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June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby victorsra » Wed, 05 Jun 2019, 22:50

Time: 7:30 PM
Venue: Estádio José Liberatti - Osasco (Greater São Paulo)
Referee: Juan Pablo Federico (Argentina)
Broadcast: ESPN2

Spain is already training in São Paulo, at the São Paulo Athletic Club:

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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 05 Jun 2019, 23:07

Yep, according to Mar Álvarez in El Tercer Tiempo they will train again there tomorrow.

Unfortunately it doesn't look like it will be broadcast in Spanish TV unless a miracle happens.

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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby victorsra » Wed, 05 Jun 2019, 23:25

Spanish squad:

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Osasco stadium:
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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 06 Jun 2019, 12:40

Armchair Fan wrote:Unfortunately it doesn't look like it will be broadcast in Spanish TV unless a miracle happens.

And it happened. Big news as it will be broadcast live by GOL, owned by sports TV rights powerhouse Mediapro and on FTA TV:
https://www.goltelevision.com/prensa/notas?id=511

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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby victorsra » Fri, 07 Jun 2019, 02:10

Brazilian squad: http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... -a-espanha

Lucas Abud (Poli), André Arruda (Desterro), Ariel Rodrigues (Poli), Arthur Bergo (Utah Warriors, EUA/MLR), Cléber “Gelado” Dias (Poli), Daniel “Maranhão” Lima (Poli), Daniel Sancery (São José), Gabriel Paganini (Band Saracens), Jacobus De Wet Van Niekerk (Poli), Jardel Vettorato (Farrapos), João Pedro “Sininho” Talamini (Poli), Josh Reeves (Utah Warriors, EUA/MLR), Laurent Bourda-Couhet (Band Saracens), Lorenzo Massari (Parabiago, Itália/2ª divisão), Lucas “Tanque” Duque (São José), Lucas Piero “Bruxinho” de Moraes (Desterro), Lucas “Zé” Tranquez (Poli), Luiz Gustavo “Monstro” Viera (Tyrosse, França/3ª divisão), Matteo Dell’Acqua (Valorgby, Itália/1ª divisão, Michael “Ilha” Oliveira (São José), Michel “Vanzinha” Olimpo (São José), Wilton Murilo “Nelson” Rebolo (Band Saracens), Robert Tenório (Pasteur), Stefano Giantorno (São José), Yan Rosetti (CUBA, Argentina), Matheus “Blade” Rocha (Jacareí), Moisés Duque (São José), Felipe Sancery (São José).
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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby NaBUru38 » Fri, 07 Jun 2019, 18:44

Very interesting matchup, and great news about Gol.

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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby 4N » Fri, 07 Jun 2019, 18:53

NaBUru38 wrote:great news about Gol.


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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby victorsra » Fri, 07 Jun 2019, 20:02

Line-ups: http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... ara-sabado

Brasil: 15 Daniel Sancery (c), 14 Lucas “Zé” Tranquez, 13 Lorenzo Massari, 12 De Wet Van Niekerk, 11 Daniel “Maranhão” Lima, 10 Josh Reeves, 9 Lucas “Tanque” Duque, 8 André “Buda” Arruda, 7 Arthur Bergo, 6 Cléber “Gelado” Dias, 5 Luiz “Monstro” Vieira, 4 Matteo Dell’Acqua, 3 Jardel Vettorato, 2 Wilton Murilo “Nelson” Rebolo, 1 Lucas Abud;

Suplentes: 16 Yan Rosetti, 17 João Pedro “Sininho” Talamini, 18 Matheus “Blade” Rocha, 19 Gabriel Paganini, 20 Lucas “Bruxinho” Piero, 21 Laurent Bourda-Couhet, 22 Moisés Duque, 23 Robert Tenório;

Espanha:15 Richard Stewart, 14 Julen Goia, 13 Ignacio Contardi, 12 Alvar Gimeno, 11 Jordi Jorba, 10 David Mélé, 9 Facundo Munilla, 8 Afa Tauli, 7 Oier Goia, 6 Victor Sánchez, 5 Michael Walker-Fitton, 4 Manuel Mora, 3 Alberto Blanco, 2 Steve Barnes, 1 Fernando Lopez (c);

Suplentes: 16 Thierry Feuteu, 17 Vicente Del Hoyo, 18 Mattius Pisapia, 19 Ien Ascroft.Leigh, 20 Michael Hogg, 21 Tomás Munilla, 22 Emiliano Calle, 23 Federico Castiglioni;
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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 08 Jun 2019, 09:04

Santos bets on experience and a powerful pack similar to the one who fared well against Georgia last February.

From a stats POV, shocking not to see a single player from Madrid in the squad while there are five players formed in Andalucía, four of them Málaga province, in spite of the fact all of them were born abroad (Munilla bros and Hogg from Marbella, Calle from Málaga plus Pisapia from Almería; Argentina, Argentina, England, Argentina, Venezuela).

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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby victorsra » Sat, 08 Jun 2019, 12:21

Well, Brazilians can't complain. We have players from NZ (Reeves), SA (De Wet) and France (Bourda-Couhet), while altough all were born in Brazil Sancery was raised in France, Dell'Acqua and Massari in Italy and Rosetti in Argentina. This means 7 out of 23 players that weren't raised in Brazilian rugby... And important to note Reeves and Bourda-Couhet did not go to Brazil to be rugby professional players. It happened.
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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 08 Jun 2019, 12:59

Yeah, I wasn't refering strictly to the debate about foreign-born players, I just thought it was a curious stat. Madrid has 9,000 licences but isn't able to give a single player raised there (OK, there is Thierry Feuteu, but he already played rugby in Cameroon). Then you've got a province not present in top-tier national rugby giving the national team four players (and we could add Joshua Peters and Jesús Moreno as regulars).

If we go into the details it's explanable. Madrid has lots of players and teams but it's amateur. They feed sevens and women's national teams, who are more adapted to the realities of their rugby. Málaga, or Andalucía and Valencia as regions, see their players emigrate and have lots of wealthy immigrants settling by the seaside, then their sons move.

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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 08 Jun 2019, 23:04

Chaotic refereeing and Brazil got the worst part of it so far...

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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 08 Jun 2019, 23:18

HT 13-22

Not a pretty game and Leones are their worst enemies. We gifted Brazil a try in the most stupid way when one man up...

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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby Edgar » Sun, 09 Jun 2019, 00:14

Spain hang on for the 16-22 win. Nailbiting finish as Brazil attacked their line.

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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby Osmanperalta » Sun, 09 Jun 2019, 00:16

the referee said: por que la sacan por dios.. in the middle of the match
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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 09 Jun 2019, 00:17

Probably the worst game from a spectator POV for me since Georgia-Spain. At least the second half of Copa del Rey final was exciting. Being a Spanish fan this season is tiring, we win but we play extremely ugly.

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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby payoranger » Sun, 09 Jun 2019, 00:20

Not a pretty game, many mistakes of both teams, but for Spain is important to win these matches abroad and out of season

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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby victorsra » Sun, 09 Jun 2019, 03:07

Armchair Fan wrote:Probably the worst game from a spectator POV for me since Georgia-Spain. At least the second half of Copa del Rey final was exciting. Being a Spanish fan this season is tiring, we win but we play extremely ugly.

417 people. Our rugby is screwed...
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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby argie » Wed, 12 Jun 2019, 00:03

The full match video.


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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 12 Jun 2019, 13:21

victorsra wrote:
Armchair Fan wrote:Probably the worst game from a spectator POV for me since Georgia-Spain. At least the second half of Copa del Rey final was exciting. Being a Spanish fan this season is tiring, we win but we play extremely ugly.

417 people. Our rugby is screwed...


That's a depressing number. What are the reasons for it? I mean you had 10k (if I recall that number right) against Germany.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby victorsra » Wed, 12 Jun 2019, 13:46

1 - CBRu invested zero promoting the game - no excuse for rugby people, as Portal and CBRu published about it. But people that are not rugby people were obviously absent (different from Maoris and Germany matches)
2 - It was in the same date of São Paulo Championship semifinals - more or less excuse, different times
3 - Stadium is good and has easy access by car, but bad access by public transportation and in an industrial/poor area some rugby people would have prejudice to go, specially in a Saturday night
4 - People are not feeling the same enthusiam towards the national team as they feel club rugby is being seriously left behind - very important aspect, that together with 1, 2 and 3 made people with less interest in going to the stadium, as it was live on ESPN and Facebook anyway.

Romania's match will be the same if not worse.
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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby Tobar » Fri, 14 Jun 2019, 15:36

victorsra wrote:1 - CBRu invested zero promoting the game - no excuse for rugby people, as Portal and CBRu published about it. But people that are not rugby people were obviously absent (different from Maoris and Germany matches)


Disappointing that they couldn't promote the game considering the fact that Spain could've been an interesting draw for non-rugby fans. Of course Spain isn't a world beater like Maori All Blacks but they're a very successful football side and much more recognizable than someone like Romania or Tonga.

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Re: June 08th - Brazil vs Spain

Postby NaBUru38 » Fri, 14 Jun 2019, 20:15

Also it's strange since Brazil defeats better teams every year.

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