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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby Canalina » Wed, 05 Oct 2016, 13:40

Apparently the tournament in Madrid will be live on Rugby Europe Tv, as well as at least two men's test matches of this weekend. We can't complain about the effort of Rugby Europe

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby NedRugby » Thu, 06 Oct 2016, 13:31

First match is underway. 20 minutes gone and Netherlands are leading 14:0, but Switzerland have just been having a sustained period of possession, getting close to the Dutch line.

But now as I write this the Dutch have scored twice more. 26:0 (I'm watching on my phone with no Wi-Fi).

Edit: HT 31:0. Switzerland are OK when in possession, if a bit ponderous. They look defensively frail though especially when the play is broken.

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 06 Oct 2016, 15:49

It ended 55-0.

Now Spain v Belgium is on, 56-0 at HT...

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby NedRugby » Thu, 06 Oct 2016, 15:52

This could get ugly.

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby johnbirch » Thu, 06 Oct 2016, 16:01

NedRugby wrote:This could get ugly.

I think we may have to rewrite the record books when Spain play the Czech Republic on Sunday...

Belgium are, let's be honest, a good team. Seriously. They ate Scotland U20s alive last year, and did pretty well against the British Army too. Comfortable winners of the Euro Trophy last year as well. And Spain could be better - links between forwards and backs not perfect by a long way, and several chances missed/fluffed.

Clearly the conditions - hard field, great for running backs - helps and whether they would be anything like as good on a wet February afternoon in Dublin or Cumbernauld or wherever is an open question, but this remains pretty impressive
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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 06 Oct 2016, 16:35

FT 76-0.

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby NedRugby » Sat, 08 Oct 2016, 02:37

NedRugby wrote: I wonder how good Russia would be if they decided to use some of their 7s players.


It looks like we might find out. Just came across this tweet from Masha Anderson:
Suddenly on the way to Madrid as a manager. With Kudinova, Kazakova and Seredina as the players #wrugby

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby armchair_expert » Sat, 08 Oct 2016, 07:48

NedRugby wrote:
NedRugby wrote: I wonder how good Russia would be if they decided to use some of their 7s players.


It looks like we might find out. Just came across this tweet from Masha Anderson:
Suddenly on the way to Madrid as a manager. With Kudinova, Kazakova and Seredina as the players #wrugby

I counted at least 8 players with WSWS experience in a provisional training squad

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby johnbirch » Sat, 08 Oct 2016, 16:17

armchair_expert wrote:I counted at least 8 players with WSWS experience in a provisional training squad

Full, final squad (http://www.rugby.ru/new/sostav-zhenskoj-sbornoj-rossii-po-regbi-na-chempionat-evropy.html):
Ekaterina Bankerova (Krasnyj Jar)
Julija Guzeva (Krasnyj Jar)
Natal’ja Bezrukih (Krasnyj Jar)
Ekaterina Kazakova (Krasnyj Jar)
Snežanna Kul’kova (Krasnyj Jar)
Marija Pikalova (Krasnyj Jar)
Polina Teslenko (Krasnyj Jar)
Irina Trapeznikova (Krasnyj Jar)
Ekaterina Šulbaeva (Krasnyj Jar)
Evgenija Aplesneva (Enisej-STM)
Elena Vorošilova (Enisej-STM)
Aleksandra Kerženceva (Enisej-STM)
Anna Minislamova (Enisej-STM)
Evgenija Steblinskaja (Enisej-STM)
Alena Mihal’cova (Enisej-STM)
Anna Gavriljuk (RGUTIS-Podmoskov’e)
Julija Ledovskaja (RGUTIS-Podmoskov’e)
Kristina Seredina (RGUTIS-Podmoskov’e)
Anna Haŝina (RGUTIS-Podmoskov’e)
Ašura Ahmedova (sbornaja Dagestana)
Elena Šornikova (sbornaja Dagestana)
Marija Birjukova (CSP-Krylatskoe)
Larisa Vasilevskaja (CSP-Krylatskoe)
Tat’jana Berlizova (CSP №4)
Nadežda Kudinova (CSP №4)
Anastasija Kondrašova (Himki)

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby NedRugby » Sat, 08 Oct 2016, 18:49

Could give the Dutch a tough game - some real quality there. I have no idea how much 15s experience their top players have, so I'm hoping, from a Dutch point of view, that that may give us a slight advantage.

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sun, 09 Oct 2016, 11:37

Netherlands v Russia 22-17. Four tries v three, perhaps. Am I correct on saying that Russia and Switzerland are the first teams eliminated from the World Cup?

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby NedRugby » Sun, 09 Oct 2016, 11:43

Am I correct on saying that Russia and Switzerland are the first teams eliminated from the World Cup?

On the field - yes, I think so. But some teams were administratively eliminated by not being allowed to take part.

I think I called the Russia - Netherlands game about right. In a way it's good that the Dutch had a tough game today, they will need that experience to be at all competitive against Spain. I hope I'm allowed to assume Spain will qualify from their group.

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby johnbirch » Sun, 09 Oct 2016, 13:36

NedRugby wrote:
Am I correct on saying that Russia and Switzerland are the first teams eliminated from the World Cup?

On the field - yes, I think so. But some teams were administratively eliminated by not being allowed to take part.

I think I called the Russia - Netherlands game about right. In a way it's good that the Dutch had a tough game today, they will need that experience to be at all competitive against Spain. I hope I'm allowed to assume Spain will qualify from their group.

Sweden and Germany main absentees.

Of those who have turned up, lack of experience of 15s is very telling. There is talent here but with top nations like France and England no longer sending even their A or U20 teams to play in Europe its hard to see how these teams can improve. You'd think the richest unions would have some responsibility to develop the European game, but even Spain find it near impossible to get fixtures of any sort.

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 09 Oct 2016, 13:39

NedRugby wrote:I hope I'm allowed to assume Spain will qualify from their group.

97-0 to Czechia, so you weren't wrong. See you next week.

johnbirch wrote:You'd think the richest unions would have some responsibility to develop the European game, but even Spain find it near impossible to get fixtures of any sort.
Spain was supposed to prepare this tournament by playing against Wales or Italy, but in the end it only could face Euskadi (minus its Basque players)...

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby womenrugbyru » Sun, 09 Oct 2016, 15:16

johnbirch wrote:
armchair_expert wrote:I counted at least 8 players with WSWS experience in a provisional training squad

Full, final squad (http://www.rugby.ru/new/sostav-zhenskoj-sbornoj-rossii-po-regbi-na-chempionat-evropy.html):
Ekaterina Bankerova (Krasnyj Jar)
Julija Guzeva (Krasnyj Jar)
Natal’ja Bezrukih (Krasnyj Jar)
Ekaterina Kazakova (Krasnyj Jar)
Snežanna Kul’kova (Krasnyj Jar)
Marija Pikalova (Krasnyj Jar)
Polina Teslenko (Krasnyj Jar)
Irina Trapeznikova (Krasnyj Jar)
Ekaterina Šulbaeva (Krasnyj Jar)
Evgenija Aplesneva (Enisej-STM)
Elena Vorošilova (Enisej-STM)
Aleksandra Kerženceva (Enisej-STM)
Anna Minislamova (Enisej-STM)
Evgenija Steblinskaja (Enisej-STM)
Alena Mihal’cova (Enisej-STM)
Anna Gavriljuk (RGUTIS-Podmoskov’e)
Julija Ledovskaja (RGUTIS-Podmoskov’e)
Kristina Seredina (RGUTIS-Podmoskov’e)
Anna Haŝina (RGUTIS-Podmoskov’e)
Ašura Ahmedova (sbornaja Dagestana)
Elena Šornikova (sbornaja Dagestana)
Marija Birjukova (CSP-Krylatskoe)
Larisa Vasilevskaja (CSP-Krylatskoe)
Tat’jana Berlizova (CSP №4)
Nadežda Kudinova (CSP №4)
Anastasija Kondrašova (Himki)

Krasnyj Jar is necessary to write Red Yar.

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby johnbirch » Sun, 09 Oct 2016, 15:56

womenrugbyru wrote:[
Krasnyj Jar is necessary to write Red Yar.

I just ran it through something that translates the text from Cyrllic to Latin script. Attempting any actual translation beyond that is asking for trouble ("Hope Kudinova" and "Kristina Mid" for example!)

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby Canalina » Mon, 10 Oct 2016, 10:01

Just a note: if also the remaining Madrid's matches followed the previsions (Rus def Swi, Bel def Cze, Spa def Ned) we would have neither a little movement in the world rankings. All the points would remain exactly those they had at the beginning of the tournament.

PS: no, I was wrong, I forgot the last placement matches. Russia v Belgium, third place final, will surely modify the ranking points

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 12 Oct 2016, 14:22

Russia 51 - Switzerland 0
Belgium 20 - Czech Republic 5

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby victorsra » Wed, 12 Oct 2016, 16:41

http://www.scottishrugby.org/news/16/10 ... qualifiers

Scotland will face Spain or Netherlands in home and away matches in November, it was confirmed. I believe they are waiting for the Spain vs Netherlands match to confirm the days. Maybe it would be interesting to have the women's matches in double headers with the men's tests, to show women's XV to more people.
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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby johnbirch » Wed, 12 Oct 2016, 20:48

The mystery that is South African rugby.

Having pulled their team from the World Cup, they are now - it seems - reforming their programme, presumably so that whoever gets into the squad can watch from the sidelines and think about what they are missing.

Do the authorities in South Africa just love torturing their rugby players? Or are they just incompetant?

http://www.blitzbokke.com/2016/10/top-sa-womens-15s-players-gather-for-saru-training-camp/

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby CraigChalmers » Wed, 12 Oct 2016, 21:03

victorsra wrote:http://www.scottishrugby.org/news/16/10/10/scotland-women-prepare-women%E2%80%99s-rwc-qualifiers

Scotland will face Spain or Netherlands in home and away matches in November, it was confirmed. I believe they are waiting for the Spain vs Netherlands match to confirm the days. Maybe it would be interesting to have the women's matches in double headers with the men's tests, to show women's XV to more people.


Playing Wales at Cardiff Arms Park on the 29th October.

I wouldn't hold your breath on the qualifier being held as a double header with a mens test - although sure I have seen it suggested that the home tie for Scotland will be on 26th November. Thats the day Scotland are playing Georgia in Kilmarnock, which has an artificial pitch and so it might be slightly more likely. My bet though is they play at either Scotstoun or Broadwood the same day, thus preventing people from going. It's the Scottish way…

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 12 Oct 2016, 22:47

According to FER's season calendar, Scotland will play home first on November 19th. If not and if Spain qualifies, the double header could happen in Madrid that day...

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 14 Oct 2016, 11:31

Final Rugby Europe Championship game will be broadcast live on Spanish public TV. Probably a first for women's XV in the country.

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby NedRugby » Fri, 14 Oct 2016, 21:07

Cool. I'll certainly watch the streaming. Though I might go to the supermarket or something if it starts getting really bad. By that I mean Spain are winning by 25 points at half time.

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Re: 2017 Women's World Cup

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sat, 15 Oct 2016, 07:55

Netherlands squad

1 Merel Willems (AAC)
2 Petra Zwart (RUS)
3 Laurijn Draaisma (RUS)
4 Tessa Wijmans (AAC)
5 Asia Udding (RUS)
6 Inge Visser (AAC)
7 Imara van Loon (RUS)
8 Joyce van Altena (RC Hilversum)
24 Annemarije van Rossum (RC Hilversum)
10 Lorraine Laros (RC Delft)
11 Marit Bakker (RC Delft)
12 Anne Hielckert (AAC)
13 Pien Selbeck (AAC)
14 Marsha Volker (RC Amstelveen)
15 Fenna Stomps (RUS)

16 Maria-Louise Schoeman (RC Groningen)
17 Saskia Hermann (AAC)
18 Marleen Zethof (AAC)
19 Shereza Pool (RC Delft)
20 Hannah Draaisma (RUS)
21 Sanne Klem (RC Hilversum)
22 Francien van den Berg (RUS)
23 Roos van Beurden (RUS)
25 Elisabeth Geertsema (AAC)
26 Linde van der Velden (RC Castricum)

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