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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 13:05

In any case personally i like most citizens of my country do not believe a single word of these scammers.
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 13:21

Concrete acusations are needed, not conjectures assholes that came from 12 people from WADA.
And meeting should take place in court.
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 17:14

We note that the report proves that any manipulation of the data is the sole responsibility of the Russian authorities: “The Russian authorities were responsible for preserving the integrity of the Moscow Data.” (CRC Recommendations to the WADA Executive Committee) At the same time, we also note that the report finds that the sports movement has not been involved in any of this manipulation, and that the report does not indicate any wrongdoing by the sports movement in this regard, in particular the Russian Olympic Committee or its members. In this context, the IOC welcomes the opportunity offered by WADA to Russian athletes to compete, “where they are able to demonstrate that they are not implicated in any way by the non-compliance”.

https://www.olympic.org/news/statement- ... mendations

So who and when made changes if there were any changes at all? If this was done without the knowledge of Russian IOC, which is reflected in report, then these changes were made during period when the base was in Investigation Committee during 2017.
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 17:18

There was no point in changing the data of Moscow Laboratory because base stolen by Rodchenkov was already at disposal of WADA.

I dont understand why WADA needed this base because it was identical to that stolen by Rodchenkov.
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 17:27

This is either a crooked unskilled police programmer who moved and deleted files by mistake or WADA planned provocation. There is no logical explanation! It would make sense to delete or modify files if data base had not been stolen by Rodchenkov. But even in this case program would have left traces of data base changes that WADA would have easily noticed ......
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 17:27

In any case an investigation is needed. Personally i have no confidence in this shit from Canada ...
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 17:37

I dont have confidence in this shit after being allowed to take dope for tennis Williams sisters or gymnast Biles. Or Norwegian skiers guzzling dope handfuls.
Thousands of western athletes are allowed to take doping formally.
Which countries are leaders in this indicator think everyone knows.
Since founding of this organization in 99 WADA Presidents have been Canadian, Australian and English.
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 29 Nov 2019, 11:46

Data management system (LIMS) Moscow doping laboratory were more than 500 times with IP addresses which belong to US.
To enter LIMS you need to know master code or any of local codes with a limited tolerance.
Now compare all this with fucking bastard Rodchenkov who returned from Canada who knows all these codes and has unlimited access to all data.
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 29 Nov 2019, 11:48

Russia mistake is that our sports were not defended by special services, this is absolutly necessary!
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 29 Nov 2019, 11:56

Rugby players i knew were told that under Rodchenkov it was possible to destroy a positive doping test for money.
Scum arranged a corruption system in Russia and then bamed state. It is a lying criminal and human scum. Not the first who in West has been granted protection and asylum. Him there right place.
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 29 Nov 2019, 12:03

But if all this is proved after these events Russians will not have respect or love for West. West will be something like Ukraine.
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 29 Nov 2019, 12:15

Сost of Rodchenkovs house in suburbs is much more than his income as head laboratory. By the way house recorded on his daughter was not confiscated. Lawyers were able to defend him. Now his daughter lives there.
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 29 Nov 2019, 12:33

This whore from Canada has brought Russia much more harm than such a whore tennis player Shapovalov ...
Main rule is not to hire a whore in public service!
If you returned from West go to work at McDonalds!
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 29 Nov 2019, 15:54

If delete data of an athlete participating in international competitions from Moscow Laboratory, then in a month he will be caught in competitions abroad. traces of doping will remain.
This makes no sense.

And if WADA gives a “therapeutic exception” to Selena Williams, then she can safely take doping without worrying about disqualification ...

This is how it works.
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 29 Nov 2019, 16:05

Lance Armstrong was caught after being accused by Tyler Hamilton.
If not for that he still be a sports hero of United States.
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 02 Dec 2019, 05:17

We now have new data, almost everything thati wrote is confirmed.
New thing is that together with Rodchenkov, programmer serving Moscow laboratory escaped to the USA! I suspect that these two fucking rats have established a good business.
New programer made a mistake and, for example transferred part of files of 2019 to 2016.
This was before transferring base to WADA.

I want to say once again "reference base" of Moscow laboratory was in WADA, there was no sense in changing data of Moscow laboratory.
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 02 Dec 2019, 05:18

For this they want to disqualify Russia for 4 years. 8-)
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Re: Winter Olympics

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 02 Dec 2019, 05:31

Fact that WADA is a branch ofState Department and an analogue of NATO in sports does not raise any doubts.
This organization was created to create a group of countries of advantage in sports competitions, this organization has nothing to do with the fight against doping.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby amz » Mon, 09 Dec 2019, 11:05

I presume it is also applicable in rugby

https://news.sky.com/story/russia-banne ... uE75t8Ti_s

LE: reading it again, can't deny a schadenfreude feeling :twisted:

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby thatrugbyguy » Mon, 09 Dec 2019, 12:44

I feel sorry for all the athletes who had nothing to do with any of this who have been punished because of other people activities.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 09 Dec 2019, 13:03

Russia was disqualfied for a mistake by a programmer serving database after flight of chief specialist along with Rodchenkov.

This decision has no relation to doping, sport or justice.
WADA is a fucking organization that advocates use of doping by Western athletes.
Ideal solution would be to strike missiles at their headqurters. I for this decision. Russia does not need pity.

A copy of base of Moscow laboratory is located at WADA and deliberete change of base in Moscow by programer makes no sense. This is a maintenance error.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 09 Dec 2019, 13:09

amz wrote:I presume it is also applicable in rugby

https://news.sky.com/story/russia-banne ... uE75t8Ti_s

LE: reading it again, can't deny a schadenfreude feeling :twisted:

No, Russia is not in danger. Any court will overturn decision of this fucking organization.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Mon, 09 Dec 2019, 13:30

Vova12 wrote:Russia was disqualfied for a mistake by a programmer serving database after flight of chief specialist along with Rodchenkov.

This decision has no relation to doping, sport or justice.
WADA is a fucking organization that advocates use of doping by Western athletes.
Ideal solution would be to strike missiles at their headqurters. I for this decision. Russia does not need pity.

A copy of base of Moscow laboratory is located at WADA and deliberete change of base in Moscow by programer makes no sense. This is a maintenance error.


For once instead of constantly denying and seeing a conspiracy, you can just see the fact that Russia is simply notorious for doping.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_in_Russia

43 medals stripped away because of doping, clear state organized doping and when the basically toothless WADA opens a door again and again and again, they try to trick them again.

This is only Russia's own fault and nobody else's.
You make your own country look stupid, because if you wouldn't have tricked you would be simply way more stupid than all the others that don't get caught as much as you. Chose what you want to be: stupid or state dopers?

About rugby: when they consider the soccer EURO not a major event, I doubt this will have any consequences for rugby.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 09 Dec 2019, 13:36

Mainly for use of meldonium and bromantanum which western analogues are allowed by WADA.
Western athletes use doping legally. WADA permits them. Meet me in court, i wont discuss it here.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 09 Dec 2019, 13:39

Maybe the Russians are stupid and gullible but for that they are not lying and mean as Western countries ...
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