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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 04 Dec 2019, 23:37

I read a book on the history of the English language. The reason the US does things differently in terms of measurements and spelling stems from every other English speaking country is down to when they broke away from Britain. As something of a last F-U to the Brits they started spelling their words differently. Hence why we spell it 'colour' and they spell it 'color'.

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby victorsra » Thu, 05 Dec 2019, 12:21

I hope the 4th spot of the Challenge is confirmed by a playoffs between North and South, giving the opportunity for Peru (or Venezuela, if they are able to travel) to contest the spot.
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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby jonny24 » Thu, 05 Dec 2019, 15:10

I think Canada uses everything. Every time these arguments come up I'm always mystified because I never knew any way as "right" or "wrong" . Dates are ambiguous sometimes, that's just part of life, and I've never once tried to determine the home team from who's listed first in a schedule or box score.

Although using X team @ Y team is clear, I never try to follow any convention when using VS.
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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby TheStroBro » Thu, 05 Dec 2019, 15:33

thatrugbyguy wrote:I read a book on the history of the English language. The reason the US does things differently in terms of measurements and spelling stems from every other English speaking country is down to when they broke away from Britain. As something of a last F-U to the Brits they started spelling their words differently. Hence why we spell it 'colour' and they spell it 'color'.

The 'u's in your words are French leftovers.

Imperial got us to the Moon, ain't nobody else gotten there...yeah it crashed a rover on Mars, but have you been to the Moon?

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby Blurandski » Thu, 05 Dec 2019, 17:41

TheStroBro wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:I read a book on the history of the English language. The reason the US does things differently in terms of measurements and spelling stems from every other English speaking country is down to when they broke away from Britain. As something of a last F-U to the Brits they started spelling their words differently. Hence why we spell it 'colour' and they spell it 'color'.

The 'u's in your words are French leftovers.

Imperial got us to the Moon, ain't nobody else gotten there...yeah it crashed a rover on Mars, but have you been to the Moon?



Didn’t NASA use metric?

With regard to the Us and other shortenings, wasn’t it to save money onnadverts/printing presses?

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby victorsra » Thu, 05 Dec 2019, 18:19

TheStroBro wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:I read a book on the history of the English language. The reason the US does things differently in terms of measurements and spelling stems from every other English speaking country is down to when they broke away from Britain. As something of a last F-U to the Brits they started spelling their words differently. Hence why we spell it 'colour' and they spell it 'color'.

The 'u's in your words are French leftovers.

Imperial got us to the Moon, ain't nobody else gotten there...yeah it crashed a rover on Mars, but have you been to the Moon?


You did went to the Moon but also bred Flat-Earthers at home :lol:
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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby TheStroBro » Thu, 05 Dec 2019, 19:18

Blurandski wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:I read a book on the history of the English language. The reason the US does things differently in terms of measurements and spelling stems from every other English speaking country is down to when they broke away from Britain. As something of a last F-U to the Brits they started spelling their words differently. Hence why we spell it 'colour' and they spell it 'color'.

The 'u's in your words are French leftovers.

Imperial got us to the Moon, ain't nobody else gotten there...yeah it crashed a rover on Mars, but have you been to the Moon?



Didn’t NASA use metric?

With regard to the Us and other shortenings, wasn’t it to save money onnadverts/printing presses?


NASA switched to the dual units system in 1990. What crashed the rover on Mars was a contractor using Metric units and failed to convert the numbers that were given in Imperial units. Pre 1990 NASA only used imperial.

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby Edgar » Thu, 05 Dec 2019, 20:35

Thatrugbyguy wrote:

I read a book on the history of the English language. The reason the US does things differently in terms of measurements and spelling stems from every other English speaking country is down to when they broke away from Britain. As something of a last F-U to the Brits they started spelling their words differently. Hence why we spell it 'colour' and they spell it 'color'.


Noah Webster is said to have been the man responsible, choosing phonetic spellings over orthodox (British) versions when he put together the standard American-English dictionary in the 19th century. But it probably had a lot more to do with the fact most people in the US at the time were not native English-speakers, and thus a more phonetic method of spelling was applied, while those who did speak it had also developed their own idiosyncrasies. In fact, American-English had diverged quite some way before the invention of film and TV, which helped create a common understanding as English became a global language, though it is the US version which now has by far the bigger influence.

Meanwhile, US South has named its squad for two games against Old Glory Capital Selects on Saturday. Not sure if that means two games on the same day, but they certainly have enough players if it does.

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby Tobar » Thu, 05 Dec 2019, 20:47

Interesting that Matt Hughston is playing there - I wouldn't be surprised if he had left RUNY for DC since that's much closer to his native Charlotte. Or he was just invited because of his connections to USA Rugby South.

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby TheStroBro » Thu, 05 Dec 2019, 23:37

Tobar wrote:Interesting that Matt Hughston is playing there - I wouldn't be surprised if he had left RUNY for DC since that's much closer to his native Charlotte. Or he was just invited because of his connections to USA Rugby South.


Matt Hughston turn out for USA South pretty often. The USA South team this last summer had Sullivan and Billy Stewart from NOLA on it.

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 06 Dec 2019, 07:36

TheStroBro wrote:
Blurandski wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:I read a book on the history of the English language. The reason the US does things differently in terms of measurements and spelling stems from every other English speaking country is down to when they broke away from Britain. As something of a last F-U to the Brits they started spelling their words differently. Hence why we spell it 'colour' and they spell it 'color'.

The 'u's in your words are French leftovers.

Imperial got us to the Moon, ain't nobody else gotten there...yeah it crashed a rover on Mars, but have you been to the Moon?



Didn’t NASA use metric?

With regard to the Us and other shortenings, wasn’t it to save money onnadverts/printing presses?


NASA switched to the dual units system in 1990. What crashed the rover on Mars was a contractor using Metric units and failed to convert the numbers that were given in Imperial units. Pre 1990 NASA only used imperial.


NASA did use metric as all of the data was stored in metric, but displayed in imperial units. The whole landing operation was in metric. The mastermind behind the whole thing, Wernher von Braun, off course didn't bother to work with a medieval measurement in all of his calculations as well.

About the °F: you are simply used to it. Celsius provides you with a simple information of measurements you basically see every day. The ice in your drink melts => above 0°C. The water boils => 100°C. Easy to figure out the rest and directly have a feeling what a temperature actually means. Even kindergarten kids understand, that a Minus means ice and snow.
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Re: Americas Rugby

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby TheStroBro » Tue, 07 Jan 2020, 20:39

The U20 ARC will go from 7 JUN to 19 JUN. I'm not sure I like that. But I suppose keeping teams together for three weeks in Colombia will be cheaper than flying them all over the place and playing curtain raisers during the ARC like they do in the 6 Nations.

I also understand that this is ahead of the Junior World Trophy, so the timeline does make sense.

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby Tobar » Tue, 07 Jan 2020, 21:18

Similar reason to the ARCh being in one city over the same time frame, especially because they’re u20 and best to keep them in one spot. Maybe when it’s more established they can do this.

What’s the format? I assume over 13 days that means 3 games each, right?

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby argie » Tue, 07 Jan 2020, 21:49

Maybe two pools of three. Plus the final positions games.
Three games each team.

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 13 Jan 2020, 10:51

ARC will be played with 50:22 kick. I don't like law trials implemented in test matches...

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby Canalina » Mon, 13 Jan 2020, 11:34

In the italian championship that law is active since october but no one utilizes it. Sometime, once every two or three games or even less, a 50/22 kick happens; but the feeling is that no one kicker searches it voluntarily, it just happens sometime.
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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby TheStroBro » Mon, 13 Jan 2020, 15:44

Armchair Fan wrote:ARC will be played with 50:22 kick. I don't like law trials implemented in test matches...

Got a source?

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Re: Americas Rugby

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby TheStroBro » Mon, 13 Jan 2020, 15:55



Got it.

Different subject, but why the heck are they so intent on reducing the tackle height. The last tackle law trial resulted in high concussion rates than the current tackle law height.

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby victorsra » Mon, 13 Jan 2020, 16:54

They are cheering for the Waist tackle :P
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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby Pichulonko » Mon, 13 Jan 2020, 17:04

Rugby Union is slowly turning into League

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby carbonero » Tue, 21 Jan 2020, 21:43

ARC/TRC double-header in San Juan on August 15:

Argentina XV vs. Chile
Argentina vs. South Africa

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Re: Americas Rugby

Unread postby Tobar » Tue, 21 Jan 2020, 21:47

Nice, great to see them taking advantage of the schedule timing. Great opportunity for Chile to play in front of what should be its largest crowd.

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Re: Americas Rugby

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