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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby victorsra » Fri, 13 Mar 2020, 01:11

That's it, no Chinese coverage.

What about Malaysia?
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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Thesjhughes » Fri, 13 Mar 2020, 08:45

Just read a good article on the China lions the New Zealand Herald website
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12316423

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Hinato » Fri, 13 Mar 2020, 10:35

Fijian Latui/China Lions: les compos
https://www.asierugby.com/post/fijian-l ... les-compos

Manuma Samoa/South China Tigers: les compos
https://www.asierugby.com/post/manuma-s ... les-compos

Western Force/Malaysia Valke: les compos
https://www.asierugby.com/post/western- ... les-compos

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Thesjhughes » Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 08:29

lions were very lucky to win in Fiji The Fijians discipline was very bad lost in the match
29 to 22 lions

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Canalina » Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 08:38

The live of (Samoa) v (South China)


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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby STMKY » Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 09:13

Enisei-STM and Krasny Yar fit perfectly into this tournament.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Higgik » Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 09:47

STMKY wrote:Enisei-STM and Krasny Yar fit perfectly into this tournament.

I didn't realise the time zone. They would be a great addition. Maybe a combined team could enter as 'Central Russian Bears'.
Add in a West Sydney team and split into 2 groups of 4, playing 10 games then semis and finals.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Chester-Donnelly » Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 09:53

Higgik wrote:
STMKY wrote:Enisei-STM and Krasny Yar fit perfectly into this tournament.

I didn't realise the time zone. They would be a great addition. Maybe a combined team could enter as 'Central Russian Bears'.
Add in a West Sydney team and split into 2 groups of 4, playing 10 games then semis and finals.


Please don't encourage him. It's not going to happen.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby STMKY » Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 10:01

Chester-Donnelly wrote:I didn't realise the time zone. They would be a great addition. Maybe a combined team could enter as 'Central Russian Bears'.
Add in a West Sydney team and split into 2 groups of 4, playing 10 games then semis and finals.


Everything goes to this. But there will be no Russian franchise. We do not have such a tradition. In Russia, the club system is traditionally. It is impossible to imagine that the old rivals Enisei-STM and Krasny Yar will be a single team. The same as mix Racing and Stade France.
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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Chester-Donnelly » Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 10:09

STMKY wrote:
Chester-Donnelly wrote:I didn't realise the time zone. They would be a great addition. Maybe a combined team could enter as 'Central Russian Bears'.
Add in a West Sydney team and split into 2 groups of 4, playing 10 games then semis and finals.


Please don't encourage him. It's not going to happen.


Everything goes to this. But there will be no Russian franchise. We do not have such a tradition. In Russia, the club system is traditionally. It is impossible to imagine that the old rivals Enisei-STM and Krasny Yar will be a single team. The same as mix Racing and Stade France.[/quote]

They combine when they play as Russia. Combining teams is pointless. The fact that there are 2 professional teams in Krasnoyarsk is in their favour. Teams can travel there, stay for a week and play both teams.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby STMKY » Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 10:18

Well I will explain to you. These are traditions, fans and derby. You cannot combine Manchester United and Manchester City. The Russian national team is another question. There is also a financial issue. Now Yenisei and Yar have two good budgets. But there are other sports clubs in the city. And some lobbyists of football and hockey will be very grateful if you combine Enisei-STM and Krasny Yar in one club. Then they can give several million dollars to the Enisei football club or the Sokol hockey club.
You think in the paradigm of Western sports in the Southern Hemisphere. But in Russia there are another traditions in sports, other conditions and other principles of financing. Therefore, it is better to have two strong pro clubs than one franchise. In Russia, this is 100% fact.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Chester-Donnelly » Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 10:52

Enisei-STM and Krasny Yar must just wait to see what happens with Japan's new professional league, Sunwolves, GRR, new Krasnoyarsk flights, Continental Rugby League. There might be opportunities in Asia in the future but not at the moment. They just need to keep improving so they can take their opportunity when it comes.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Canalina » Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 11:00

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Chester-Donnelly » Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 11:41

Valke hammered by Western Force as expected.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Thesjhughes » Sun, 15 Mar 2020, 06:13

It looks like rapid rugby is a suspended it as well Global Rapid Rugby Suspended. Worldwide travel and public health restrictions have led to the immediate suspension of the 2020 Rapid Rugby season. Read the statement from Rapid Rugby CEO Mark Evans. bit.ly/2xxjJl0[list=][/list][code][/code]

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby thatrugbyguy » Sun, 15 Mar 2020, 09:22

Link's broken, here's the correct one: https://www.rapid.rugby/2020-season-suspended/

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Higgik » Tue, 07 Apr 2020, 18:59

I know we all have no idea about the future of every professional sports league atm, but while we are suiting at home, had anyone noticed that there is a Chinese football team whose nickname is South China Tigers. They are owned by Evergrande, a huge company. Wondered if this was one of the investors that Mr Forrest has spoken of.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby victorsra » Tue, 07 Apr 2020, 22:43

Guangzhou and Hong Kong are cities very close, they form the Guangdong-Hong Kong megalopolis. There is a basketball team in this region called Guangdong Southern Tigers as well without links to the football club Guangzhou Evergrande. However, one of the owners of Guangzhou Evergrande is Alibaba, that wanted to invest on Chinese rugby. Alibaba has 37% ofthe club while Evergrande Real State has 56% (owning naming rights). The name "Tigers" is definitly not the clue, because it is not a creative one (tigers are a common symbol in China), but Alibaba is a clue.
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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Higgik » Wed, 08 Apr 2020, 08:53

victorsra wrote:Guangzhou and Hong Kong are cities very close, they form the Guangdong-Hong Kong megalopolis. There is a basketball team in this region called Guangdong Southern Tigers as well without links to the football club Guangzhou Evergrande. However, one of the owners of Guangzhou Evergrande is Alibaba, that wanted to invest on Chinese rugby. Alibaba has 37% ofthe club while Evergrande Real State has 56% (owning naming rights). The name "Tigers" is definitly not the clue, because it is not a creative one (tigers are a common symbol in China), but Alibaba is a clue.

That's my thought, if GRR can survive this mess, then it is well placed for Chinese investment and combined with a 'traditional' rugby city like HK, then it could begin to flourish there as well.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Duke of Earl » Wed, 08 Apr 2020, 15:01

It will be interesting to see how the global rugby landscape will look after the virus has cleared. I posted on an alternate thread about the potential imapct that private equity companies such as CVC will have on the game and see the same with GRR and the Australian/New Zealand Super Rugby teams.

Whilst the Australian/New Zealand Super Rugby have the player talent , they have no money , whereas the GRR teams are starting from a low cost base and have potentially bigger backers.

Would it be an option for the Australian/New Zealand Super Rugby teams to collaborate with GRR and have a larger Asian competion , perhaps including the Japanese league into an end of season competion. Would be beneficial commercially and from the perspective of player welfare but would there be too many personal/political agendas involved.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Unread postby Higgik » Wed, 08 Apr 2020, 15:27

Duke of Earl wrote:It will be interesting to see how the global rugby landscape will look after the virus has cleared. I posted on an alternate thread about the potential imapct that private equity companies such as CVC will have on the game and see the same with GRR and the Australian/New Zealand Super Rugby teams.

Whilst the Australian/New Zealand Super Rugby have the player talent , they have no money , whereas the GRR teams are starting from a low cost base and have potentially bigger backers.

Would it be an option for the Australian/New Zealand Super Rugby teams to collaborate with GRR and have a larger Asian competion , perhaps including the Japanese league into an end of season competion. Would be beneficial commercially and from the perspective of player welfare but would there be too many personal/political agendas involved.

Yes, an Asia/Oceania competition would be a good idea. Would have 6 NZ teams rather than 5 though, alongside Latui and Manuma to make an 8 team conference. Aus 5 plus Valke, South China and China Lions to make up other conference. 4 teams per division, play home and away in division and home or away v other 12 teams. 18 match season plus play offs.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

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