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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 14:12

I don't like this operation very much. I won't be supporting this.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby victorsra » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 14:14

Lets do the operation "find a decent Russian rugby poster". One that knows a bit more about anything than a pre-teenager. One not embarrassing.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby STMKY » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 14:53

Why don't you like this operation? If Super Rugby and PRO14 don't want to see Cheetahs and Kings. On the contrary, Russia offers a profitable joint project.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby RugbyLiebe » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 15:00

victorsra wrote:Lets do the operation "find a decent Russian rugby poster". One that knows a bit more about anything than a pre-teenager. One not embarrassing.


Why? He hasn't mentioned the Hawaii Gilwodkas for at least a month :lol:
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 15:40

STMKY wrote:Why don't you like this operation? If Super Rugby and PRO14 don't want to see Cheetahs and Kings. On the contrary, Russia offers a profitable joint project.


I welcome the move away from transcontinental rugby championships (such as Super Rugby) and the development of sustainable localised professional leagues, with end of season tournaments or Heineken Cup type competitions. South Africa should have its own Premiership, with the top 2 teams qualifying for the Super Rugby Championship, and the others playing in the "Rainbow Cup". Hopefully a sponsor would replace that gay name.
Russia is doing all the right things. It just needs to keep doing it. I would have liked to have seen a Kontinental Rugby Liga but I don't think it needs that. The Russian Premier League is good.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby Canalina » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 17:45

Italian newspapers write that according to the german doctors Navalny has probably been poisoned.
If this will result true, I think Russia should be expelled from sport or at least not awarded with major events for many many years

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby victorsra » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 17:49

STMKY wrote:Why don't you like this operation? If Super Rugby and PRO14 don't want to see Cheetahs and Kings. On the contrary, Russia offers a profitable joint project.

Are you seriously proposing this?

Man, start following rugby.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby victorsra » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 17:52

Why? He hasn't mentioned the Hawaii Gilwodkas for at least a month

:lol:

The idea now is to have Hawaii Gilwodkas moving to Norilsk and becoming the Norilsk Giloils.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby STMKY » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 17:53

Why are you pulling political propaganda here? In Russia, Navalny is just an idiot who works for the Western intelligence services. He is supported by a maximum of 2% of the liberal marginals. He is nobody.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby victorsra » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 18:02

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH because the Russian posters never post political shit here! :roll:

We need a better sort of poster, that doens't embarass himfself publicly.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby victorsra » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 18:11

Anyway, the moronic Cheetahs-Kings relocation idea can be transformed into a much better one that is: how good can be international partnerships for professional clubs in emerging nations?

I think Malaysia did the Falcons partnership in a not so good way, but indeed we could see MLR and Russian Premier League clubs, for exemple, partnering with Super Rugby/Top14/Premiership/PRO14 sides. That in fact already is happening in MLR and in Russia VVA has (or had, not sure if they still have) a partneship with the Saracens. However, Saracens' global partnerships (with like a dozen clubs in emerging nations) never realy frutified. Or at least I struggle to see what were the benefits.

There are two major questions:

- What a T1 club wins with it? Get new players (not enough)? Get money (if a Russian club PAYS to use the name or, at least, splits revenues.. definitly utopic for now)?
- What the emerging nation club wins? The name is useless, honestly, because rugby clubs are not important brands worlwide. It is not like Manchester City global network. What interests is players/coaches from T1s.

We are yet to see a T1-T2 club partnership becoming a realy good thing. But that's an opportunity in the air that could be better worked, definitly.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 18:13

victorsra wrote:
Why? He hasn't mentioned the Hawaii Gilwodkas for at least a month

:lol:

The idea now is to have Hawaii Gilwodkas moving to Norilsk and becoming the Norilsk Giloils.

NORILSK IS A GOOD CITY! They will love it!

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby victorsra » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 18:15

:lol:

Norilsk Cheetahs vs Yakutsk Kings. I'm looking forward to watch it. Ruck in the permafrost with oil.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 18:19

South coast of Arctic Ocean! What could be better! Hurry up to buy land for yoursel , land is free!

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby Tobar » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 18:28

victorsra wrote:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH because the Russian posters never post political shit here! :roll:

We need a better sort of poster, that doens't embarass himfself publicly.


Of course we all know that they do not post politics here. They are just refuting the LGBT western mafia secret operation that is trying to destroy Mother Russia from the outside.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 18:34

Canalina wrote:Italian newspapers write that according to the german doctors Navalny has probably been poisoned.
If this will result true, I think Russia should be expelled from sport or at least not awarded with major events for many many years

Listen! If we are so bad why cant Putin poison anyone to death!
It just outrages me!

We must earn right to be called Evil Empire! :D
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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 18:38

And best of all take your paid whores from here so as not to create problems for anyone.
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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby STMKY » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 19:09

See what the Russians want.
For 5 years, Enisey and Krasny Yar have played 36 games in the Challenge Cup. That is, with teams from the 1st echelon. But even such a small number of games is now impossible. Russian clubs are not needed by strong international leagues. Neither the EPCR, nor GRR, nor the Japanese TL. What to do? Where Russians play with top teams to increase our level? Russians have money.
And in South Africa, on the contrary, there are problems with money. Valke has already gone bankrupt. Cheetahs and Kings were first excluded from Super Rugby, now they want to be excluded from PRO14. The Russians propose a partial move to Russia. What will it give the Russians?
Their 10 PRO clubs will play at least 4 games annually against teams from the 1st tier. The level of games is comparable to the Challenge Cup. That's 40 games a year + playoff games. For 5 years, this is more than 200 games! Compare the numbers 36 and over 200.
Also, annually, 20 young Russian players (U23) will be inside South African rugby while on loan in Cheetahs and Kings. Then they will return to their Russian clubs. In 5 years, 100 Russian players will go through this program!
Yes, they will have to change the name in Russia. You cannot name the team Spartak Melbourne or Dinamo Pretoria. It's the same in Russia. Cheetahs Saransk and Kings Sochi sounds absolutely absurd.
But that doesn't mean Cheetahs and Kings will disappear. The remaining players will play in Currie Cup and other SA competitions.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 20:17

Personally l think that we need to have as little business as possible with either Europe and rugby Europe.
Fortunately Russia is not Libya or Yugoslavia and we can afford to send Europe in ass.
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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby victorsra » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 20:19

STMKY, you are so full of fantasies because you don't know international rugby or sports industry at all. I wish I could trust whatever you say about Russian rugby, but it is just not possible, sounds a teenager having fun with lunacies. About Russian domestic rugby, Asian Vova is more reliable, even with so much Asia-talk without knowing Asian rugby at all :lol: .

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby Tobar » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 22:39

Vova12 wrote:Personally l think that we need to have as little business as possible with either Europe and rugby Europe.
Fortunately Russia is not Libya or Yugoslavia and we can afford to send Europe in ass.


What does “send Europe in ass” mean? Are you sending Europe somewhere in an ass? Are you sending an ass to Europe? I’m confused.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby victorsra » Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 23:06

I think he has an ass and wants to send it to Europe, although he's already in Moscow.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby STMKY » Tue, 25 Aug 2020, 06:43

It is you who stayed in the middle of the 20th century. You just don't see how rugby is changing. Any options are possible if you have the money. Look at Japan. Look at the joint projects of Malaysia and China with Valke and Bay of Plenty. It's not their fault that the GRR was canceled due to a pseudo-virus. Russia is already comparable to Japan in terms of rugby money. Therefore, he can afford such projects.

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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 25 Aug 2020, 08:19

victorsra wrote:I think he has an ass and wants to send it to Europe, although he's already in Moscow.

Moscow was one of 10 best cities in world and Europe will soon be like Africa.
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Re: Increase the RWC to 24 teams

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 25 Aug 2020, 08:28

https://www.bestcities.org/rankings/worlds-best-cities/

But of course its ridiculous to compare clean and safe Moscow with NY or Paris ...
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