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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sat, 17 Aug 2019, 12:29

Currently Uganda-Madagascar 15-15 in the "house of the rising pain" near Johannesburg

https://livestream.com/baruchmedia/WomensRugby

They're not bad. The passes are quite slow but the handling skills are not bad, the teams are well structured and several players are able to try some individual adventure. The top of the World is still very far but these teams are certainly a step above respect to some T3 international team of the past. In my opinion, of course

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sat, 17 Aug 2019, 12:41

Final score 15-15, two tries each team

Apparently, and comprehensibly, the Madagascar's players are more happy for the result than the Uganda's ones

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby victorsra » Sat, 17 Aug 2019, 19:37

South Africa 39-00 Kenya. SA in the WRWC

Kenya will face a playoff against the South American champions next year.
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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Thomas » Mon, 19 Aug 2019, 08:46

Final results from the weekend

RUGBY AFRICA WOMEN’S CUP 2019
Results of the last two games of Saturday, August 17th

Madagascar 15-15 Uganda
South Africa 39-00 Kenya

Final ranking
1. South Africa (15 pts, + 196)
2. Kenya (10 pts, + 23)
3. Madagascar (2 PTS,-103)
4. Uganda (2 PTS,-116)

South Africa therefore qualifies directly for the women's rugby world cup 2021. Kenya will participate in the repechage with South America
Special mention for Madagascar who finished in 3rd in the year 1 of their existence.

I still have seen no confirmation if next week's test match between Colombia vs Brazil is towards qualification for the World Cup.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Mon, 19 Aug 2019, 10:24

Thomas wrote:Final results from the weekend

RUGBY AFRICA WOMEN’S CUP 2019
Results of the last two games of Saturday, August 17th

Madagascar 15-15 Uganda
South Africa 39-00 Kenya

Final ranking
1. South Africa (15 pts, + 196)
2. Kenya (10 pts, + 23)
3. Madagascar (2 PTS,-103)
4. Uganda (2 PTS,-116)

South Africa therefore qualifies directly for the women's rugby world cup 2021. Kenya will participate in the repechage with South America
Special mention for Madagascar who finished in 3rd in the year 1 of their existence.

I still have seen no confirmation if next week's test match between Colombia vs Brazil is towards qualification for the World Cup.


According to an update from WR in April (https://www.world.rugby/news/410898?lang=en), the South American qualifier is in 2020 so maybe that game is a build up match?

"REGIONAL WOMEN’S RUGBY WORLD CUP QUALIFICATION PATHWAY TOURNAMENTS;
Oceania: The expanded Oceania Women’s Rugby Championship 2019 will act as the WRWC 2021 qualifier with the winner qualifying directly to WRWC 2021
Rugby Europe: For the first time in Europe, a standalone qualification tournament will be held in September 2020. Ireland, Italy and Scotland will be joined by the winner of the 2020 Rugby Europe women’s championship with the winner qualifying directly to WRWC 2021
Asia Rugby: The existing Asia Rugby Women’s Championship 2020 will act as the WRWC 2021 qualifier with the winner qualifying directly to WRWC 2021
Rugby Africa: A new women’s competition to be held in August 2019 will act as the WRWC 2021 qualifier with the winner qualifying directly to WRWC 2021
South America: A WRWC 2021 qualification competition will be held in 2020. The winner will progress to a play-off between the second-placed team from the Africa regional tournament to determine the fourth team to compete in the Repechage.
The final team to qualify for WRWC 2021 will be decided via the new Repechage tournament, which will take place in 2020. The tournament will comprise of the second placed teams in the Asia, Europe and Oceania regional tournaments and the winner of the play-off between South America and second-placed team from the Africa regional qualifier."

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Thomas » Mon, 19 Aug 2019, 10:32

Thank for the info, I had missed that article, still the question remains who are the participating teams?

Colombia and Brazil have a XV Program no one else. all other countries don't have XV only 7's. you cannot magically create programs from thin air. The obstinacy of Sudamerica Rugby in developing a proper women's program is infuriating. I wouldn't be surprise if after 2021 they kick the can down the road yet again.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 19 Aug 2019, 11:04

I thought Argentina planned to enter.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Thomas » Mon, 19 Aug 2019, 11:28

Argentina has been planning a XV Program as far as 2012 or before. they keep starting programs but then for one reason or another it collapses and don't give it enough time to embed it or develop it with enough funds. If I was in the UAR i would aim for 2025.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Mon, 19 Aug 2019, 11:56

Thomas wrote:Thank for the info, I had missed that article, still the question remains who are the participating teams?

Colombia and Brazil have a XV Program no one else. all other countries don't have XV only 7's. you cannot magically create programs from thin air. The obstinacy of Sudamerica Rugby in developing a proper women's program is infuriating. I wouldn't be surprise if after 2021 they kick the can down the road yet again.


Thomas wrote: Argentina has been planning a XV Program as far as 2012 or before. they keep starting programs but then for one reason or another it collapses and don't give it enough time to embed it or develop it with enough funds. If I was in the UAR i would aim for 2025.


You're welcome Thomas. Argentina have until next year to put together a XVs team. Madagascar also had no history of XVs - only 7s but they put together a XVs team in a couple of months. I do not think that Columbia and Brazil would match South Africa so I do not think that Argentina would be as out of depth against Columbai and Brazil as Madagascar (and indeed Uganda) were against South Africa.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Mon, 19 Aug 2019, 12:09

If I'm not wrong Madagascar has a local XV championship, or at least I've seen in the last months news about some XV women's games between their clubs. Has already Argentina some XV clubs' activity?

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby carbonero » Mon, 19 Aug 2019, 17:02

No club competitions. Most of the clubs play 7s but the biggest regions are transitioning to 10s.

This year some provincial unions organized rugby festivals to introduce players to XVs. At least URBA, Cordoba and URNE held this type of events. They seem to be training towards some sort of tournament before the end of the year but don’t quote me on that.

The UAR is more focused in growing youth competitions, adding junior divisions in the different regional club tournaments, Nacional de Clubes and Seven de la Republica.

Thomas wrote:Argentina has been planning a XV Program as far as 2012 or before...

Do you have a source on this? Nothing I read suggests that we ever tried to set up a XV program. They barely had 500 registered players at the time.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Thomas » Tue, 20 Aug 2019, 08:08

I was there in 2013 and there had been a small independent club competition for women (XV) among the clubs but never got off the ground. partly they couldn't get the numbers and also the lack of support from UAR. At the time it was the excitement of Olympics that scuppered any plans at XV.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Tue, 20 Aug 2019, 08:24

Canalina wrote:If I'm not wrong Madagascar has a local XV championship, or at least I've seen in the last months news about some XV women's games between their clubs. Has already Argentina some XV clubs' activity?


As far as I know, Madagascar previously did not have have a local XVs competition. They probably started one this year to help them choose players for the African Cup. The Madagascar head coach said that getting forwards, especially props was the hardest thing for him to do when trying to put together his XVs team. The easiest was the back line - he just got the national 7s team.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Tue, 20 Aug 2019, 09:03

Thomas wrote:I was there in 2013 and there had been a small independent club competition for women (XV) among the clubs but never got off the ground. partly they couldn't get the numbers and also the lack of support from UAR. At the time it was the excitement of Olympics that scuppered any plans at XV.


7s is great but we need XVs for the women's game to truly grow. More player "types" can play XVs than 7s ...

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby diegodolan » Tue, 20 Aug 2019, 20:27

Armchair Fan wrote:I thought Argentina planned to enter.

As far as I know, Argentina was going to play with Colombia and Brazil, but today in the South America Rugby site put that they are going to repeat the Brasil - Colombia game in 2020 and the winner would play against Kenia.

This game is only a friendly game.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 21 Aug 2019, 11:18

Beyond ridiculous.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 21 Aug 2019, 19:40

Stupid

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Fri, 23 Aug 2019, 07:00

NAQING TU ED = nothing to add

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sat, 24 Aug 2019, 14:23

No Brasil and no Colombia, the Kenya's play-off opponent is Chile! :)

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 ... 318879.htm

Maybe it's just a mistake between men's and women's South America competitions

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby NedRugby » Sun, 25 Aug 2019, 12:23



Looks like we need to change the title of this thread. Would Rugby World Cup 2021 be clear enough, since it is in the Women's Rugby section of the forum? Or is having separate sections itself discriminatory?

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Mon, 26 Aug 2019, 14:52

NedRugby wrote:


Looks like we need to change the title of this thread. Would Rugby World Cup 2021 be clear enough, since it is in the Women's Rugby section of the forum? Or is having separate sections itself discriminatory?


:lol:

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Wed, 28 Aug 2019, 04:51

Spence: "I think adding 'Men’s' to their World Cup would be better".
It seems the wiser move, as Victorsra already suggested some posts above.
Anyway I'm not so sure that the World Rugby decision is a bad one. I think just in some years we will have an answer, after having been used to this change.
Maybe we will still think that it's a silly move, maybe we will think it's a brilliant one.
Don't forget that also when World Rugby changed its name from IRB they were buried by critics and bad words: "it's meaningless, it's too much generic, it takes off all the IRB history..." were some of the complaints. And now we all use naturally the name World Rugby and perhaps we all think how cryptic was the previous acronym IRB

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 29 Aug 2019, 23:18

In this radio interview Katie Sadleir claims they opted for this choice of new branding because it was going to make the bigger impact:
https://www.ivoox.com/world-rugby-the-f ... 505_1.html

It infuriated me how they try to sell the idea that *this tournament* is conceived on par with *the other one*. We all know it's not true. But by conceding interviews to mainstream media they rarely face the hard questions and can just spread their propaganda.

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