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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby beber » Sat, 29 Feb 2020, 13:30

Lokomotiv Penza singed few experienced players including russia star Viktor Gresev and georgian international Giorgi Chkoidze. Sekisov, Brodzeli and Darboevi (a georgian player signed from Romania and expected to play for Russia soon) are other signings

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Tariel Donadze (GEORGIA)
Yuri Romashev
Sergey Sekisov (27 caps)
Mikhail Smagin
Vadim Sorokin
Alexey Titov

Hooker
Giorgi Chkoidze (GEORGIA, 9 caps)
Ivan Mochalov
Daniel Sheremetyev
Maxim Trifanov

Lock
Abdulmanar Mahmudov
Denis Nosachev
German Silenko
Vadim Zharkov

Backrow
Alexey Bashev
Viktor Gresev (102 caps)
Magomed Ilyasov
Vladislav Perestyak
Ilia Spanderashvili (GEORGIA)
Rinat Timerbulatov (3 caps)

Scrumhalf
Maxim Gumnov
Sergey Taraskin
Rudi Van Rooyen (SOUTH AFRICA) ex-Southern Kings Pro14 & Super Rugby

Flyhalf
Revaz Brodzeli (GEORGIA)
Dimitry Sukhin
Maxim Uskov (3 caps)

Centre
Ardash Darboevi (GEORGIA)
Valery Khlutkov
Viktor Telnov
Nika Tsirekidze (GEORGIA)
Sergey Yanyushkin (17 caps)

Back-Three
Alexander Gudok
Anton Novichkov
Nikita Sbotov
Igor Snisarenko (UKRAINE, 11 caps)
Ruslan Yagudin (17 caps)

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby amz » Sun, 01 Mar 2020, 15:01

I never heard of Darboevi ; Are you sure he played in Romania?

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby beber » Sun, 01 Mar 2020, 22:15

amz wrote:I never heard of Darboevi ; Are you sure he played in Romania?


He played for Constanta. Not listed anymore on Super Liga website but we can still find some articles where we can see him listed
https://www.ziuaconstanta.ro/stiri/spor ... 67347.html

https://www.axanews.ro/mm/rugby-cupa-re ... tanta.html

http://www.rugbybaiamare.ro/a-c-s-tomit ... probabile/

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 07 Mar 2020, 17:56

Tatar, Russian and black Russian ... They won today! 8-)

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Zhenya_Zima » Sat, 07 Mar 2020, 23:06

Or, in shorthand, Russians.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Sun, 08 Mar 2020, 08:05

Foreigners do not understand. For them we are all Russian. But we have two groups. Russkie and Rossiyane. It’s like a Russian doll. Double identity.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Sun, 08 Mar 2020, 08:55

STMKY wrote:Foreigners do not understand. For them we are all Russian. But we have two groups. Russkie and Rossiyane. It’s like a Russian doll. Double identity.


Every country has that. Nationality and citizenship. I am English and British. Anyone can move to England and become British but you can't become English, apart from in sport, but not really English.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Sun, 08 Mar 2020, 09:20

Chester-Donnelly wrote:Every country has that. Nationality and citizenship. I am English and British. Anyone can move to England and become British but you can't become English, apart from in sport, but not really English.


Britain is somewhat similar in this regard. Only you have 4 indigenous ethnic groups with a double identity. And we have more than 100. There are very small less than 1000 people. In Spain, I think a similar population structure. But in other countries this is not the case. In France, all Arabs and Negroes are called French. Same thing in Germany. They do not divide Native Germans and other ethnic groups.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Sun, 08 Mar 2020, 09:23

There are ethnic groups with a triple identity. These are the inhabitants of Dagestan. For instance. Tagir Gadzhiev. He is an ethnic Avar. Then a Dagestani and then a Russian.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 08 Mar 2020, 09:43

Just Russкy and Rossiyanin is translated into English as Russian.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby BigG » Sun, 08 Mar 2020, 18:14

According to rugger.info game vs Romania was the last one in Vladimir Ostroushko's international carrier.
I believe he is the best Russian rugby player of the last years.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 18 Mar 2020, 09:54

Russia Cup . Results of draw of first stage of tournament are known.

“CSKA” (Moscow) - “Yenisei-STM” (Krasnoyarsk)

Dynamo (Moscow) - Metallurg (Novokuznetsk)

“University” (Chita) - “Bulava” (Taganrog)

Narvskaya zastava (St Petersburg) - Krasny Yar (Krasnoyarsk)

"Rotor" (Volgograd) - "Bogatyri" (Krasnodar)

“Strela” (Kazan) - “Lokomotiv” (Penza)

Vladivostok Tigers (Vladivostok) - Slava (Moscow)

* VVA rival will be known later

Estimated dates for 1/8 Cup of Russia - June 6-7
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby beber » Sun, 22 Mar 2020, 19:01

One of the only rugby game played this week :

In pre season game, Slava Moscow smashed Bogatyr Krasnodar (ex-Kuban) 60-0

Tries Sidorov-2, Chernyshev, Antonov-2, Afanasyev, Holgate, Vavilin, Garifullin, Willemse, Khubaev, Tolmachev

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 22 Mar 2020, 20:06

Next friendly match with Kazan Strela will not take place. Epidemic service has banned play.
This is a photo after match. South Africans are also not very afraid of infection ...

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 09:21

In season 2020 season national team of Belarus will play in Russian Federal League.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 10:28

Vova12 wrote:In season 2020 season national team of Belarus will play in Russian Federal League.


What is Russian Federal League?

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 10:29

Chester-Donnelly wrote:
Vova12 wrote:In season 2020 season national team of Belarus will play in Russian Federal League.


What is Russian Federal League?


Also why are Belarusians not Russians? Why do they get their own country?

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 10:40

This is a long story. Once there were Russian principalities after invasion of Mongols, part of land fell under power of Poland, Hungary, Lithuania ...
Due to different history of land 3 nations were formed. This is very short.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 14:50

Chester-Donnelly wrote:
Also why are Belarusians not Russians? Why do they get their own country?


They are absolutely the same Russian. Unlike the Ukrainians, they did not even come up with a different name. Belorussians. Literally, they are White Russians. And in the Russian Federation lived Velikorusy. That is, the Great Russians. And the inhabitants of Ukraine (Little Russia) are called Malorusy, that is, Little Russians.
Divided the Russian people into 3 parts in the 1920s, the Trotskyists internationalists in the USSR. They were afraid of the power of the united Russian people. But even now you will not see any difference between the inhabitants of Brest, Minsk, Kiev, Odessa, Moscow and Vladivostok. But in Lvov, another ethnic group is Galicians. Here they are really Ukrainians. They are very different from the inhabitants of Kiev in language, culture, religion and mentality.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 15:56

https://www.belstat.gov.by/en/perepis-n ... insk-city/

According to this official 11-yo source, around 70% of the people in Belarus speak Russian at home, while around 30% speak Belarussian.

"Russian, Rusyn, Ukrainian, and Belarusian are all mutually intelligible, effectively forming a dialect continuum"
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 16:16

All Slavic languages are similar. I can read text and understand at least 50% of words in any Slavic language.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 17:01

You can understand 100%, because in Minsk, Brest, Kiev and Odessa they speak the Russian literary language.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 17:15

the same happens with Latin languages, they are the same family. Dialect continuum means: "is a spread of language varieties spoken across some geographical area such that neighboring varieties differ only slightly, but the differences accumulate over distance so that widely separated varieties may not be mutually intelligible".

What produces languages and restricts them are the national states.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 18:02

Our situation is different. From Brest to Vladivostok, we all speak the same Russian language. Generally no differences. Slight differences may be in remote rural areas. Perhaps this is because before the creation of the USSR, 90% of the population of Russia did not know how to read and write. Under Stalin, there was a powerful education program. In a short time, the entire population of the USSR received a high-level free education. And the education system was a single centralized one. Therefore, we do not have dialects as in Germany or Italy. Although the territory is huge.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 18:10

STMKY wrote:Our situation is different. From Brest to Vladivostok, we all speak the same Russian language. Generally no differences. Slight differences may be in remote rural areas. Perhaps this is because before the creation of the USSR, 90% of the population of Russia did not know how to read and write. Under Stalin, there was a powerful education program. In a short time, the entire population of the USSR received a high-level free education. And the education system was a single centralized one. Therefore, we do not have dialects as in Germany or Italy. Although the territory is huge.

The more or less uniformity of a language is not unique to any country. Brazil or USA are also huge and don't have dialects either. Just small accent variations. Dialects are different from accents. The modern State made languages more "stable", unifying them as a political and economical tool. The widespread of formal education and access to the press since the 19th century too. Or the opposite, to re-enforme a nationality by making the language properly different in this dialect continuum.

The "dialect continuum" of North Slavic languages or of any other language family is the product of centuries.

A map of the many "dialect continuum" families in Europe:

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