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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Edgar » Thu, 11 Jul 2019, 20:57

Pacific Games day one

Cook v Nauru 22-5

Results should come here https://www.samoa2019.ws/games/rugby-7s/#results

Pool A: Fiji, Cook, New Caledonia, Nauru, Wallis&Futuna
Pool B: Samoa, Tonga, Solomon, Tuvalu, American Samoa

Little Nauru already conquered 5 gold medals in these games, just two less than Australia


That's a respectable result for Nauru. Despite only having a tiny population themselves, the Cooks are able to draw on a fairly sizable NZ-based diaspora, and are certainly the region's No. 4 team at XVs level. They famously beat Italy once, way back in 1980.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Fri, 12 Jul 2019, 04:47

Pacific Games first day, from https://www.facebook.com/oceaniarugbyunion/

Samoa v American Samoa 19-0
Tonga v Tuvalu 37-0 (corrected by Oceania Rugby, previously 42-0)
Cook v Nauru 22-5
Fiji v Wallis&Futuna 45-0
Rest: New Caledonia and Solomon

American Samoa v Tuvalu 21-5
Samoa v Solomon 36-5
Nauru v Wallis&Futuna 26-12
Fiji v New Caledonia 47-0
Rest: Tonga and Cook

New Caledonia v Wallis&Futuna 21-15
Fiji v Cook 21-0
American Samoa v Solomon 0-29
Samoa v Tonga 12-12
Rest: Tuvalu and Nauru
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby mcruic » Fri, 12 Jul 2019, 09:35

Official website is slow to update results - but they are uploading them now.

As expected, the first 3 men's results are all different:

Cook Islands 24-5 Nauru (not 22-5)
Fiji 51-0 Wallis & Futuna (not 45-0)
Tonga 37-0 Tuvalu (not 42-0)

Fiji 7s team on Twitter posted 4 results (2 men and 2 women) for Day 1 - 3 of the 4 results are different to what Oceania Rugby posted.
http://theroonba.com Results from 70 team sports

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Fri, 12 Jul 2019, 09:52

and the two women results I've seen on PNG facebook are different from the Oceania Rugby ones : )

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby mcruic » Fri, 12 Jul 2019, 10:14

All results now uploaded on official site.

Only the 3 mentioned above were different (the first 3 men's matches) - all the rest agree with Oceania Rugby.
http://theroonba.com Results from 70 team sports

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Fri, 12 Jul 2019, 20:24

PG day two

Cook v Wallis&Futuna 26-7
New Caledonia v Nauru 17-21 :!:
Tonga v American Samoa 17-0 (or 40-0 ?)
Solomon v Tuvalu 35-0

Fiji v Nauru 50-0
Cook v New Caledonia 14-7
Tonga v Solomon 45-5
Samoa v Tuvalu 83-0 (Samoa needed a big margin to win the pool, so they merciless scored thirteen tries in fourteen minutes...)

Rankings

SAM 221-2 = 7
TON 2-122 = 7
SOL -0220 = 4
AMS 0200- = 2
TUV 00-00 = 0

FIJ 222-2 = 8
COO 2-022 = 6
NAU 02-20 = 4
NCL -0200 = 2
WEF 0000- = 0

So...
1st place final: Fiji v Samoa 7-5
3rd place: Tonga v Cook 19-10
5th place: Nauru v Solomon 12-27
7th place: New Caledonia v American Samoa 19-24
9th place: Tuvalu v Wallis&Futuna 5-22
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Edgar » Fri, 12 Jul 2019, 22:19

New Caledonia v Nauru 17-21


Amazing!

Wonder why Vanuatu and Tahiti aren't represented in the 7s.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Sat, 13 Jul 2019, 04:38

Pacific Games (see results above)

Gold FIJI
Silver SAMOA
Bronze TONGA

The finals were live on Olympic Channel. Nice little Pacific stadium, nice crowd and a dog invasion during the women's final.
Between league and sevens Fiji won 4 gold medals on 4 events in these Games

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Thu, 18 Jul 2019, 14:30

Saturday and sunday there's the second and last stage of the Euro Grand Prix; in Lodz, Poland.
The first placed in the final chart will be obviously crowned european champion
The best placed outside the World Series core teams will be invited to the WS Paris and London tournaments 2020.
The three best placed outside the WS core teams will be admitted to the WS qualifying tournament (Hong Kong?).
The two worst placed will be relegated in the Trophy and replaced by Lithuania and Ukraine.
I marked with a green spot the core teams, hoping to have not made mistakes.
Italy is in the middle between Hong Kong hopes and relegation fears.
Apparently host Poland is not granted from relegation.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Blurandski » Thu, 18 Jul 2019, 14:51

I believe that Ireland is a core team for next yer.

Russia, Portugal, Germany are the three you'd expect, but Russia has been poor recently.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Thu, 18 Jul 2019, 15:40

Thank you. Interesting, so Italy has good chances to go to Hong Kong.
Germany is pretty sure to go to HK and also to London and Paris; for the other two tickets to HK the fight should be between Portugal, Italy, Russia and Georgia

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 19 Jul 2019, 08:16

I reckon that the race for all places is still on.
We can expect a significantly weaker English team, after they reached the Olympics. Same probably goes for France and Ireland who also might try some new guys for the World Series and the repechage. The quarter-finals will be the deciding games. Portugal still has a shot to take those two World Series places away from Germany.
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Fri, 19 Jul 2019, 08:30

The two worst placed will be relegated in the Trophy
and replaced by Lithuania and Ukraine.

Sorry, but same judgement error for second year in a row

It is ONE OUT ONE IN for 7GPS <--> Trophy

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Pls, download COMPETITIONS MANUAL from RE site and see p. 9

Men’s Sevens Grand Prix Series
The Team finishing in 12th position after two legs (excepted 2020 host Union’s),
will be relegated to the Trophy and
be seeded Number 1 for the 2020 Trophy Tournament.

Men’s Trophy
The Team ranked first after both legs of the competition will be promoted to the Sevens Grand Prix Series
and will be seeded number 12 for the 2020 Series


::: CONFIRMATION

https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/lithuania-jo ... vens-rugby

LITHUANIA JOINS THE TOP OF EUROPEAN SEVENS RUGBY

... At the end of this tournament, a team would be promoted to the Top of European Sevens Rugby next season.

... Ukraine can consolate of not joining the 2020 Grand Prix thanks to
its qualification for the Colomiers Olympic qualifying tournament.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Sat, 20 Jul 2019, 11:24

First round results in Lodz, well done Azzurri and Lelos

Spa-Por 26-19
Fra-Rom 26-21
Ger-Rus 19-17
Eng-Geo 12-21
Ita-Wal 33-19
Ire-Pol 33-5

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Sat, 20 Jul 2019, 16:53

SUNDAY @ CET

CUP QF

11.00 SPN#A1 - WAL#8
11.22 IRE#B1 - POR#7
11.44 GER#C1 - FRA#A2
12.06 ITA#B2 - GEO#C2

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RUS OUT of HKG 2020 - OVERTAKEN by GEO

ROM RELEGATED to TROPHY - LTH WON PROMOTION EARLIER

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Sat, 20 Jul 2019, 17:34

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:ROM RELEGATED to TROPHY - LTH WON PROMOTION EARLIER
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Why do you affirm this? Because Russia and Poland are going to host a GP stage next year, therefore they are granted from relegation?

Nice results today for Italy and several surprising results in general, both in Lodz and in Kharkiv. Nice covering by Rugby Europe too, with good quality streaming images (maybe they should say the cameramen to not forgot to follow the conversions) and beautiful photo galleries on their socials.
Just a negative note, the usual one: the crowd. I think there were around 150/200 spectators in Kharkiv and 50/70 in Lodz

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Sat, 20 Jul 2019, 20:01

EXEMPT from RELEGATION -- see quote ABOVE

ROM can earn max 4pts on Sunday --
but they can't overtake neither ITA nor GEO
who are assured +6 pts for making cup QF

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Sat, 20 Jul 2019, 21:03

Hosts are exempt from relegation. Therefore, Russia, Poland and France are exempt from relegation from the Sevens Grand Prix Series if they are host Union in 2020
(https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/sites/defaul ... _final.pdf , page 9)
Just a bit strange that "if". Maybe there's an agreement with those federations but still not a definitive deal.

PS: minor doubt, concerning english language: why "Union's"? Shouldn't they write "excepted 2020 host Unions"?
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby NedRugby » Sat, 20 Jul 2019, 21:54

It's a common mistake even among native English speakers. I think we can forgive RE for the occasional grammatical error.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Sun, 21 Jul 2019, 10:36

GER ITA --> HKG 2020 = 7WS QUAL

* = 7WS CORE TEAM

= ALREADY ASSURED MINIMUM AFTER QF
(( +14 = CUP SF, +6 PLATE SF, +3 BOWL F ))

IRE* 18 + 14 = 32
GER 14 + 14 = 28
FRA* 20 + 6 = 26
SPN* 10 + 14 = 24
ITA 6 + 14 = 20
ENG* 16 + 3 = 19
WAL* 12 + 6 = 18
POR 8 + 6 = 14
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GEO 3 + 6 = 9
RUS 4 + 3 = 7

WIN in SF +4, in F +2, in BOWL F +1

Hence GEO keeps REMOTE CHANCE of OVERTAKING POR:

if GEO FINISHES 5th & POR 8th

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby RugbyLiebe » Sun, 21 Jul 2019, 11:59

Germany finally makes it to the World Series. As a guest, but that's a really important thing for our development
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Sun, 21 Jul 2019, 12:45

So, GEO is OUT, PORTUGAL --> HKG 2020 = 7WS QUAL

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby RugbyLiebe » Sun, 21 Jul 2019, 13:57

So another question.
Germany has, after beating Ireland, now the chance to win the Championship. The tie-breaker should be scored points like in the World Series, right? Or is it who won more tournaments?

Anyway: go Italy, go Germany :D
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Sun, 21 Jul 2019, 13:57

WIN in SF +4 = ADDED :!:

GER 14 +14 +4 = 32
IRE* 18 +14 = 32
FRA* 20 +6 +4 = 30
SPN* 10 +14 +4 = 28
WAL* 12 +6 +4 =22
ITA 6 +14 = 20
ENG* 16 +3 = 19
POR 8 +6 = 14
------
GEO 3 +6 = 9
RUS 4 +3 = 7

in BOWL F +1

... FINALS

17.24 CET = FRA - WAL
17.46 CET = ITA - IRE
18.11 CET = SPN - GER

WIN in F +2

IF both IRE and GER win,
it will end in a TIE and
WOULD BE resolved by
aggregate DIFF over two legs

In Moscow GER had +48 and IRE +24
In yesterday's pools GER +21 and IRE +78
In QF GER +7 and IRE +7
In SF GER +10 and IRE -10

which gives GER +86 and IRE +99
but GER plays after IRE this evening

:::

SORRY, IT STILL COULD BE 3-WAY TIE AFTER ALL =
if FRA also WIN and IRE and GER LOSE


FRA current DIFF = +127 +5 -7 +21 = 146 is MUCH SUPERIOR

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby RugbyLiebe » Sun, 21 Jul 2019, 14:01

Thanks FR for reading my mind and answering within seconds;)
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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