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Re: Last countries without rugby

Unread postby victorsra » Tue, 19 May 2020, 04:31

In rugby, Matt Banahan is from Jersey and played for England recently. But I coudn't find a Guernsey player.

The only Manx player that played for a Home Nation is Neil Bennett (7 caps with England in the 1970s). But there was Manx another player, Alfred Peter Penketh, that played in the 1888 British Lions (actualy British Isles, because "Lions" wasn't the name at that time). He is the only Manx that played for the British Isles, but never played for any of the Home Nations. No Jersey/Guernsey players ever played for the Lions.
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Re: Last countries without rugby

Unread postby Canalina » Tue, 19 May 2020, 06:14

Side curiosity: the isle of Man and the isle of Sicily have a similar symbol, three legs fused together and forming a sort of rotating star

Man https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... nn.svg.png
Sicily https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... n_Flag.svg

And by chance the most famous ever three-legged man was Francesco Lentini, from Sicily
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lentini

The symbol of Sicily should refer to the three geographical capes of the island (it's a sort of triangle), but that's not completely sure.
The origin of the symbol of Man is for some searchers obscure, while other say it was there transported by the Normans after they conquered Sicily

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Unread postby Canalina » Thu, 21 May 2020, 21:24

Cambodia is currently not part of World Rugby nor of Asia Rugby but it seems rugby activity, even if on little scale, never stopped there. Probably the Cambodia Federation was expelled by Asia Rugby due to some misconduct and not due to absence of activity.

A video from January announcing that the national (7s) championship 2020 would have started in February
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEvQp9_LgHI

A nice video with several dozens of kids playing rugby, but the video is from five years ago and the title said "Rugby struggles to survive"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP5IXL_5tj4

An article from some months ago saying that Hanuman RC won the national (7s) title 2019
http://www.sportpage.asia/hanuman-rfc%E ... 9-winners/

An article from last summer about the departure of the Cambodian Police Select for the World Police & Fire Games, where Cambodia will win the bronze medal behind Italy Firefighters and Paris Firefighters
http://www.camsports.org/other-sports/46650.html

The fb pages of the Cambodian Federation, of Hanuman RC and of the Interior Ministry Rugby team (respectively classified 1st and 2nd in the last national championship)
https://www.facebook.com/CambodiaRugby/
https://www.facebook.com/hanumanrugbyclub/
https://www.facebook.com/pg/សមាគមកីឡាបាល់ឱប-នៃអង្គភាពកីឡានគរបាលជាតិកម្ពុជា-1132218283620057/

The rugby situation in Cambodia seems not so brilliant as in Laos but better than in Myanmar; a good aspect is that most of the players are local, while in the web pages of Myanmar rugby clubs you see almost only western and japanese players.
Cambodia last played in 2017 SEA Games, finishing 5th in men's 7s competition ahead of Indonesia. In 2023 the SEA Games will be hosted by Cambodia itself and that is currently the big aim of local rugby. I wonder if they have to regain the Asia Rugby membership to have the permit to take part to the SEA Games?

In khmer language "rugby" is said "bal aob": bal meaning ball and aob meaning hug

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Unread postby victorsra » Thu, 21 May 2020, 23:42

And better than Vietnam, which isn't Asia Rugby member
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Re: Last countries without rugby

Unread postby Canalina » Sat, 23 May 2020, 19:13

Asia Rugby organized a series of online workshops divided by geographical area. The one of Central Asia saw the participation of representers from Kazakhstan, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan. The absence of Turkmenistan and Tajikistan, despite the meeting was on line so without costs, seems confirming that in those countries the presence of rugby is very little (Tajikistan) or maybe null (Turkmenistan)
https://www.facebook.com/asia.rugby/pho ... =3&theater

By the way, the South Asia workshop was attended by representers of Bangladesh, India, Nepal, Pakistan and Sri Lanka

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Unread postby sk 88 » Sat, 23 May 2020, 21:35

Chester-Donnelly wrote:
victorsra wrote:Guernsey RFC was promoted to the English National League 2, now 2 divisions below Jersey Reds. That's cool, in fact, that the Channel Islands are represented in the English system. Isle of Man also have clubs there, the best one is Douglas RUFC, in the North West 1, 2 division below Nat League 2.

I searched this because I saw interesting news that Isle of Man has now a football club (FC Isle of Man) created to represent the island in the English football system, starting in the 10th division. It would be interesting there was a whole-island representative team.

Guernsey and Jersey are already in the English football system as well. Guernsey FC plays the English 8th division and Jersey FC was promoted to the 9th division. So, both are better in rugby.


Interestingly both channel Islands have produced an England footballer; Matt Le Tissier from Guernsey and Graham Le Saux from Jersey. I like their Norman surnames. I wonder if they can speak their Norman French dialects. It is a perculiar rule that a footballer from one of the three Crown Dependencies qualifies to play for any of the "home nations" national teams. This makes more sense for Isle of Man footballers than it does for Channel Islanders, because Isle of Man is more or less in the middle between Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales.



I think Budge Poutney qualified for Scotland on the basis of one Channel Island born grandparent.

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Unread postby Chester-Donnelly » Sat, 23 May 2020, 22:16

sk 88 wrote:
Chester-Donnelly wrote:
victorsra wrote:Guernsey RFC was promoted to the English National League 2, now 2 divisions below Jersey Reds. That's cool, in fact, that the Channel Islands are represented in the English system. Isle of Man also have clubs there, the best one is Douglas RUFC, in the North West 1, 2 division below Nat League 2.

I searched this because I saw interesting news that Isle of Man has now a football club (FC Isle of Man) created to represent the island in the English football system, starting in the 10th division. It would be interesting there was a whole-island representative team.

Guernsey and Jersey are already in the English football system as well. Guernsey FC plays the English 8th division and Jersey FC was promoted to the 9th division. So, both are better in rugby.


Interestingly both channel Islands have produced an England footballer; Matt Le Tissier from Guernsey and Graham Le Saux from Jersey. I like their Norman surnames. I wonder if they can speak their Norman French dialects. It is a perculiar rule that a footballer from one of the three Crown Dependencies qualifies to play for any of the "home nations" national teams. This makes more sense for Isle of Man footballers than it does for Channel Islanders, because Isle of Man is more or less in the middle between Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales.



I think Budge Poutney qualified for Scotland on the basis of one Channel Island born grandparent.


Wow, that is such a weird rule. That is definitely a loophole.

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Unread postby Canalina » Sun, 24 May 2020, 16:24

Le président d’Asia Rugby, Qais Al Dhalai, a indiqué que l'Asie allait prochainement passer de 31 à 34 syndicats membres. Les pays probables: Tadjikistan et Cambodge. Le dernier? Les 13 autres pays restants à l'heure actuelle n'ont pas de fédération.


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Re: Last countries without rugby

Unread postby victorsra » Sun, 24 May 2020, 17:51

31 to 34 means 3 new... Maybe Vietnam? They talked about it recently... There are also clubs in Kuwait, Bahrein and Oman, plus organisations in Iraq and Palestine, as both countries played the Arab 7s... Many options.
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Re: Last countries without rugby

Unread postby Canalina » Sun, 24 May 2020, 18:33

I would bet on Iraq or Palestine

A new page about rugby in Iraq
www.facebook.com/لجنة-الركبي-العراقي-328230514713658/

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Unread postby Canalina » Mon, 25 May 2020, 08:47

Maybe it will be known just at the end of june, after the second congress of the year that should be hosted in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan.
Theoretically the "lockdown" of the asian rugby should end at the end of this week

https://www.asiarugby.com/calendar-2020/

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