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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby Canalina » Wed, 04 May 2016, 03:18

Instead of sleeping I started to analyze the history of rankings. There are some odd data already in the first years

- as already said, they started to count from the 13th game on the wiki list: Wales v England on april 1987
- in that same 1987 they ignore half of the six listed matches: they don't count the two Great Britain's matches and France v Netherlands
- so they ignore all the ten matches played by Netherlands from 1982 to 1987
- in 1988 they count all the wikipedia matches, a part those played by Great Britain at the euro championship*
- the first nations appearing in the rankings (Fra, Eng, Wal, Ita, Usa, Can) start from a base of 80.00 points; instead Netherlands, Wales and Belgium (debut 1988) start from 78.00. Years later, in 1995, Portugal will start from 64.00. Hard to understand. Apparently they cut two points in the starting base for every year passed from the beginning (1987) of the rankings
- in april 22nd or 23rd 1989 Italy appears to have won against Netherlands, probably in Netherlands, but the game is not listed on wikipedia. Italy conquers 1.55 points in that week, Netherlands lose the same amount
- in 1989 Spain debuts starting by 76.00 points. Germany too
- all the 1989 games listed by wikipedia are counted in the rankings
- in 1990 New Zealand and Soviet Union start from 74.00, this confirming the theory of two points cut in the starting base every year
- in 1991 Japan starts from 72.00, debuting at the World Cup
- all the 1990, '91, '92 matches on wikipedia list are counted by World Rugby, excluded the World XV's one and included the Soviet Union's ones
- in 1993 Scotland and Ireland debut with 68.00
- Germany v Kazakhstan of oct 30 1993 is not counted, even if a new ranking is registered
- on april 1994 Russia substitutes USSR, starting by 66.00
- in the rankings published on 16 may 1994 Italy gains 1.49 points and Spain loses the same amount, they must have played each other but the match is not registered on wikipedia
- Australia debuts on sept 5th 1994 starting by 66.00
- Germany v Kazakhstan, nov 28th 1994, has not been counted
- Wales v Ireland on 19 march 1995 has not been counted
- Portugal debuts in 1995 with 64.00 pts. It's the 18th nation in the rankings
- I stopped at the end of 1995 for the moment

* there's a fascinating amateur full video of Italy v Netherlands and a synthesis of the final France v G.Britain on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjVRiT6BYgA
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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby johnbirch » Wed, 04 May 2016, 20:26

Canalina wrote:16 may 1994 Italy gains 1.49 points and Spain loses the same amount, they must have played each other but the match is not registered on wikipedia

If you look deeper you find: 16th May 1994 - Spain 0-3 Italy. It does not say this is a women's game, but what is clear it must be as Italy's men play Romania in the FIRA on the same day. And this is indeed a "new" result. No venue is given.

Canalina wrote:- in april 22nd or 23rd 1989 Italy appears to have won against Netherlands, probably in Netherlands, but the game is not listed on wikipedia. Italy conquers 1.55 points in that week, Netherlands lose the same amount

Also on 20 April we find Netherlands 14-26 Italy. Again it does not say its a women's game, again no other information. Again this would be a "new" game.

Canalina wrote:* there's a fascinating amateur full video of Italy v Netherlands and a synthesis of the final France v G.Britain on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjVRiT6BYgA

You missed this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV1R1yVSwt8. Its the last 7 mins of France v Gt Britain... but then gives you 20 minutes of amazing post match celebrations by the French, first at the match, and later at some hotel somewhere! Wow - could they celebrate. And whatever happened to the magnificent trophy?

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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby johnbirch » Wed, 04 May 2016, 20:32

And in broader terms, Canalina, yes - there is any amount of weird stuff in these rankings. A lot of games are not included for no good reason (even entire countries - like Austria, whose tests are missing without explanation as they were IRB members at the time).

I've not managed to get any real explanation out of WR about this. But for now, for all its faults, it exists and I think we have to go along with it.

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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby Canalina » Wed, 04 May 2016, 22:45

At least we learnt why the nations entered in the rankings with different points. I made a list. The "countdown" seems have stopped at 30.00

1987: France, England, Wales, Italy, Usa, Canada 80.00
1988: Netherlands, Sweden, Belgium 78.00
1989: Spain, Germany 76.00
1990: New Zealand, Soviet Union 74.00
1991: Japan 72.00
1992: -
1993: Scotland, Ireland 68.00
1994: Russia (substitutes USSR), Australia 66.00
1995: Portugal 64.00
1996: -
1997: -
1998: Hong Kong, Kazakhstan 58.00
1999: -
2000: Samoa 54.00
2001: -
2002: -
2003: Denmark, Norway, Jamaica, T&Tobago 48.00
2004: South Africa, Cayman 46.00
2005: Thailand, Bosnia Erzegovina 44.00
2006: China, Uganda, Fiji, Guyana, Singapore, Tonga, Kenya 42.00
2007: Serbia, Luxembourg, Finland, Romania 40.00
2008: Uzbekistan, Brazil 38.00
2009: Barbados, SVGrenadines 36.00
2010: Bahamas 34.00
2011: Switzerland 32.00
2012: Philippines 30.00
2013: Czech Republic 30.00
2014: -
2015: -
2016: -

And the last suggestions from the rankings history and from a yearbook I have at home
- the four matches played by Kazakhstan before the 1998 World Cup (one against Germany, three possibly against Russia) have not been counted
- on may, 4, 1998, Kazakhstan debuts in the ranking with 58.00. Two weeks later Kazakhstan is already ninth with 73.63 after having defeated Sweden, Wales and twice Ireland at the World Cup!
- according to italian federation's 2004 yearbook, France A and Italy played three matches between 2001 and 2003 not recorded by wikipedia list:
04/03/01 Italy-France A 15-12 in Rome
03/03/02 France A-Italy 23-12 in Moulin
22/03/03 Italy-France A 3-7 in Rome (there are line ups and scorers for this last match, italian points came from today still playing V.Schiavon)
- according to some statistics in the same book, Italy and Netherlands played two games not registered by wikipedia or rugbydata, in unknown dates before 2000. Apparently they each won one match, with an aggregate of 26-20 to Italy. If the one won by Italy is that 14-26 mentioned by John, Netherlands must have won the other 6-0
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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby johnbirch » Fri, 06 May 2016, 19:30

Canalina wrote:04/03/01 Italy-France A 15-12 in Rome
03/03/02 France A-Italy 23-12 in Moulin
22/03/03 Italy-France A 3-7 in Rome (there are line ups and scorers for this last match, italian points came from today still playing V.Schiavon)
- according to some statistics in the same book, Italy and Netherlands played two games not registered by wikipedia or rugbydata, in unknown dates before 2000. Apparently they each won one match, with an aggregate of 26-20 to Italy. If the one won by Italy is that 14-26 mentioned by John, Netherlands must have won the other 6-0

If you are going to include A team games then... good luck! That is a whole new nightmare of vague hints and possibilities.

Canalina wrote:- the four matches played by Kazakhstan before the 1998 World Cup (one against Germany, three possibly against Russia) have not been counted

There are there - but with the wrong date! Well, actually, we don't know the dates but the Rankings have the games v Russia all on 1.1.1997

And what game v Germany? The four I have were in 1993, 94, 96 and 99

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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby Canalina » Fri, 06 May 2016, 22:36

No, no, I don't want to suggest to count the A games for the rankings; just, I open that 2004 yearbook to find news about the italian "ghost" matches against Spain and Netherlands and I noted that the book reported those three matches Italy v France A, not mentioned in the "other matches" section of list on wikipedia. Just that.

About Kazakhstan, they were admitted in the ranking only with the 1998 World Cup. All their several previous games were not counted, I don't know why
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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby mcruic » Fri, 06 May 2016, 22:36

johnbirch wrote:If you look deeper you find: 16th May 1994 - Spain 0-3 Italy. It does not say this is a women's game, but what is clear it must be as Italy's men play Romania in the FIRA on the same day. And this is indeed a "new" result. No venue is given.


The Italy team was supposed to play 2 matches in Spain (11 May 1994 v a Catalonia Select in Barcelona, and 14 May v Spain in Madrid).

The match v Netherlands was played on 13th March 1993 in Rho, Italy (Italy 8-5 Netherlands). So, 26-20 to Italy overall makes no sense (that would mean Italy won the other match also 18-15).
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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby Canalina » Fri, 06 May 2016, 23:28

mcruic wrote:
johnbirch wrote:If you look deeper you find: 16th May 1994 - Spain 0-3 Italy. It does not say this is a women's game, but what is clear it must be as Italy's men play Romania in the FIRA on the same day. And this is indeed a "new" result. No venue is given.

The Italy team was supposed to play 2 matches in Spain (11 May 1994 v a Catalonia Select in Barcelona, and 14 May v Spain in Madrid).

Thanks for that

mcruic wrote:The match v Netherlands was played on 13th March 1993 in Rho, Italy (Italy 8-5 Netherlands). So, 26-20 to Italy overall makes no sense (that would mean Italy won the other match also 18-15).

I think that an other match could have been played, a match not present in wikipedia list.
My italian rugby yearbook, written in the middle of 2003, reports that in that moment Italy and Netherlands have played each other 8 times. Italy won five, Netherlands won three, and the points' total was 148-104 to Italy.
In the book there's also a list of the games played by Italy from the beginning of 2000 to may 2003, and Italy never played with Netherlands in those years.
According to wikipedia, we have these results before 2000:
Ita-Ned 6-10 (1988)
Ita-Ned 8-5 (1993)
Ita-Ned 23-19 (1995)
Ita-Ned 11-6 (1996)
Ita-Ned 24-26 (1997)
Ita-Ned 50-18 (1999)
and now we can add
Ita-Ned 26-14 (april, 20th, 1989)

Total: 5 italian victories, 2 netherlander victories
Total points: 148-98

So we lack one netherlander victory and six netherlander points, id est a 6-0 win for them

Hypothesis: in 1991 World Cup, Italy and Netherlands both lost in plate semifinals. Maybe they played a consolation final for the 7th place, ended 6-0 for Netherlands? Just a vague guess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Wome ... _World_Cup
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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby johnbirch » Sat, 07 May 2016, 10:11

Canalina wrote:Hypothesis: in 1991 World Cup, Italy and Netherlands both lost in plate semifinals. Maybe they played a consolation final for the 7th place, ended 6-0 for Netherlands? Just a vague guess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Wome ... _World_Cup

Unlikely as they'd already played about four games in five days... However there were a whole raft of largely unrecorded warm-up matches before the tournament - that could be a possible.

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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby mcruic » Sat, 07 May 2016, 10:40

Canalina wrote:If they really want to create a women's ranking, they should consider just the results of the last ten years; or last five years. Too difficult to collect all the scores of the history and discover if those games were filling all the international criteria.
And if, six months after you have inaugurated a women's ranking, you discover an other old match? Will you correct all the weekly rankings already published? Better to choice a simpler and safer way and to use just the scores of the years about which you are sure to have all the data. Also because the scores of twelve years ago can't say nothing about today's strength of a nation, and it would be meaningless to have in the rankings nations not playing since many years ago.


The more data you include, the better and more accurate the rankings will be. So, more matches is always better. With a proper rankings system, the older matches will be filtered out over time without the need for artificial "cut-off" points (the elo system is a good example of how this is done naturally).

However, as you say, the strength of the teams is also important - if matches are included where B or C teams have played, this will give an inaccurate representation of the strength of that team (and their opponent).
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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby mcruic » Sat, 07 May 2016, 10:42

Canalina wrote:
I think that an other match could have been played, a match not present in wikipedia list.
My italian rugby yearbook, written in the middle of 2003, reports that in that moment Italy and Netherlands have played each other 8 times. Italy won five, Netherlands won three, and the points' total was 148-104 to Italy.


A bit of digging has uncovered that there was a match in Hilversum in 1989 (Netherlands v Italy). This could be the match you were missing.

Netherlands men's team had 2 FIRA matches that year in Hilversum (5 April v Portugal, 16 April v West Germany), so it's possible the match could have been a curtain-raiser for one of these 2 games.
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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby johnbirch » Sat, 07 May 2016, 10:45

Leaving the Wikipedia aside, this is my current list > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PlxqxJd_n_cA_BW09H-doVz3uTd_rxcCKS1EYCThL4g/edit?usp=sharing

Anyone spot anything obviously missing?

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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby mcruic » Sat, 07 May 2016, 18:30

Torneo Iberoamericano in Bogotá

17 July 2010: Colombia 27-5 Venezuela

These were the only 2 national teams among some club teams, and this was the final.

The men's tournament was XVs, not sure about the women's. Would be first (and only) XVs matches by both these teams.
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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby johnbirch » Sat, 07 May 2016, 18:55

mcruic wrote:Torneo Iberoamericano in Bogotá

17 July 2010: Colombia 27-5 Venezuela

These were the only 2 national teams among some club teams, and this was the final.

The men's tournament was XVs, not sure about the women's. Would be first (and only) XVs matches by both these teams.

While an "international", from what you say I think its test status might be questionable. Do we know if either Colombia or Venezuela considered it a test?

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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby Canalina » Sun, 08 May 2016, 13:58

2010 is near, I think to remember that that Trofeo Iberoamericano was -after some debate in the forum- not counted as a full international, but I don't remember why
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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby Canalina » Sun, 08 May 2016, 14:07

mcruic wrote:A bit of digging has uncovered that there was a match in Hilversum in 1989 (Netherlands v Italy). This could be the match you were missing.
Netherlands men's team had 2 FIRA matches that year in Hilversum (5 April v Portugal, 16 April v West Germany), so it's possible the match could have been a curtain-raiser for one of these 2 games.


That match is probably the one found by John in the message here below. Both the supposed matches are in 1989 in Netherlands, it's unlikely they played two different games; more probably it's one only game. If so, it remains a possible missing game, a 6-0 win for Netherlands against Italy before 2000, lost out there

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Canalina wrote: - in april 22nd or 23rd 1989 Italy appears to have won against Netherlands, probably in Netherlands, but the game is not listed on wikipedia. Italy conquers 1.55 points in that week, Netherlands lose the same amount

Also on 20 April we find Netherlands 14-26 Italy. Again it does not say its a women's game, again no other information. Again this would be a "new" game.
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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby Canalina » Sun, 08 May 2016, 14:11

johnbirch wrote:Leaving the Wikipedia aside, this is my current list > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PlxqxJd_n_cA_BW09H-doVz3uTd_rxcCKS1EYCThL4g/edit?usp=sharing

Anyone spot anything obviously missing?

With the new entries the historical game number 1000 has become Uganda v Kenya in 2013. Ugrugbychiclet will be happy of that

But other old games could pop up in the next years switching that record
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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby johnbirch » Sun, 08 May 2016, 15:03

Especially if this missing Netherlands v Italy is found.

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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby sjbret » Mon, 09 May 2016, 00:28

mcruic wrote:Torneo Iberoamericano in Bogotá
17 July 2010: Colombia 27-5 Venezuela
These were the only 2 national teams among some club teams, and this was the final.
The men's tournament was XVs, not sure about the women's. Would be first (and only) XVs matches by both these teams.

It was XV for women too.
In semi-finals, Colombia beat 28-0 Las Rozas (a Spanish company's team) and Venezuela 20-5 a Colombian regional selection.
The years before (2009 and 2008), Venezuela's national team was present but not Colombia's, with selections only :
- 2009 (Venezuela) : victory 72-0 Vs Santander and defeat 17-22 Vs Antioquia in the final
- 2008 (Venezuela) : victory 16-13 Vs Antioquia and victory 13-3 Vs Bogota in the final
In 2007, Venezuela wasn't there (Las Rozas wan the tournament against Antioquia).
In 2011, the tournament was postponed and disappeared...

Many years before, it seems that some games were played annualy between Colombia & Venezuela and that former Spanish Number 8 Ana Maria Aigneren (with her Colombian origin) had played some.

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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby Canalina » Mon, 07 Nov 2016, 16:48

Papua Guinea debuted in the world rankings after the game lost in Fiji http://www.worldrugby.org/rankings/wru

Apparently they started from 40.00, while the penultimate nation admitted, Philippines, started from 30.00
They just use random rules :geek: :?
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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby johnbirch » Mon, 07 Nov 2016, 21:36

Canalina wrote:Papua Guinea debuted in the world rankings after the game lost in Fiji http://www.worldrugby.org/rankings/wru

Apparently they started from 40.00, while the penultimate nation admitted, Philippines, started from 30.00
They just use random rules :geek: :?

They SHOULD all start at 40. Phillipines lost two tests on their debut, and by a wider magins, so probably lost more points.

But yes - the rankings make no real sense until a team has played maybe half-a-dozen tests.

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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby Canalina » Sat, 29 Jul 2017, 04:50

Continental rankings according to the world ranking. Africa doubled its platoon this week: from three to six

Europe
1 ENGLAND (1)
2 FRANCE (4)
3 IRELAND (5)
4 SPAIN (8)
5 ITALY (9)
6 WALES (10)
7 SCOTLAND (12)
8 NETHERLANDS (15)
9 PORTUGAL (16)
10 SWEDEN (18)
11 RUSSIA (19)
12 GERMANY (20)
13 BELGIUM (21)
14 DENMARK (25)
15 ROMANIA (28)
16 NORWAY (29)
17 BOSNIA & HERZEGOVINA (32)
18 SWITZERLAND (37)
19 LUXEMBOURG (44)
20 FINLAND (45)
21 SERBIA (47)
22 CZECH REPUBLIC (52)

Oceania
1 NEW ZEALAND (22)
2 AUSTRALIA (6)
3 SAMOA (11)
4 FIJI (30)
5 TONGA (39)
6 PAPUA NEW GUINEA (42)

North America
1 CANADA (3)
2 USA (7)
3 TRINIDAD & TOBAGO (22)
4 JAMAICA (26)
5 GUYANA (27)
6 CAYMAN ISLANDS (36)
7 BARBADOS (48)
8 ST.VINCENT & THE GRENADINES (49)
9 BAHAMAS (50)

Africa
1 SOUTH AFRICA (13)
2 KENYA (31)
3 ZIMBABWE (38)
4 NAMIBIA (40)
5 UGANDA (41)
6 BOTSWANA (43)

Asia
1 JAPAN (14)
2 KAZAKHSTAN (17)
3 HONG KONG (23)
4 CHINA (24)
5 THAILAND (33)
6 SINGAPORE (34)
7 UZBEKISTAN (35)
8 PHILIPPINES (51)

South America
1 BRAZIL (46)

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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby Canalina » Mon, 14 Aug 2017, 14:52

Variations after the first week of WRWC

England, New Zealand, Canada, Wales, Japan, Hong Kong: no points variation

Usa + 3.53
France + 1.38
Ireland + 0.78
Italy - 1.23
Australia - 2.15
Spain - 2.30

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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby johnbirch » Fri, 18 Aug 2017, 21:20

The spreadsheet of Women's test results that Scrumqueens uses can now be accessed here: https://onedrive.live.com/embed?cid=E57665179409953F&resid=E57665179409953F%21101326&authkey=AOoedwu3KA6YvP4&em=2&AllowTyping=True&ActiveCell=%27Tests%27!A2&wdDownloadButton=True

Omissions or corrections appreciated - we've already been told we have Norway's first test missing... but they cannot find the date ATM. Anyone here from Norway?

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Re: OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

Postby Canalina » Sat, 19 Aug 2017, 10:54

One very minor statistic: all the margins of victory from 0 (draw) to 85 happened at least once on the women's tests history. No one team never won with a margin of 86. Other missing margins, comprised into one hundred: 91, 93, 95, 96.
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