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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Thomas » Tue, 25 Jun 2019, 15:26

it seems the news was first released in September and no one picked up on it, have a look at this

https://www.world.rugby/sevens-series/n ... 51?lang=en

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby johnbirch » Sun, 30 Jun 2019, 17:47

Thomas wrote:it seems the news was first released in September and no one picked up on it, have a look at this

https://www.world.rugby/sevens-series/n ... 51?lang=en

Exactly. That release says nothing about the women's qualification being any different. And it should have done. In retrospect it is obvious tht the European teams (especially England) played the World Series very differently than they would have otherwise done, knowing that an extra place would be available in the repecharge if USA and Canada qualified autiomatically. At the time I certainly could not understand what they were doing!

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby NedRugby » Sun, 30 Jun 2019, 18:43

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Could England have finished in the top four if they had tried harder? They didn't even finish in the top four in Europe this weekend. Personally I just think they aren't very good at the moment, but for the life of me I can't think why. They have a huge player base and plenty of resources. Is something going wrong?

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 30 Jun 2019, 22:11

I doubt there is a single answer to it but...
- It was long speculated that if women were given the real choice between XV and 7s (both with pro status), many would take XV. Well, England with their early adopters attitude towards XV have proven it and it was poorly timed as well. We have seen key players like Scarratt jump wagons as late as last December.
- Even though it hasn't been canned, the mere rumours of RFU considering whether 7s should be axed as part of their cost-cutting measures probably deters prospects from both players and staff sides.

Now they've got a huge challenge. If they don't beat Russia in Kazan Day 1 and I haven't mistakenly calculated possible QFs their path to the Olympics will probably mean they need to beat three World Series teams on Day 2 (Ireland/Spain in QF, France in SF, Russia in F)...

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Canalina » Mon, 01 Jul 2019, 18:00

The Czech team is among the 12 European teams that will strive to advance to the Olympic tournament.

"Yes, I can confirm it," said Pavel Myšák, CEO of ČSRU.

Although the Czech team finished one position under the European Trophy Championships in the European Trophy Group, Belgium and the Netherlands could not be included in the final tournament due to non-compliance with the eligibility criteria.

The Olympic Qualification Tournament will take place on 13-14. July in Kazan, Russia. 12 teams will participate in the tournament and only the winner will go directly to the 2020 Olympics in Japan.

http://www.ragby.info/2019/06/29/cr-7-z ... ijske-hry/

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 01 Jul 2019, 18:01

LOL

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby rey200 » Mon, 01 Jul 2019, 18:02

wtf mate.
Ceterum censeo Sex Nationes esse augendas.

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby NedRugby » Mon, 01 Jul 2019, 23:16

I'd love to know what that's about.

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Canalina » Tue, 02 Jul 2019, 04:36

If this was confirmed (but at the moment no Rugby Europe neither Rugby Belgium nor Rugby Netherlands have a line about it) we would have also new Kazan pools

A: France, Poland, Italy, Moldova
B: Russia, Great Britain, Ukraine, Czech Rep.
C: Spain, Ireland, Germany, Romania

(in bold the changes)

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Thomas » Tue, 02 Jul 2019, 06:59

Do we know if it's a GB Team or an England team that is competing? big difference.

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Tue, 02 Jul 2019, 08:12

For MEN it is purely ENG -- they are nominated to earn TOKYO ticket

Should be same for LADIES

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Tue, 02 Jul 2019, 09:42

Canalina wrote:The Czech team is among the 12 European teams that will strive to advance to the Olympic tournament.

"Yes, I can confirm it," said Pavel Myšák, CEO of ČSRU.

Although the Czech team finished one position under the European Trophy Championships in the European Trophy Group, Belgium and the Netherlands could not be included in the final tournament due to non-compliance with the eligibility criteria.

The Olympic Qualification Tournament will take place on 13-14. July in Kazan, Russia. 12 teams will participate in the tournament and only the winner will go directly to the 2020 Olympics in Japan.

http://www.ragby.info/2019/06/29/cr-7-z ... ijske-hry/

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What??? What eligibility criteria? That's a huge decision.

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Canalina » Tue, 02 Jul 2019, 13:01

ugrugbychiclet wrote:What??? What eligibility criteria? That's a huge decision.

Still no news about from Rugby Europe, Rugby Nederland or Rugby Belgium. I think the officialization of the Kazan pools should arrive today or tomorrow, so we'll know.

About GB/England, it's true: the men's pools involve "England" and not "Great Britain". I hardly understand the logic beneath it

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Thomas » Tue, 02 Jul 2019, 18:52

Canalina wrote:
ugrugbychiclet wrote:What??? What eligibility criteria? That's a huge decision.

Still no news about from Rugby Europe, Rugby Nederland or Rugby Belgium. I think the officialization of the Kazan pools should arrive today or tomorrow, so we'll know.

About GB/England, it's true: the men's pools involve "England" and not "Great Britain". I hardly understand the logic beneath it


There is no logic but the Home nation that wins can then choose the best players from the other countries ( Wales and Scotland).

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Canalina » Wed, 03 Jul 2019, 12:39

www.rugbyeurope.eu/pools-announced-rugb ... tournament
Confirmed no Belgium and no Netherlands but the second substitute is not Ukraine but Sweden. Were there problems of eligibility criteria also for Ukraine or Rugby Europe thought that it was more fair to reward the fourth place in the Trophy than the last place in the GP? I don't know.

POOL A
FRANCE
POLAND
ITALY
MOLDOVA

POOL B
RUSSIA
ENGLAND
GERMANY
SWEDEN

POOL C
SPAIN
IRELAND
ROMANIA
CZECHIA

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Canalina wrote:
ugrugbychiclet wrote:What??? What eligibility criteria? That's a huge decision.

Still no news about from Rugby Europe, Rugby Nederland or Rugby Belgium. I think the officialization of the Kazan pools should arrive today or tomorrow, so we'll know.

About GB/England, it's true: the men's pools involve "England" and not "Great Britain". I hardly understand the logic beneath it


There is no logic but the Home nation that wins can then choose the best players from the other countries ( Wales and Scotland).

So they are going to pick up welsh and scottish players just at the Olympics? Or they can do that already in this tournament? In the first case I can't understand why they can't already compete as Great Britain being this tournament a qualifier to the Olympic Games (where they will have to play as GB); in the seconda case I can't understand why they are named England and not GB.
Not a big problem but I would have chosen a different way

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Thomas » Wed, 03 Jul 2019, 14:32

there is not logic but at the last Olympics the England Women's team qualified and during the sevens team trials they choose I think 1 welsh player and No Scottish.

* The men's team had 2 Scots and 2 Welsh Players and 8 English Players.. more balanced than the women's team.

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Canalina » Sat, 06 Jul 2019, 20:08

A clothes-less streaker (a nice chick, according to the eyewitnesses) invaded the field during Mexico v St.Lucia, the very first match of the North America Olympic Qualifiers

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Thomas » Sat, 06 Jul 2019, 22:23

RAN Tournament End of Day 1, something that is not clear to me, if Mexico win do they go to the Repechage? or just the spot has been allocated?

W Mexico 3 17 5 1 Saint Lucia
W Trinidad
& Tobago 6 34 0 0 Bahamas
W Jamaica 9 55 0 0 Bermuda
W Saint Lucia 3 17 5 1 Trinidad & Tobago
W Mexico 7 37 0 0 Bermuda
W Jamaica 6 36 5 1 Bahamas
W Jamaica 4 20 5 1 Saint Lucia
W Bahamas 2 10 15 3 Bermuda
W Mexico 3 15 15 3 Trinidad & Tobago

WOMEN
Pool A (WA) G Pts. P Dif. PF PA T Dif. TF TA Place
Jamaica 3 9 101 111 10 17 19 2 1
Mexico 3 7 49 69 20 9 13 4 2
Trinidad
& Tobago 3 4 22 54 32 4 10 6 3
Saint Lucia 3 3 -15 27 42 -3 5 8 4
Bermuda 3 3 -87 15 102 -15 3 18 5
Bahamas 3 0 -70 15 85 -12 3 15 6
18 26 0 291 291 0 53 53

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby johnbirch » Sat, 06 Jul 2019, 22:49

Thomas wrote:RAN Tournament End of Day 1, something that is not clear to me, if Mexico win do they go to the Repechage? or just the spot has been allocated?

WOMEN
Pool A (WA) G Pts. P Dif. PF PA T Dif. TF TA Place
Jamaica 3 9 101 111 10 17 19 2 1
Mexico 3 7 49 69 20 9 13 4 2
Trinidad
& Tobago 3 4 22 54 32 4 10 6 3
Saint Lucia 3 3 -15 27 42 -3 5 8 4
Bermuda 3 3 -87 15 102 -15 3 18 5
Bahamas 3 0 -70 15 85 -12 3 15 6
18 26 0 291 291 0 53 53
Both finalists go to repecharge whoever they are.

Also the match points seem weird, 3pts for a win, 1 for a tie, 0 for a loss??

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Thomas » Sat, 06 Jul 2019, 23:03

Yeah, I just went to the website and that is what it says:

3 points for a win
1 point for a draw
0 points for a loss

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Mon, 08 Jul 2019, 08:05

Canalina wrote:A clothes-less streaker (a nice chick, according to the eyewitnesses) invaded the field during Mexico v St.Lucia, the very first match of the North America Olympic Qualifiers

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

We get lots of non human streakers too - dogs, birds, cows ...

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Thomas » Mon, 08 Jul 2019, 08:11

Mexico win's the tournament

Mexico and Jamaican Women will compete in the repechage next year along with the men from their own country. https://rugbyamericasnorth.com/2019-ran-sevens-champions/

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Canalina » Mon, 08 Jul 2019, 16:29

ugrugbychiclet wrote:
Canalina wrote:A clothes-less streaker (a nice chick, according to the eyewitnesses) invaded the field during Mexico v St.Lucia, the very first match of the North America Olympic Qualifiers

Image


:lol: :lol: :lol:

We get lots of non human streakers too - dogs, birds, cows ...

: ) I remember the photo from some years ago with that giant marabou near two women rugby players. The bird had a pacific mood but it was anyway quite scaring for us, just used to pigeons and sparrows

Olympic euro qualifiers: an article in italian, just remembering base infos like pools, kick-off times, stream link and our selected players
www.rugby.it/news/2019/07/08/rugby-a-se ... olimpiadi/

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby Canalina » Thu, 11 Jul 2019, 08:11

Euro qualifier schedule (Kazan is CET+1, GMT +3)

https://rugby.ru/upload/iblock/f57/f57a ... f61c6f.pdf

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Re: 2020 Olympics

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 11 Jul 2019, 10:50

SIMILAR KO TIMES for COLOMIERS, esp for SUNDAY :?:
ANY (QUAZI)-OFFICIAL WEB SOURCE :?:

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