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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Wed, 30 Oct 2019, 10:48

Brave WR are not afraid of announcing GA
https://www.world.rugby/news/33929
but elections are a secret | sacred theme | thing ...

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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Wed, 30 Oct 2019, 10:55

May be, it's too early judging by this
https://www.world.rugby/news/158701?lang=en

Bill Beaumont and Agustín Pichot have been elected World Rugby Chairman and Vice-Chairman,
respectively, on an historic day for the international federation in Dublin.
11/05/2016 15:12

Beaumont unanimously elected Chairman and will begin term on 1 July = 2016

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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby sk 88 » Wed, 30 Oct 2019, 12:26

carbonero wrote:
(d) The Vice-Chair role is not independent so the elected Vice-Chair shall be one of the Representatives of their Member Union or Member Association and will not be in addition to that Member Union or Member Association’s Representatives.

https://www.world.rugby/handbook/bye-laws/bye-law-9


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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby victorsra » Sun, 03 Nov 2019, 20:44

When WR election (for Pichot-Lapasset) should be?
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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby thatrugbyguy » Mon, 04 Nov 2019, 02:50

The question is if Pichot gets the top job what his goals are. We know he wants the game to expand by the Nations League, which he was a big proponent of, failed. So he's going to need a different vision.

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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby victorsra » Wed, 06 Nov 2019, 14:46

Last election was in May... so this is only in May (2020) again?
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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 14 Nov 2019, 10:12

Eugenio Astesiano is somewhat doubtful about Laporte's final role as Pichot VP, "todo indicaba que":
https://hablemosderugby.com/2019/11/13/quartier-latin/

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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby carbonero » Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 21:00

Midi Olympique reports that Laporte is now in the running to be the vice-chair of Bill Beaumont. And they claim they have enough votes to win: Six Nations (18), USA (1), Canada (1), Japan (2), Asia (2) and Africa (2). That French Barbarian tour is starting to make sense now…

I have mixed feelings. It is immensely satisfying to see Pichot crash. However, there can’t be a more regressive ticket than Beaumont/Laporte.

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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 21:03

True. And Laporte is even more despicable.

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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby RugbyLiebe » Mon, 25 Nov 2019, 07:33

carbonero wrote:I have mixed feelings. It is immensely satisfying to see Pichot crash. However, there can’t be a more regressive ticket than Beaumont/Laporte.


That's catastrophic news. I don't see anybody else with even the slightest chance or will to change things. Could you please remind me, why you don't like Pichot?
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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby carbonero » Mon, 25 Nov 2019, 18:43

I could write an essay but the gist of it is basically:

1) Pichot did great things for local rugby but all those breakthroughs coincided with the growth of his personal wealth. The business opportunities that came with professionalism were exploited directly by him or his friends: TV production, player representation, hospitality packages, travel agencies, sponsorship, etc.

2) He regularly employs friends in key positions. Now that the UAR is in flux, he claims that he doesn't have any say in day-to-day affairs. However, the board is controlled by his cronies: the president is a partner in his mining endeavors, the secretary works for his production company, Ledesma is a childhood friend, etc. Another one of his buddies, Santiago Phelan, got the Pumas job without any prior head coaching experience. Sudamerica Rugby’s Sebastián Piñeyrúa is also his friend and business partner.

3) ESPN and Fox Sports have been outsourcing production jobs into his company PEGSA. That move resulted in hundreds of layoffs in the industry. PEGSA offered some of those jobs back with less pay, less benefits and without respecting seniority.

4) We are almost four years into his tenure and he doesn’t have much to show for. Maybe the SF agreement, the extension of the residency rule and Uruguay’s rise could be attributed to him. Then it is more of the same. A tad better than Beaumont/Laport but not by much.

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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby victorsra » Mon, 25 Nov 2019, 18:54

Basically Pichot and Beaumont are fighting for Laporte's support?
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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby ficcp » Mon, 25 Nov 2019, 19:11

Carbonero : ¿is SCRUM one of the TV programs outsorced to PEGSA? Although the had an excellent analysis during the RWC coverage because they have outstanding analysts (Albanese, Lassala, Simone, Devedia) i missed a minimum selfcritic respect the Pumas performance. The only open criticism i heard, was from Gonzalez Amorosino who was a guest but not a stable member.

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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby carbonero » Mon, 25 Nov 2019, 19:50

Yeah, PEGSA has been producing all the rugby related content for ESPN Cono Sur in the last decade. Everybody feels that they are gun shy to criticize the UAR. Even the players are sometimes uncomfortable with that relationship. Nico Sanchez took a swing at them last week when Scrum questioned Matera’s captaincy.

The marriage with ESPN has some advantages. Most countries would dream for this wall-to-wall coverage. Also, I don’t think that Jaguares could exist without the support of ESPN. The same goes for competitions like the ARC.

PS: ESPN just bought the Sevens Series for the region. There will be legal streams for the first time ever.

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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby victorsra » Mon, 25 Nov 2019, 20:44

in Brazil too, SWS in ESPN
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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby Blurandski » Tue, 26 Nov 2019, 03:02

There's an awful lot to criticise Pichot for, including his tweeting. But he is vastly better than Laporte.

While he does financially benefit from growing rugby in South America, that's not exactly a bad by-product of him becoming more wealthy.

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Re: WR Presidential Elections

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 26 Nov 2019, 07:38

Fair points raised. I also don't like some of his more populistic twitter posts.
Thing is I believe, this might be the only thing how he could bring rugby in the Americas forward. Wasn't Argentina a deeply amateur union, before he took over? We all know the side affects of rugby's amateurish side and you need a close network to change things. As long as the sport grows, I think it is alright that he profits from it as well.
The British have their networks, too. The only difference being, that they only let guys in with the "right" background from the start in their circles. If Pichot choses people on their talents (in his opinion) that's okay.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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