ago before Putin ... 8-)

That it was worse before does not mean Putin and his friends are not corrupt at the expense of the Russian people. Russia should expect more, better standards.


After collapse of USSR pro Western traitors came to power.
The first foreign minister lives in US, Minister of Press died in the US, thieves have robbed Russia now live in the West ...

Now a new elite has come to power. In any case it is much better than elite of 90 s and Putin is better than Gorbachev&Yeltsin .
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 11 Oct 2018, 18:26

Bolaroid wrote:The West does not want to defeat or invade Russia. In truth, there is greater scope for co-operation with Russia than with authoritarian China for example.

Russians are not that different to Westerners at all. History maintains suspicion and hostility, and I think the Russians believe they are still a great power, a rival to America but that is a delusion that needs to be left in the past.

We will never obey anyone. Neither the USA, nor Europe, nor China.
I write this because i know Russia.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 11 Oct 2018, 18:34

Bolaroid wrote:The first thing you said to me was you were sure they were Russian intelligence officers. Well you were right. :)

Did you watch the McGregor fight? A great victory for Russia or do you not claim the Avar Nuremmagomedov?

Even if they are inteligence officers they did not poison Skripal"s.
There is simply no point.

This is in addition to the evidenc given before.

I like McGregor more. But he had no chance.
Nurmagomedov is also a good guy.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Sables4EVA » Fri, 12 Oct 2018, 06:11

Vova12 wrote:
Bolaroid wrote:The West does not want to defeat or invade Russia. In truth, there is greater scope for co-operation with Russia than with authoritarian China for example.

Russians are not that different to Westerners at all. History maintains suspicion and hostility, and I think the Russians believe they are still a great power, a rival to America but that is a delusion that needs to be left in the past.

We will never obey anyone. Neither the USA, nor Europe, nor China.
I write this because i know Russia.


No Western nation wants to subjugate Russia or make it follow orders, just work together in solving the worlds problems rather than contributing to them.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 12 Oct 2018, 07:12

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No Western nation wants to subjugate Russia or make it follow orders, just work together in solving the worlds problems rather than contributing to them.

I believe that you are an honest person and really think so.
But you are mistaken.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 12 Oct 2018, 07:19

The West is not united.
It is ridiculous to compare USA and Europe with it subordinat position.

Our rival is primarily the US.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 12 Oct 2018, 07:37

If they wanted they could get Russia as an aly in 90 s.
Then it was not necessary to expand NATO to our borders, kill the Serbs, close our eyes to the violation of rights Russians in Baltic and Ukraine , vithdraw from missile defense trety and much more.

They want to destroy us, after fall of communism their goals have not changed.
They do not need allies, they need vassals and slaves.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 12 Oct 2018, 08:49

All these actions took place when Russia was in decline.
The fall in GDP is two times, poverty, unemployment, war in Chechnya ... All debts of USSR were paid by Russia.
Pension $ 20 per month, average salary of $ 50-100 per month.

The collapse of army, economy ...
We almost died.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Bolaroid » Sun, 14 Oct 2018, 05:56

Vova12 wrote:If they wanted they could get Russia as an aly in 90 s.
Then it was not necessary to expand NATO to our borders, kill the Serbs, close our eyes to the violation of rights Russians in Baltic and Ukraine , vithdraw from missile defense trety and much more.

They want to destroy us, after fall of communism their goals have not changed.
They do not need allies, they need vassals and slaves.

This is just not true. It's sad that you believe this. Cold War mentality and beliefs :|

With regard to Serbia, are you referring to the early 1990s? because the US did not even want to get involved in that war for a long time.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Bolaroid » Sun, 14 Oct 2018, 06:16

Vova12 wrote:
Bolaroid wrote:The first thing you said to me was you were sure they were Russian intelligence officers. Well you were right. :)

Did you watch the McGregor fight? A great victory for Russia or do you not claim the Avar Nuremmagomedov?

Even if they are inteligence officers they did not poison Skripal"s.
There is simply no point.

We don't know this. Who knows what Skripal was doing? The spy world is a murky one.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 14 Oct 2018, 16:51

Bolaroid wrote:
Vova12 wrote:If they wanted they could get Russia as an aly in 90 s.
Then it was not necessary to expand NATO to our borders, kill the Serbs, close our eyes to the violation of rights Russians in Baltic and Ukraine , vithdraw from missile defense trety and much more.

They want to destroy us, after fall of communism their goals have not changed.
They do not need allies, they need vassals and slaves.

This is just not true. It's sad that you believe this. Cold War mentality and beliefs :|


There is nothing surprising. Russia can destroy US&Co in 30 minutes. Who would like it?
When Russia was in declin there was a chance to finish off and dismember us.
Read what goals British Empire had in Eastern War or our "allies" during Civil War in Russia.
About Germany i generally keep quiet ...
In addition without subugating Russia USwill not be able to defeat China.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 14 Oct 2018, 16:53

Bolaroid wrote:We don't know this. Who knows what Skripal was doing? The spy world is a murky one.

The evidence in this story is missing. We can only guess.
I just expresed my thoughts on case.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 14 Oct 2018, 17:00

Bolaroid wrote:
With regard to Serbia, are you referring to the early 1990s? because the US did not even want to get involved in that war for a long time.

I mean 1999 bombing under a false pretext ( Racak massacre) and without obtaining a UN mandate.

After this war, anti Western sentiments in Russia reached un precedented proportions, Russians realized that there is no international law and that world is ruled by strong right.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 14 Oct 2018, 17:15

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 14 Oct 2018, 17:34

Is opinion of a poor country important?
That was what NATO thought in 1999.
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