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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Mon, 28 Nov 2016, 20:20

Armchair Fan wrote:
Armchair Fan wrote:Spain, lots of new faces like in Rugby Europe series and due to the clash with WRWC qualifiers. They will be coached by Eusebio Quevedo:
María José Ortega
Irene Romero
Anna Puig
Raquel García
Carla Rodríguez
Maitane Salinas
María Calvo
Olivia Fresneda
Laura Lorenzo
Carmen Rodera
Ingrid Algar
Sabina Hurtado
Nerea Aguirre
Uribarri Barrutieta

In spite of having hold a training camp with this players, finally Spain will send most of the 7s players who were involved in WRWC qualifiers...
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Not even one player from the camp made it! :shock:

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 30 Nov 2016, 03:00

Vegas has been confirmed for Mar 3-5. The girls need to be added to Hong Kong however, that should be primary event in the women's calendar.

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby NaBUru38 » Fri, 02 Dec 2016, 18:41

victorsra wrote:Ireland and Brazil are now core teams.

Last season the 9 best core teams kept the status and the other 2 spots were decided in the Olympics (1 spot, Brazil) and in the Olympics Qualy (Ireland), with the core teams that failed to finish among the 9 best (Japan and Ireland) having the chance to keep the status on those tournaments.


But Japan qualified to the Olympics and Ireland didn't...

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby victorsra » Fri, 02 Dec 2016, 22:01

Brazil is starting a new cycle with a new work. I like the matches against Canada and the 2nd half against USA. But looking at the evolution of Ireland (and South Africa) I am worried about Brazilian future in Womens top flight. The reason is we have a domestic competition very poor and no XVs... it is difficult that way to compete with countries with a stronger womens rugby environment like the rest of the core teams (the only strong exception is Russia, but we know their sports culture)...
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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby NaBUru38 » Sat, 03 Dec 2016, 18:37

Dubai Women's Sevens results:

1. New Zealand
2. Australia
3. Russia
4. England
5. Fiji
6. Canada
7. France
8. South Africa
9. Ireland
10. Spain
11. United States
12. Brazil

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby Thomas » Sat, 03 Dec 2016, 18:45

victorsra wrote:Brazil is starting a new cycle with a new work. I like the matches against Canada and the 2nd half against USA. But looking at the evolution of Ireland (and South Africa) I am worried about Brazilian future in Womens top flight. The reason is we have a domestic competition very poor and no XVs... it is difficult that way to compete with countries with a stronger womens rugby environment like the rest of the core teams (the only strong exception is Russia, but we know their sports culture)...


What is Brazil's policy on a xv program or developtment program? We know Latin America is non-existent.

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 30 Jan 2017, 12:19

Four changes in Spanish squad for Sydney round. Like ahead of Dubai a pre-camp was held to pick new players, then 14 players including core ones worked together and these have been the ones finally selected:
Uribarri Barrutieta, María Casado, Iera Echebarria, Amaia Erbina, Anne Fernández de Corres, Olivia Fresneda, Berta García, Patricia García, Sabina Hurtado, Bàrbara Pla, María Ribera and Cristina Song.

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby victorsra » Thu, 02 Feb 2017, 01:48

What is Brazil's policy on a xv program or developtment program? We know Latin America is non-existent.


The Brazilian Rugby Union declared that has zero interest on Women's XV and that the focus is 100% on sevens.

However in 2016 the São Paulo Rugby Union (FPR) started an experimental XVs competition with 4 combines. The Brazilian Rugby Union (CBRu) made an intervantion forbidding contested scrums, alleging players safety. A small clash between FPR and CBRu happened, with FPR rejecting the interference, but accepeting its last round to be played without contested scrums. The players demanded the Brazilian Rugby Union to develop XVs clinics to make it happen. We are yet to know what will be done. But the 2017 São Paulo's XV competition is being planned.

Meanwhile, here you are the Brazilian team for the Sydney 7s. 9 Olympians, including the return of great Paula Ishibashi:

Luiza Campos (Charrua), Raquel Kochhann (Charrua), Beatriz “Baby” Futuro (Niterói), Amanda Araújo (Niterói), Claudia Jaqueline Teles (Niterói), Isadora Cerullo (Niterói), Bianca Santos (São José), Mariana Nicolau (São José), Haline Scatrut (Curitiba), Edna Santini (São José), Maíra Bravo (SPAC) e Paula Ishibashi (SPAC). Treinador: Reuben Samuel;
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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 04 Feb 2017, 01:15

What a night for Brazilian rugby. After ARC victory, now 7s team beats Spain and will fight with England for 9th place in Sydney.

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 04 Feb 2017, 04:00

Brazil girls just beat England!

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby victorsra » Sat, 04 Feb 2017, 12:25

What an amazing day for Brazilian rugby...

"F*ing amazing" said Luiza Campos, Brazilian captain, in the official post-match interview :lol:
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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby Canalina » Sat, 04 Feb 2017, 13:35

Best scorer of the tournament has been PNG's Joanna Lagona, despite the weakness of her team. I hope she may be invited in some australian or international team for some 7s tournaments. Maybe it has already happened. Maybe also a place in the Nomads (they are a sort of women's Barbarians, if I'm not wrong) would be deserved
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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Sun, 05 Feb 2017, 18:00

victorsra wrote:What an amazing day for Brazilian rugby...

"F*ing amazing" said Luiza Campos, Brazilian captain, in the official post-match interview :lol:


:lol: Brilliant. Definitely "F*ing amazing" :D What a tournament of upsets! Is this the first time that neither Australia nor New Zealand have been in a final?

Canalina wrote:Best scorer of the tournament has been PNG's Joanna Lagona, despite the weakness of her team. I hope she may be invited in some australian or international team for some 7s tournaments. Maybe it has already happened. Maybe also a place in the Nomads (they are a sort of women's Barbarians, if I'm not wrong) would be deserved


Glad that this accolade went to someone from a non established team 8-)

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby NaBUru38 » Sun, 05 Feb 2017, 18:08

ugrugbychiclet wrote: Is this the first time that neither Australia nor New Zealand have been in a final?


In the 2012 London Women's Sevens, Australia lost to Netherlands and Canada (New Zealand didn't compete).
In the 2013 USA Women's Sevens, New Zealand lost to England and Australia lost to United States.

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby victorsra » Fri, 10 Feb 2017, 13:34

http://www.sudamericarugby.org/2017/02/ ... s-mujeres/

Sudamerica Rugby confirmed that the Womens Qualy for the 2017-18 World Series will be in Hong Kong in april too!

Any other news about it?

This means the Womens Sevens Series will use the same system of the men's?

So, what about relegation? Just the bottom team will be relegated? And the bottom team won't have the chance to play the Qualy?

Until last season the 2 worst teams were not directly relegated. They had the chance to play the Qualy.

This looks to be new. And World Rugby said nothing about it.
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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 10 Feb 2017, 18:07

Wikipedia shows there should be two teams relegated... But it's Wikipedia.

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby victorsra » Fri, 10 Feb 2017, 19:16

I think Wikipedia shows what happened last season: the two bottom teams had to face the Qualy tournament. They were not exatly relegated.
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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby johnbirch » Thu, 23 Feb 2017, 20:44

TBH Wikipedia is pretty accurate on this at least.

WR will not confirm anything other than the qualifier will be in Hong Kong in April, and that Argentina and Colombia will be taking part. Given the timing this inevitably means that it will be automatic relegation for at least one team from this year's WSWS, which is maybe why Ireland are not putting all their eggs in the W6N basket but getting as many points as possible while England and France are slightly distracted. Best guess is that the following will be the teams taking part in HK:

(South America): Argentina, Colombia,
(North America): Jamaica
(Oceania): Papua New Guinea
(Europe): Wales, Netherlands, Belgium
(Africa): South Africa, Kenya
(Asia): China, Hong Kong, Thailand

Based on past history, WR will use the 2018 7s World Cup to decide promotion for the 2018/19 series, so qualification for the 7WC (starting this summer) will be all the more important.

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby NedRugby » Sat, 25 Feb 2017, 06:51

Based on past history, WR will use the 2018 7s World Cup to decide promotion for the 2018/19 series, so qualification for the 7WC (starting this summer) will be all the more important.

Yes, I remember Moscow, where the top 8 qualified as core, i.e. the top two in each of the four groups. NL were in a group with NZ and Canada, so not much chance there.

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 03 Mar 2017, 20:15

A few minutes ago I sent a tweet about how close to mathematical relegation Spain is. And Yunque answered saying it isn't true. According to him it's true there are two relegation spots... But that's including invited teams. WTF

That means only one team can really be relegated, but it can't sound any more ridiculous.
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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby johnbirch » Sat, 04 Mar 2017, 10:55

Armchair Fan wrote:A few minutes ago I sent a tweet about how close to mathematical relegation Spain is. And Yunque answered saying it isn't true. According to Jim it's true there's are two relegation spots... But that's including invited teams. WTF

That means only one team can really be relegated, but it's can't sound any more ridiculous.

That makes no sense. In order to find space for a promoted team at least one of the core teams must go. And ATM that is clearly either Spain or Brazil, with nothing to choose between them.

It would help an awful lot if World Rugby could just publish the details about how this is going to work, rather than having everyone (including national coaches) guessing!

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 04 Mar 2017, 11:42

Well, I didn't explain it properly since I was posting by mobile phone. Yunque said relegated teams will be those who finish 11th and 12th on World Series standings, regardless they are core or not. But since there are only 11 core teams, that should mean only one core team can be relegated.

Anyway, it's stupid.

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Sat, 04 Mar 2017, 15:39

Armchair Fan wrote:Well, I didn't explain it properly since I was posting by mobile phone. Yunque said relegated teams will be those who finish 11th and 12th on World Series standings, regardless they are core or not. But since there are only 11 core teams, that should mean only one core team can be relegated.

Anyway, it's stupid.


Should be 10, 11 and 12 who are "relegated" as 12 is almost certainly going to be an invitational team.

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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby victorsra » Sat, 04 Mar 2017, 18:39

What is bizarre is that there are more than 12 teams in the series if they are counting the non-core teams. At the momment 14 teams played the series: the 11 core teams + South Africa, Argentina and PNG.

It would make no sense looking at the series history to have 2 core teams relegated. That doesn't happen in the men's series, that has 15 core teams!

What I understand is that the 10 best teams in the final standings stay as core teams. Maybe what WR is doing is that if a non-core team by miracle finishes on 10th position or above it is awarded a place as core team.
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Re: Women's World Sevens Series 2016-2017

Postby NaBUru38 » Sat, 04 Mar 2017, 22:52

The difference is that the men's series has one automatically relegated team.
Meanwhile, until this season, the bottom teams in the women's series played the qualifier.
But now, the women's series also has a qualifier at Hong Kong, so the relegated teams can't play it.

Anyway, the World Rugby should clarify how many Hong Kong qualifier teams will become core teams, and how many teams will be relegated.

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