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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby thatrugbyguy » Tue, 04 Feb 2020, 11:24

They chose to be misleading under the misguided idea this will somehow increase the exposure of the women game. Any moron could tell you you can fool people into watching a sport. If you're a casual or someone new to the game you would have no idea that logo is for a women's world cup. They are going to find out rather quickly, especially when the Rugby League World Cup is on in the same year, just how much they've set back women's rugby. But really, I shouldn't expect anything less from this inept organisation. The ones who I feel sorry for are the women who have been made invisible by this ridiculous decision. Unfortunately they are going to have to suffer the consequences of this braindead idea. I will be will to put money on it they revert to calling the Women's World Cup after this.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby grande » Tue, 04 Feb 2020, 14:42

Huh, looks like they got rid of the placement fixtures (7th place, 9th place, etc).

I'm kinda bummed about that. The placement matches often featured teams that generally don't play each other too regularly. How often can you see Spain vs Hong Kong? Or Italy vs Japan? Or Samoa vs Kazakhstan?

On the other hand, I'm really pleased with the introduction of quarterfinals.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 04 Feb 2020, 14:48

It was already announced some time ago. And yes, it is extremely unfortunately and quite ridiculous that they had to make a choice between quarterfinals and placement games...

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Tue, 04 Feb 2020, 15:11

With an eventual passage from 12 to 16 nations we would have more cross-continent games during the pool phase. Let's hope they decide it for the next edition. Considering that this autumn two teams between Italy, Ireland, Spain and Scotland (#5, 9, 10, 11 in the world rankings) will be drop out from the World Cup, I think too there's room for an enlargement to 16 teams.

The next qualifying match should be Papua Guinea v Tonga, "to be played early in 2020" according to World Rugby; the game is confirmed but at the beginning of january the date was still not known
https://postcourier.com.pg/palais-name- ... nga-clash/

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 04 Feb 2020, 15:20

Bill Beaumont talking about expansion and creation of regional tournaments here, although he didn't really say anything really interesting. Nations Championship concept for women's rugby doesn't seem to make financial sense for them:
https://www.ivoox.com/chairman-of-world ... 164_1.html

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Tue, 04 Feb 2020, 18:43

Qualifying games left

29 february Tonga v Papua Guinea
? ? Samoa v (winner Tonga/Papua Guinea)
7 march Netherlands v Russia
7 march Colombia v Brazil
14 march Hong Kong v Kazakhstan
18 march Kazakhstan v Japan
22 march Hong Kong v Japan
5 april Spain v Russia
11 april Spain v Netherlands
? april Kenya v (winner Colombia/Brazil)
5 september first leg european qualifying semifinal
5 september first leg european qualifying semifinal
12 september second leg european qualifying semifinal
12 september second leg european qualifying semifinal
26 (?) september final game european qualifying
? november (?) repechage tournament
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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 04 Feb 2020, 18:45

Uberidiculous. As World Rugby social media profiles probably can no longer say "Women's Rugby World Cup", Spanish version literally claimed 2021 will be "the first RWC hosted in Southern Hemisphere":
https://twitter.com/WorldRugby_ES/statu ... 3776748544

Congrats to the brilliant minds who contributed to the cock-up, it won't be the last.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Tue, 04 Feb 2020, 21:27

An other version of the qualifying pathway

https://iili.io/H4JSjI.png

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Wed, 05 Feb 2020, 09:04

I count 31 nations involved in the World Cup qualifying; a light increasing respect to the last edition, if I'm not wrong

7 qualified thanks to the WRWC '17 placement
New Zealand, Australia, England, France, Usa, Canada, Wales

2 qualified via regional tournaments
South Africa, Fiji

15 still on the race
Tonga, Papua Guinea, Samoa, Colombia, Brazil, Japan, Hong Kong, Kazakhstan, Spain, Netherlands, Russia, Kenya, Italy, Ireland, Scotland

6 eliminated
India, Singapore, Philippines, Madagascar, Uganda, China

1 withdraw
Germany

Total
Europe 10
Oceania 6
North America 2
South America 2
Africa 4
Asia 7

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby NaBUru38 » Fri, 07 Feb 2020, 23:29

- So how do we promote women's rugby?
- How about prohibit using the word "women"?
- Done!

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Sat, 08 Feb 2020, 08:38

Problems in the Kenya team ahead of Tokyo 2020 and RWC qualifying http://ragahouse.com/news/item/kenya-li ... rs-dropped

According to the article the RWC qualifying barrage between Kenya and the winner of Colombia v Brazil is set for april and it's a single game on kenyan soil. The same article anyway puts the repechage tournament in june and that's impossible; it could be june 2021, maybe, even if I knew that it should be on november/december 2020

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby victorsra » Mon, 10 Feb 2020, 18:36

The Olympics are in July, it is possible to have the Repechage in June. Countries will have to split squads.... which is not a smart decision from WR. Should be no earlier than Late August.
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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Mon, 10 Feb 2020, 19:19

In september there are the european qualifications, it can't be before that. World Rugby said it will be at the end of 2020, the date ("june") in the kenyan article must be a mistake

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby victorsra » Mon, 10 Feb 2020, 19:57

Yep, probably November.
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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby ugrugbychiclet » Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 08:47

Canalina wrote:Problems in the Kenya team ahead of Tokyo 2020 and RWC qualifying http://ragahouse.com/news/item/kenya-li ... rs-dropped

According to the article the RWC qualifying barrage between Kenya and the winner of Colombia v Brazil is set for april and it's a single game on kenyan soil. The same article anyway puts the repechage tournament in june and that's impossible; it could be june 2021, maybe, even if I knew that it should be on november/december 2020


I think that they probably mixed it up with the 7s repechage which is in June. Having both the 7s Olympic and 15s WC repechages in June doesn't make sense at all.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 14:15

The Asia qualifying tournament has been moved eight weeks ahead, due to the coronavirus
The new hypothetical dates are 4, 8, 12 May

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Tue, 25 Feb 2020, 21:18

This saturday there's Papua Guinea v Tonga, play-off on the qualifying path
The winner will meet Samoa in the next step

I was mumbling about how many test matches has been called off due to a major force, in the last months

In men's RWC England-France, New Zealand-Italy and Canada-Nambia because of a typhoon
In women' WRWCQ the three Tonga's games because of measles
In women' Six Nations Scotland-England because of a storm (played the day after, without spectators)
In women' Six Nations Italy-Scotland because of a virus epidemic

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Wed, 26 Feb 2020, 19:47

From Samoa women team twitter page

ManuSina SWR
1h ago

Oceania Repechage
Game II
Manusina vs Winner of Tonga vs PNG

Game II will be played in Samoa in April. The winner of Game II will travel to Europe later in 2020 for the Global repechage

29 February - wider squad announcement
21 March - 26 player squad announcement


So, two news:
- Samoa v winner barrage will be in april
- the repechage tournament will be in Europe

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Fri, 28 Feb 2020, 18:05

I haven't understood if PNG v Tonga will be live shown, tomorrow

PS: oh, it will be on sunday, not on saturday as I believed

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Sat, 29 Feb 2020, 10:03

Apparently the three games of the Asian RWC qualifying have been postponed again. All the Asia Rugby competitions until june 30 will be re-fixed in new and still undefined dates, due to the virus outbreak.
Maybe this could affect also the dates of the intercontinental repechage, supposed to be played around november

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Sun, 01 Mar 2020, 07:08

Tonga leading PNG 22-17, four tries to three

Just five or ten minutes left, I think

Tries for Tonga were scored by Ma’ake, Kei, Tupou and Hifo
The tries scored by PNG were by Semoso (right on the start) and Maino (2)

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Sun, 01 Mar 2020, 07:38

As it often happens, it seems that Oceania Rugby don't care to give the final score, after having updated the score for the whole match. Let's assume that the last update, 17-29, was the final result

https://twitter.com/oceaniarugby

So PNG is out of the World Cup path, while Tonga will meet Samoa in April in Apia (with the samoans strongly favored, I suppose)

EDIT: it seems the final score is PNG 24 Tonga 36

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Sun, 01 Mar 2020, 10:34

A pair of photos of the game, from Oceania Rugby socials

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Unread postby Canalina » Mon, 02 Mar 2020, 18:02

A thing that seems a bit illogical is the fact that Russia men and Russia women this saturday will play at the same hour: 12.00 CET.
The men at home in Krasnodar, the women in the Netherlands.
It's quite rare to have a Russia women test match, it doesn't seem the best thing, for the fans and for the same players, to have it in contemporary with the men's game

https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/all-games-20 ... xt_match=1

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