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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby iul » Fri, 23 Nov 2018, 21:54

amz wrote:
iul wrote:Now imagine if SuperLiga would have followed football's example and mandated each club has to have a couple of U20s on the pitch.


And where is football now? Cluj was kicked out of European Cup by a Luxembourg team of amateurs. The other team were crap as well. :roll:

I think your issue is you don't follow rugby in fact. Most of the guys who are 20 (Neculau, Pasalan, Tala, Iliuta, Iancu, Hartig) played with their club teams in SuperLiga or DNS. The issue is with 1999/2000 kids who are still in junior clubs or play less with senior teams so the issue is the lack of a better U18-U20 local competition and not the lack of chances with senior clubs for the young U20 players.

On the other hand, some U20 played in King's Cup just before the tournament and got injured e.g. Visan which meant we have only one specialized lock in the team.

As a little update on this, Romania's U21 football team just qualifid to the U21 Euro for the first time since the early 90's. Seems like forcing the pro clubs to put more focus on growing kids is working. They're even doubling down on this policy by increasing the number of youths in the match day squad and on the pitch. :thumbup:

EDIT: To put into perspective how good a resut qualifying to that competition is, let me mention the competition only has 12 teams.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby victorsra » Wed, 05 Dec 2018, 16:58

Dec 4th - Samoa 12 - 16 Tonga, in Apia - first leg of the Oceania U20s Trophy.

Next match: Tonga - Samoa, on Dec 8th, in Apia too.

The winner qualifies for the 2019 WR U20s Trophy in Brazil.
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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 05 Dec 2018, 17:41

Is the hosting venue decided yet?

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Wed, 05 Dec 2018, 17:47

iul wrote: Seems like forcing the pro clubs to put more focus on growing kids is working.

EVRICA... Wow what a surprise...
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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 06 Dec 2018, 10:04

RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:EVRICA... Wow what a surprise...


Please tell me that you are not the most annoying guy on facebook who posts this annoying meme on every rugby thread. If you are: stop it. :D
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby victorsra » Thu, 06 Dec 2018, 12:46

Armchair Fan wrote:Is the hosting venue decided yet?


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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby amz » Thu, 06 Dec 2018, 13:43

Sometimes I wonder if @iul really watch SL. Clubs already did this , signed less foreigners and basically all ex U20s have pro contracts (even some U19 or U18 players there).

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Thu, 06 Dec 2018, 14:39

RugbyLiebe wrote:
RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:EVRICA... Wow what a surprise...


Please tell me that you are not the most annoying guy on facebook who posts this annoying meme on every rugby thread. If you are: stop it. :D

Thank you, im really trying. Hope to start up Humor school in Berlin some day or produce tiny size condoms for Asians.

Anyways, in order to have descent rugby schools, union must promote this sport in the country to attract young athletes and make them interested to play rugby instead of Football or Basketball...

Romania desperately needs new generation of players. They have 5 years to prepare for 2023...

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby amz » Thu, 06 Dec 2018, 14:50

RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:
Romania desperately needs new generation of players. They have 5 years to prepare for 2023...


Qualifications starts in 2020 and unless Haig pulls something from his hat next year it looks like you'll be involved too

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby iul » Thu, 06 Dec 2018, 14:56

amz wrote:Sometimes I wonder if @iul really watch SL. Clubs already did this , signed less foreigners and basically all ex U20s have pro contracts (even some U19 or U18 players there).

There's a big difference between having a contract and actually playing.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby amz » Thu, 06 Dec 2018, 15:05

iul wrote:
amz wrote:Sometimes I wonder if @iul really watch SL. Clubs already did this , signed less foreigners and basically all ex U20s have pro contracts (even some U19 or U18 players there).

There's a big difference between having a contract and actually playing.


Yong players to face Clermont (in bold):

TIMISOARA SARACENS
15. Luke Samoa, 14. Marius Simionescu, 13. Florin Popa, 12. Jack Umaga, 11. Stephen Shennan, 10. Jody Rose (c), 9. Gabriel Conache, 1. Sione Halalilo, 2. Andrei Radoi, 3. Mesake Doge, 4. Ionut Muresan, 5. Marius Iftimiciuc, 6. George Tatarus, 7. Vasile Rus, 8. Michael Stewart.
Remplaçants:
16. Eugen Capatina, 17. Henri Boshoff, 18. Samuel Maris , 19. Dorin Lazar, 20. Randall Morrison, 21. Gabriel Rupanu, 22. Thomas Whitehurst, 23. Daniel Vladut Zaharia,

all in bold u23 except Muresan (24)

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby iul » Thu, 06 Dec 2018, 16:50

Must start them off even younger

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 09 Dec 2018, 00:33

victorsra wrote:Dec 4th - Samoa 12 - 16 Tonga, in Apia - first leg of the Oceania U20s Trophy.

Next match: Tonga - Samoa, on Dec 8th, in Apia too.

The winner qualifies for the 2019 WR U20s Trophy in Brazil.

Tonga beat Samoa again 20-27 to clinch the spot for U20 Trophy https://www.facebook.com/oceaniarugbyun ... &__tn__=-R

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Canalina » Mon, 10 Dec 2018, 13:14

I was about to ask if you know the dates of next Junior World Championship but just in these hours UAR finally published them.
Pool games on June 4, 8, 12; semifinals and finals, I suppose, on June 17 and 22

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Mon, 10 Dec 2018, 17:07

Rugby media | officialdom | even coaches seem to be UN'PROFESSIONAL
as they in most cases forget PLAY-OFFS and concentrate too much on POOLS

This was the case even at RWC 2019 Draw
where NOBODY uttered a word about further path:
say, can NZL and AUS or IRE meet before the Final

The reason is obvious:

pool schedule is ready-laid at one's finger tips
whereas very same one should work-out play-off graphs him|her'self,
ie those people lack elementary maths' skills

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 11 Dec 2018, 08:55

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:Rugby media | officialdom | even coaches seem to be UN'PROFESSIONAL
as they in most cases forget PLAY-OFFS and concentrate too much on POOLS

This was the case even at RWC 2019 Draw
where NOBODY uttered a word about further path:
say, can NZL and AUS or IRE meet before the Final

The reason is obvious:

pool schedule is ready-laid at one's finger tips
whereas very same one should work-out play-off graphs him|her'self,
ie those people lack elementary maths' skills

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The lack of even basic statistics is really shocking in rugby. Worth to discuss why this is the case. I mean you do have a lot of academics playing the game, so basic math skills shouldn't be the problem.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby rey200 » Tue, 11 Dec 2018, 10:02

Stats were invented by Americans, and you know, they did the unthinkable and left the glorious everlasting empire
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