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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby mcruic » Sat, 13 Oct 2018, 16:40

Yes - Netherlands 33-10 Sweden full-time apparently.
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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby johnbirch » Sat, 13 Oct 2018, 19:27

Confirmed that Netherlands v Sweden was a "training game" and not a test match.

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 18 Oct 2018, 08:13

johnbirch wrote:Confirmed that Netherlands v Sweden was a "training game" and not a test match.


Maybe somebody can enlight me, what the sense with that is. I honestly have no idea. Two absolutely amateur sides play each other, but why on earth don't they make it a full test?
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Postby rey200 » Thu, 18 Oct 2018, 08:54

because it would affect the World Rankings. And you just don't do that!
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Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 18 Oct 2018, 09:45

You are right. What a crazy thing to do, to have more than one or two ranking games per year. Stupid me.

Back from sarcasm, now serious: why on earth?
It's women's 15s. Not many people apart from the one's directly involved care about it. Why bother to make a difference? To not create something you could use for promotion?
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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby Canalina » Fri, 19 Oct 2018, 05:42

Is this poster a bit unfair? I know that men's rugby is more popular and more played and that rugby is born as a men sport, but these are two equal events (same tournament, same opponent) and the choice to write the women's fixture with a smaller font screeches a bit

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Postby sjbret » Fri, 19 Oct 2018, 09:19

I think it's a false trial, even if you are theoretically right.
When we know that Women's Trophy exists only thanks to the obstinacy of the Swiss federation, it's already a good thing that the announcement of the women match appears so high in the poster with a women player's photo while in France or in England, it would doubtless appear at best only at the foot of the poster.

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby Canalina » Tue, 23 Oct 2018, 06:16

Both Italy v Scotland (4/11) and Italy v South Africa (25/11) will be live on italian federation platform (website, facebook, youtube)

https://www.federugby.it/index.php?opti ... 11&lang=it

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Postby TheStroBro » Tue, 23 Oct 2018, 15:44

Canalina I think that the graphic designer jus sucks...

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby Canalina » Sun, 28 Oct 2018, 16:16

Germany v Czech Rep. 25-0

https://www.facebook.com/CzechWomensRugby/

I doubt it will be recorded by World Rugby, it doesn't appear on their fixtures

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby johnbirch » Sun, 28 Oct 2018, 21:31

Canalina wrote:Germany v Czech Rep. 25-0

https://www.facebook.com/CzechWomensRugby/

I doubt it will be recorded by World Rugby, it doesn't appear on their fixtures

Disappointingly you are probably right. I wonder - is there a cost reason? Is there some minimum WR requirement for an official test match which makes it easier and cheaper - especially for small nations - to call the games "development internationals" instead?

It cannot just be about wanting to hang onto ranking points, surely?

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby Canalina » Wed, 31 Oct 2018, 14:11

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpmZfPHFVGP/

Translation
The result of the game
Khorasan Razavi 19 Ibnus Alborz 5
DATIS 45 girls in Shiraz 0

Fifteen Ladies


It still surprises me than in Iran they play XV. We accused them to censure women rugby but they seem more advanced in this matter than many nations more rugby-oriented

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby johnbirch » Wed, 31 Oct 2018, 19:01

johnbirch wrote:
Canalina wrote:Germany v Czech Rep. 25-0

https://www.facebook.com/CzechWomensRugby/

I doubt it will be recorded by World Rugby, it doesn't appear on their fixtures

Disappointingly you are probably right. I wonder - is there a cost reason? Is there some minimum WR requirement for an official test match which makes it easier and cheaper - especially for small nations - to call the games "development internationals" instead?

It cannot just be about wanting to hang onto ranking points, surely?

More on the status of this game. The Czechs defintely awarded caps, and treated it as a test, and the Germans apparently did likewise. But the DRV (German Union) neglected to apply for test status from World Rugby. So make of it what you will.

I am left wondering if the DRV would have forgotten to apply for test status for one of their men's games.

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby Canalina » Wed, 31 Oct 2018, 19:47

Again about Iran, a good series of images from the XV tournament mentioned above (four teams)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpmxtXGFbID/

(click on the arrow on the right to scroll)

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 31 Oct 2018, 20:22

Spain will hold a training camp with Northumberland next December in Newcastle:
https://twitter.com/shsrugbytours/statu ... 0556754944

FER schedule originally marked this as a game against 'Northumberland Barbarians'.

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby Canalina » Thu, 01 Nov 2018, 14:33

Link for Italy v Scotland (sunday 13.45 CET)


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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby Canalina » Fri, 02 Nov 2018, 05:55

Good news from Oceania, there will be a Oceania XV Championship in the second half of november with Fiji, Samoa, Tonga and Papua Guinea. It's a round robin, so six matches

https://www.radionz.co.nz/international ... sina-squad

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby Canalina » Sat, 03 Nov 2018, 07:23

Historic count (test matches won-loss) by the four Oceania Championship nations

Samoa 10-13 (they defeated also Wales and Ireland, and trice Kazakhstan)
Fiji 2-3 (defeated Tonga, PNG; loss with Samoa, Hong Kong, Japan)
Tonga 0-2 (versus Fiji and Samoa, but twelve years ago)
Papua N Guinea 0-1 (versus Fiji)

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby NedRugby » Sat, 03 Nov 2018, 14:14

Netherlands v France Military; 17 November 2018 at 16:00

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby Canalina » Sun, 04 Nov 2018, 13:05

Italy v Scotland 19-0 at the middle of first half. Total dominium by Italy so far, unexpected to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlKGT4TElFo

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby Canalina » Sun, 04 Nov 2018, 16:39

FT: 38-0

Three tries by Michela Sillari, one each by Valentina Ruzza, Ilaria Arrighetti and Giordana Duca.
Three new debutants for Italy: Benedetta Mancini, Francesca Sberna (both already in the 7s national team) and Camilla Sarasso (never in a national team, as far as I know).
Total dominion by Italy, apart some spare moments with two tries saved at the last second by Sillari.
Definitively I didn't expect a so large gap

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby rey200 » Mon, 05 Nov 2018, 10:37

is the Pacific stuff for real? If it is, PNG will be the only team that plays female XV while not playing the XV male format.

le: at least the Italian Women's team seems to improve ;)
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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby Canalina » Mon, 05 Nov 2018, 11:58

rey200 wrote:le: at least the Italian Women's team seems to improve ;)

I don't know how much of that 38-0 is by virtue of Italy and how much by weakness of Scotland, so it's too early to talk about real improvement in my opinion. Scotland game seemed very poor, but maybe the a-tempo and aggressive italian defense had a role in it.
The best aspect is that our national team seems loved. Rugby is a minor sport in Italy and women's rugby even more, but these girls were able to reach their own dimension in the fans vision; they are no more "oh, look, women playing rugby! So weird!", they are a group known and loved by the rugby fans, even if the ratio between italian WNT fans and french ones is maybe 1/10 (there were just around 800 spectators in Calvisano, I think). It must be nice for Furlan, Barattin and their fellows to be recognized by the fans and appreciated, even if a professional dimension for women rugby in Italy seems still very far

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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 06 Nov 2018, 11:45

johnbirch wrote:I am left wondering if the DRV would have forgotten to apply for test status for one of their men's games.


The women are, by their own choice, organized in the DRF (Deutsche Rugby-Frauen) a single entitiy within the DRV. So without knowing any details, that's where to look first for the mistake not the DRV itself who organizes the men's matches.
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Re: Womens XVs Rugby - Global news & Developments

Postby Canalina » Tue, 06 Nov 2018, 12:15

Oceania Championship fixtures, from http://www.scrumqueens.com/news/fiji-ho ... 7s-and-15s

Friday 16 November
Papua New Guinea v Samoa, 1.00pm
Fiji v Tonga, 3.00pm

Tuesday 20 November
Samoa v Tonga, 1.00pm
Fiji v Papua New Guinea, 3.00pm

Saturday 24 November
Papua New Guinea v Tonga, 1.00pm
Fiji v Samoa, 3.00pm

Fiji are GMT+13, so the games will start exactly at midnight in London and at 1 AM in central Europe

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