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Utrecht Shield (a women's Raeburn Shield)

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Utrecht Shield (a women's Raeburn Shield)

Postby grande » Sun, 06 Nov 2016, 23:24

So, I don't know how many of you are familiar with the Raeburn Shield. It's essentially a (theoretical) challenge trophy that is defended whenever the current holder plays a game.

I was curious what a women's rugby analogue would look like, so I looked through Wikipedia, and put together what I'm calling the Utrecht Shield.

Some notes:

* It's currently held by England
* The next defense is England vs France this weekend (Nov 9)
* Nine countries have held it: France, Netherlands, Great Britain, United States, England, New Zealand, Ireland, Wales, Italy
* New Zealand survived the most defenses: Twenty games between 2002 and 2009
* South Africa has never played for it
* All Six Nations countries, save Scotland, have held it at one time
* Canada, despite being a long-time big name in women's rugby, and currently ranked #2 in the world, has never held it
* It changed had three times during the most recent Six Nations (France -> Wales -> England -> France)

You can see a list of all matches here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

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Re: Utrecht Shield (a women's Raeburn Shield)

Postby sammo » Mon, 07 Nov 2016, 11:33

I love this! What was the reasoning behind your choice of first match?

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Re: Utrecht Shield (a women's Raeburn Shield)

Postby grande » Mon, 07 Nov 2016, 12:32

sammo wrote:I love this! What was the reasoning behind your choice of first match?


That was the first ever women's international game. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s ... ournaments

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Re: Utrecht Shield (a women's Raeburn Shield)

Postby sammo » Mon, 07 Nov 2016, 13:37

That makes sense! I assumed the first match would have been much earlier than this...

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Re: Utrecht Shield (a women's Raeburn Shield)

Postby NedRugby » Mon, 07 Nov 2016, 14:50

Nice work grande.

I think you've got the Belgian score reversed though. I can't imagine them beating France 66-0.

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Re: Utrecht Shield (a women's Raeburn Shield)

Postby grande » Mon, 07 Nov 2016, 17:33

NedRugby wrote:Nice work grande.

I think you've got the Belgian score reversed though. I can't imagine them beating France 66-0.


Whoops! Good eye, thanks!

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Re: Utrecht Shield (a women's Raeburn Shield)

Postby johnbirch » Mon, 07 Nov 2016, 21:23

TBH I am not sure how up to date the Wikipedia pages are now (as I haven't done it for ages). If you can see it this maybe the best lost ATM as it includes a few more recently discovered tests.

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx/Doc ... =documents

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Re: Utrecht Shield (a women's Raeburn Shield)

Postby grande » Mon, 07 Nov 2016, 21:37

johnbirch wrote:TBH I am not sure how up to date the Wikipedia pages are now (as I haven't done it for ages). If you can see it this maybe the best lost ATM as it includes a few more recently discovered tests.

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx/Doc ... =documents


It seems like someone's been maintaining it, but I'm not sure. I'd be more than willing to, but I don't seem to have access to that file you linked?

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Re: Utrecht Shield (a women's Raeburn Shield)

Postby johnbirch » Mon, 07 Nov 2016, 22:59

grande wrote:
johnbirch wrote:TBH I am not sure how up to date the Wikipedia pages are now (as I haven't done it for ages). If you can see it this maybe the best lost ATM as it includes a few more recently discovered tests.

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx/Doc ... =documents


It seems like someone's been maintaining it, but I'm not sure. I'd be more than willing to, but I don't seem to have access to that file you linked?

Okay - try this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... TM/pubhtml

I've converted it from Excel. I'm not sure all of it has comverted properly (though the main thing - the scores - have).

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Re: Utrecht Shield (a women's Raeburn Shield)

Postby grande » Tue, 08 Nov 2016, 00:01

Sweet! I can see that one! Next step: Combing through wikipedia... Time for a rye...

Edit: I'm glad to say, although I found three new tests, none of them affected the outcome at all.

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Re: Utrecht Shield (a women's Raeburn Shield)

Postby grande » Wed, 09 Nov 2016, 21:48

England holds onto the shield. Next match is Sunday vs Ireland in Dublin.

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Re: Utrecht Shield (a women's Raeburn Shield)

Postby grande » Sat, 17 Jun 2017, 12:35

I kinda forgot to keep updating this thread (but I have been updating the Google Drive, above)... After five defences by New Zealand, the Shield returns to England.

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