OFFICIAL Women's Rugby Rankings

[RugbyLiebe Profile]

22 years for Portugal. Samoa played two games in the Pacific championship, being beaten by Fiji in the final. Papua New Guinea and Tonga played too.

Great, so we can add Tonga to the adjusted world rankings. Any other teams?

Edit: I just read that Finland also played a test against Switzerland. Great!

[Canalina Profile]

First week ever out of the last position for the Czech Republic! After 169 weeks, if I counted correctly. They always closed the ranking since the publication of the first official women's ranking.
Now the last spot tally says

Czech Republic 169 weeks
Philippines 1 week

[Armchair Fan Profile]

It makes a great story, but they were only there because World Rugby is ashamed of leaving there only the countries with real XV activity...

[rey200 Profile]

hmm I have mixed feelings. WR screwed it up in the first place by giving them less points than anyone else.

[RugbyLiebe Profile]

This ranking is a total joke and does women's rugby no good. They need to be relaunched and the most important part there need to be point reductions for inactivity implemented.

[Raven Profile]

22 years for Portugal. Samoa played two games in the Pacific championship, being beaten by Fiji in the final. Papua New Guinea and Tonga played too.

Great, so we can add Tonga to the adjusted world rankings. Any other teams?

Edit: I just read that Finland also played a test against Switzerland. Great!

On Finland...

The women’s 15’s national team re-started its operations in the summer of 2017 after a three-year break. After the selection camp held in July 2017, approximately 50 players were selected to the national team training group. The reformed national team had its first match in October 2017 in Eerikkilä, when they played a friendly against Sweden’s national team.

The women’s 15’s national team is competing in the Rugby Europe XV Women Trophy series. The first official home game for the Finnish ladies was held in October 2018, when Switzerland travelled to Helsinki. In preparation of the main event of 2018, the 15’s national team played warm-up matches against Turku Swans in Finland and against the Spanish Majadahonda Rugby Club in Madrid. The Trophy series continues in spring 2019 by an away game with Czech Republic.

Training camps are held at the Eerikkilä Sport & Outdoor Resort, and training days across Finland when needed.

We are also interested in arranging friendly matches against other national teams or international teams to help develop our national team.

[Canalina Profile]

After this last weekend Singapore loses two points and a half and five positions, while Philippines let again the last position to Czech Republic.
China and Kenya conquer some decimals but no positions

https://www.world.rugby/rankings/wru

[Canalina Profile]

New Zealand on the lead by just 0.07 after the loss at the Super Series vs France!

https://www.world.rugby/rankings/wru

1 NEW ZEALAND 92.85
2 ENGLAND 92.78
3 CANADA 86.96
4 FRANCE 86.50
5 USA 79.94

[Canalina Profile]

Zambia in the ranking

https://www.world.rugby/rankings/wru

[Canalina Profile]

Nations date of ranking and their entry points. The tail of the rankings is spoiled by the too low entry points adopted in the years 2008-2013

1987: France, England, Wales, Italy, Usa, Canada 80.00
1988: Netherlands, Sweden, Belgium 78.00
1989: Spain, Germany 76.00
1990: New Zealand, Soviet Union 74.00
1991: Japan 72.00
1992: -
1993: Scotland, Ireland 68.00
1994: Russia (substitutes USSR), Australia 66.00
1995: Portugal 64.00
1996: -
1997: -
1998: Hong Kong, Kazakhstan 58.00
1999: -
2000: Samoa 54.00
2001: -
2002: -
2003: Denmark, Norway, Jamaica, T&Tobago 48.00
2004: South Africa, Cayman 46.00
2005: Thailand, Bosnia Erzegovina 44.00
2006: China, Uganda, Fiji, Guyana, Singapore, Tonga, Kenya 42.00
2007: Serbia, Luxembourg, Finland, Romania 40.00
2008: Uzbekistan, Brazil 38.00
2009: Barbados, SVGrenadines 36.00
2010: Bahamas 34.00
2011: Switzerland 32.00
2012: Philippines 30.00
2013: Czech Republic 30.00
2014: -
2015: -
2016: Papua New Guinea 40.00
2017: Zimbabwe, Namibia, Botswana 40.00
2018: India 40.00
2019: Zambia, Madagascar, Colombia 40.00

[Canalina Profile]

I still think that they should adopt a rule "one point cut every year you don't play". It's a temperate rule, just one point per year, but year after year it woould give the rankings a more appropriate aspect. Portugal didn't play since 1995, now they would have 40 points instead of 64.
Maybe there should be also an hibernation rule: you don't play for ten years in a row, you keep your points but you disappear from the rankings until your next match.
Probably World Rugby just don't care about these minor problems.
Probably the fans also don't care, just us

[NedRugby Profile]

Probably World Rugby just don't care about these minor problems.
Probably the fans also don't care, just us

I think you got to the heart of the matter. We are a strange bunch here. Well I'm not, but the rest of you are.

[Canalina Profile]

Just to confute your affirmation I publish a statistic I've just calculated, about the national teams that still haven't played a test match in 2019.

11 SOUTH AFRICA **
15 PORTUGAL
17 KAZAKHSTAN **
22 TRINIDAD & TOBAGO ***
23 BELGIUM
25 DENMARK
27 JAMAICA ***
29 GUYANA
30 ROMANIA
31 NORWAY
32 BOSNIA & HERZEGOVINA
33 THAILAND
34 UZBEKISTAN
36 TONGA
37 CAYMAN ISLANDS
39 NAMIBIA
40 SWITZERLAND *
42 BOTSWANA
43 LUXEMBOURG
45 BRAZIL **
46 PAPUA NEW GUINEA ****
47 SERBIA
50 BARBADOS ***
51 ST.VINCENT & GRENADINES
52 BAHAMAS

nr MADAGASCAR **
nr COLOMBIA **
nr Usa South, Mexico, St.Lucia, Dominican Rep., Curacao ***

* played a friendly match (versus France Gendarmerie)
** have a fixed test match before the end of the year
*** playing the North America Championship with 10s format
**** PNG hope to take part again in the Oceania Cup in november

Data taken from https://www.scrumqueens.com/fixtures-an ... ?year=2019

[Blurandski Profile]

I still think that they should adopt a rule "one point cut every year you don't play". It's a temperate rule, just one point per year, but year after year it woould give the rankings a more appropriate aspect. Portugal didn't play since 1995, now they would have 40 points instead of 64.
Maybe there should be also an hibernation rule: you don't play for ten years in a row, you keep your points but you disappear from the rankings until your next match.
Probably World Rugby just don't care about these minor problems.
Probably the fans also don't care, just us

Ideally they'd redistribute that point proportionately, so that the mean number of points remains the same.

[Canalina Profile]

Madagascar in the ranking

https://www.world.rugby/rankings/wru

[RugbyLiebe Profile]

Ideally they'd redistribute that point proportionately, so that the mean number of points remains the same.

What for? I mean the numbers don't stay the same now with Madagascar being added. This system is not a closed system? I am actually curious, if it would be possible to get more than 100 points. I think a lot of things would come together to get something like this.
World Rugby is no help, as it puts out a 100% British way to describe this: "Countries will normally have a rating between 0 and 100."

[Canalina Profile]

And Colombia is in the rankings... It has been a good year, with three new entries: Zambia, Madagascar and Colombia

https://www.world.rugby/rankings/wru

Some posts above there's the history of the entries in the ranking: eight new nations in the last four years, no one of them from Europe

[victorsra Profile Website]

Question: if World Rugby recognized 2003 Colombia-Venezuela match (as they wrote about it in the upcoming of Brazil-Colombia match), they should have included Venezuela in the ranking.... Brazil was already in the ranking because of the sole 2008 match against the Netherlands. Or after the launch of the Ranking (was it in 2015?) they can't update it with past matches (and therefore countries)?

[johnbirch Profile]

Question: if World Rugby recognized 2003 Colombia-Venezuela match (as they wrote about it in the upcoming of Brazil-Colombia match), they should have included Venezuela in the ranking.... Brazil was already in the ranking because of the sole 2008 match against the Netherlands. Or after the launch of the Ranking (was it in 2015?) they can't update it with past matches (and therefore countries)?

They have not added any retrospectiively discovered games since they launched, or corrected any errors (like the sudden inclusion of Namibia last year despite their not playing a game)

[Thomas Profile]

I think Venezuela's record has been largely forgotten as with the Trinidad v Venezuela match. I would like to see more done. I am finding that I may get blood out of a stone than details of Venezuela's match history.

[victorsra Profile Website]

Question: if World Rugby recognized 2003 Colombia-Venezuela match (as they wrote about it in the upcoming of Brazil-Colombia match), they should have included Venezuela in the ranking.... Brazil was already in the ranking because of the sole 2008 match against the Netherlands. Or after the launch of the Ranking (was it in 2015?) they can't update it with past matches (and therefore countries)?

They have not added any retrospectiively discovered games since they launched, or corrected any errors (like the sudden inclusion of Namibia last year despite their not playing a game)

Very sad this sort of care about the women's ranking.

[Canalina Profile]

Ranked nations which haven't played a test match in 2019 ("7s" on brackets means that they have at least fielded a 7s national team, but I could have missed some of these)

14 PORTUGAL (7s)
22 TRINIDAD & TOBAGO (7s, 10s)
23 BELGIUM (7s)
27 DENMARK (7s)
28 JAMAICA (7s, 10s)
29 GUYANA
30 ROMANIA (7s)
31 NORWAY (7s)
32 BOSNIA & HERZEGOVINA
33 THAILAND (7s)
35 UZBEKISTAN
37 CAYMAN
40 NAMIBIA
41 BOTSWANA (7s)
45 LUXEMBOURG (7s)
48 SERBIA
52 BARBADOS (10s)
54 ST.VINCENT & GRENADINES
55 BAHAMAS (7s)

[mcruic Profile]

Just a small note, I've put my rankings back online again after 7 years away!

54 teams on the women's ranking. I had to include U-20 team results to get the RAN teams ranked, as they haven't actually played full international matches against any ranked teams.

"inactive" means that a team has played matches, but has played against unranked teams only, or has played against teams who have had a long break (this is why Colombia and Brazil are not ranked). I have a "reset" if a team has not played for a 1/3 of the entire dataset of matches. Brazil did not play since they played Netherlands, so their ranking was reset. They then played an unranked team (Colombia).

Without the "reset", Colombia would be 11th, Venezuela 17th, and Brazil 19th based on their limited results so far. This would suggest (admittedly based on very little data) that Colombia has a pretty good chance of making it through to the World Cup.

[johnbirch Profile]

Without the "reset", Colombia would be 11th, Venezuela 17th, and Brazil 19th based on their limited results so far. This would suggest (admittedly based on very little data) that Colombia has a pretty good chance of making it through to the World Cup.

They have a reasonable chance of getting to the repecharge (they'll have to get past Kenya to do that), but then they'll be up against the runners-up from the Asian, Oceania and European qualifiers for the 12th spot. That will be tough.

[Canalina Profile]

World Rugby started to clean a bit the ranking: a lot of national teams, included Portugal, lost 6 points in the passage from 2019 to 2020

https://www.world.rugby/rankings/wru

The penalized nations are
Portugal
Trinidad&Tobago
Denmark
Jamaica
Guyana
Romania
Norway
Thailand
Uzbekistan
Cayman
Namibia
Botswana
Luxembourg
Serbia
Barbados
St.Vincent&G
Bahamas