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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 25 May 2019, 15:42

Liga Heineken 2018-19 - Final - Live Streaming
18:00 CEST - SilverStorm El Salvador v VRAC Quesos Entrepinares
http://www.rtve.es/deportes/mas-tdp/dir ... =accesible

I fear it will be geoblocked, if that is the case I will upload the game ASAP.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 25 May 2019, 22:36

Way more entertaining than anybody would have expected from a Valladolid derby...

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Thomas » Sun, 26 May 2019, 10:37

Just see the first Half, until the Yellow VRAC was in the ascendancy. I thought EL Salvador disallowed try was harsh.

2nd half wasn't too bad, I thought VRAC always had control, EL Salvador always on the back foot unable to get their game plan going.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Canalina » Mon, 27 May 2019, 19:16

How many spectators?

They were 4,000 in Italy for the championship's final

It surprises me a bit that no Ferugby nor Romanian Superliga integrated their articles about the respective finals with the "classic" data table (lines-up, scorers, referees, spectators etc etc). In Italy it's the base of every report about team sports

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Tobar » Mon, 27 May 2019, 19:30

Canalina wrote:How many spectators?

They were 4,000 in Italy for the championship's final

It surprises me a bit that no Ferugby nor Romanian Superliga integrated their articles about the respective finals with the "classic" data table (lines-up, scorers, referees, spectators etc etc). In Italy it's the base of every report about team sports


It was sold out and Wikipedia says 5000 seats.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 27 May 2019, 19:46

There is no way to know how many were in Pepe Rojo, although I can assure you there aren't 5,000 seats. Maybe 5,000 people, but not all seated for sure. I only know it was uncomfortable enough for Valladolid mayor to admit today that they will have to make improvements to the stadium in the near future.

BTW, Valladolid mayor will most probably stay in office for the next four years.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby qwerty » Mon, 27 May 2019, 19:47

The stands look way too small to have 5000 seats.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Canalina » Mon, 27 May 2019, 20:17

Thanks. Anyway, a good glance of full stands.

Estimation of the spectators is always a volatile science, especially in minor rugby. I've just read a report about a women match: the article said there were 750 spectators, the match sheet said 200 spectators :)

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 30 May 2019, 18:51

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Brazil vs Spain will be at Estadio José Liberatti, in Osasco, Greater São Paulo. It has capacity for 12k people. Kickoff 7:30 local time

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby qwerty » Thu, 30 May 2019, 18:53

Are they not playing in Pacaembu anymore?

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 30 May 2019, 19:29

No...

Pacaembu is in a tricky momment,with a privatization process.
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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Tobar » Thu, 30 May 2019, 20:31

victorsra wrote:No...

Pacaembu is in a tricky momment,with a privatization process.


This field is a good size but only got a few fans out there, unfortunately. Is it a bad location?

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby qwerty » Thu, 30 May 2019, 20:33

It seems to be far from the downtown, and from where I imagine most potential spectators would live.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 02 Jun 2019, 09:03

I leave the live streaming for last chance Liga Heineken playoff between La Vila and Bathco. The latter won 30-14 last weekend, so home team has a steep climb in front of them to stay in the top tier. Kick-off at 12:00 CEST:

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby victorsra » Sun, 02 Jun 2019, 12:42

Tobar wrote:
victorsra wrote:No...

Pacaembu is in a tricky momment,with a privatization process.


This field is a good size but only got a few fans out there, unfortunately. Is it a bad location?


Not good. Industrial area between highways.
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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Raven » Mon, 03 Jun 2019, 13:21

victorsra wrote:
Tobar wrote:
victorsra wrote:No...

Pacaembu is in a tricky momment,with a privatization process.


This field is a good size but only got a few fans out there, unfortunately. Is it a bad location?


Not good. Industrial area between highways.

With all due respect, would a test match between Brazil and Spain attract a high volume of people to be worth opening the Pacaembu? 12.000k is a great number of seats and less empty seats it´s also achievable.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 04 Jun 2019, 20:34

David Melé told El Tercer Tiempo podcast that he's finally retiring to become a coach after July 1.

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Bathco earned promotion onto Liga Heineken as La Vila couldn't overturn the result of the first game in Santander. So we will have two new teams in the top tier next season.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Tobar » Thu, 06 Jun 2019, 20:39

Armchair Fan wrote:David Melé told El Tercer Tiempo podcast that he's finally retiring to become a coach after July 1.

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Bathco earned promotion onto Liga Heineken as La Vila couldn't overturn the result of the first game in Santander. So we will have two new teams in the top tier next season.


That’s odd, he literally just signed a contract with Austin for 2020. Must’ve changed his mind or gotten injured.

Edit: to clarify, do you mean professionally or from international rugby?

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 06 Jun 2019, 20:57

Raven wrote:
victorsra wrote:
Tobar wrote:
victorsra wrote:No...

Pacaembu is in a tricky momment,with a privatization process.


This field is a good size but only got a few fans out there, unfortunately. Is it a bad location?


Not good. Industrial area between highways.

With all due respect, would a test match between Brazil and Spain attract a high volume of people to be worth opening the Pacaembu? 12.000k is a great number of seats and less empty seats it´s also achievable.


We wouldn't have 12k in any stadium. Probably Pacaembu would attract more people, but it costs more to rent and in the end the attendance woudn't be that great. The fact is: CBRu is operating with a tiny staff and putting all money in the national team, while they try do build those franchises. In terms of events, they want 1 big event, payed by sponsors, and the rest fuck off, minimum investment. They are in debt and we'l find out we are screwed in a very short time.
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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 06 Jun 2019, 21:33

Tobar wrote:
Armchair Fan wrote:David Melé told El Tercer Tiempo podcast that he's finally retiring to become a coach after July 1.

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Bathco earned promotion onto Liga Heineken as La Vila couldn't overturn the result of the first game in Santander. So we will have two new teams in the top tier next season.


That’s odd, he literally just signed a contract with Austin for 2020. Must’ve changed his mind or gotten injured.

Edit: to clarify, do you mean professionally or from international rugby?
Professionally. He must have changed his mind. Given Austin current form who wouldn't...

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Edgar » Thu, 06 Jun 2019, 21:59

Bathco earned promotion onto Liga Heineken as La Vila couldn't overturn the result of the first game in Santander. So we will have two new teams in the top tier next season.


Is that two teams from Santander in the top division now? Who else got promoted? Still no representation from the entire southern half of the peninsula, from Valencia on down?

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 06 Jun 2019, 22:07

Ciencias Sevilla got promoted a fortnight earlier, so the southern half maintains some sort of presence.

And yes, there will be two teams from Santander next year. Cantabria region has less than 1000 players but will sustain two top tier teams thanks to a reasonably successful business model. A different question is popular support, strength of academies or their facilities.

They are basically the opposite to Valencia and Andalucía, two regions whose best players emigrate due to the lack of career paths.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Tobar » Thu, 06 Jun 2019, 22:18

Armchair Fan wrote:
Tobar wrote:
Armchair Fan wrote:David Melé told El Tercer Tiempo podcast that he's finally retiring to become a coach after July 1.

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Bathco earned promotion onto Liga Heineken as La Vila couldn't overturn the result of the first game in Santander. So we will have two new teams in the top tier next season.


That’s odd, he literally just signed a contract with Austin for 2020. Must’ve changed his mind or gotten injured.

Edit: to clarify, do you mean professionally or from international rugby?
Professionally. He must have changed his mind. Given Austin current form who wouldn't...


That’s odd, it was literally just announced leas than 4 weeks ago.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Edgar » Thu, 06 Jun 2019, 22:28

Ciencias Sevilla got promoted a fortnight earlier, so the southern half maintains some sort of presence.


Tremendous news for Andalusian rugby! I've always been a big fan of Ciencias. They won a few titles back in the 90s - including the Copa Iberica. Thanks for the update :thumbup:

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 12 Jun 2019, 11:07

Fundación Trinidad Alfonso will invest 200,000€ next season in the four Comunitat Valenciana teams involved in División de Honor B:
https://fundaciontrinidadalfonso.org/la ... alenciano/

This foundation is the sports philantropy branch founded by Juan Roig (Mercadona supermarket chain and Valencia Basket owner) which already supported Copa del Rey final last year.

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