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2017-18 Continental Shield

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Sun, 28 Jul 2019, 10:08

Dziękuję Ci, GREG

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Sun, 28 Jul 2019, 11:07

Grzegorz B. wrote:In the menu on the EPCR website, Continental Shield has also been removed.

Has there ever been an official statement about Shield's abandon, even just a line in the middle of an article?
I suppose not

It could remain in the history as the only european trophy never won by an european team... the only two gold&silver shields awarded (2017 and 2018) were won by Enisei Krasnoyarsk, technically an asian club

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 28 Jul 2019, 13:20

Probably EPCR believes that Asia begins east of France ...
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Sun, 28 Jul 2019, 14:45

Vova12 wrote:Probably EPCR believes that Asia begins east of France ...


Nope but Krasnoyarsk is situated in Asia. Thats a fact. . .

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 28 Jul 2019, 14:54

Rugby in Europe is discrimination secondtier countries , it is strange that this is not noticeable from Tbilisi ...
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Grzegorz B. » Sun, 28 Jul 2019, 17:58

Canalina wrote:Has there ever been an official statement about Shield's abandon, even just a line in the middle of an article?
I suppose not


I haven't seen. Maybe we'll find one sentence or two when they announce new qualification rules for 2020/2021 season...

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 11 Oct 2019, 19:00

FER told Spanish clubs this weeks that Rugby Europe intends to launch a continental league in 2020-21:
https://www.revista22.es/2019/10/la-lnr ... -de-honor/

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby armchair_expert » Thu, 31 Oct 2019, 19:19

Clubs will qualify for the 2020/21 Challenge Cup in the following ways:

The remaining 18 clubs from the PRO14, Premiership and the TOP 14 which have not qualified for the Heineken Champions Cup. (NB South African clubs are not eligible.)
A further two clubs will be invited from the Italian TOP12 and from representatives of emerging countries.

https://www.epcrugby.com/challenge-cup/ ... ification/

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 31 Oct 2019, 19:28

So wild cards without a tournament. I imagine it will depend on sponsors.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Tobar » Thu, 31 Oct 2019, 20:13

With the way the CS had been run it’s better to just plant the top teams from Russia, Spain, Romania, etc then to have the CS at all. Some of the better teams opted out for financial reasons and unless they’re playing in a weekly competition it doesn’t really make sense either. They won’t be good enough to take on the challenge cup anyway so might as well save some money.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 31 Oct 2019, 20:27

Well, we've got no guarantee there will be the top teams from T2 countries. It could very well be two Italian teams. Or an Italian team and another one from a country where they've got commercial interests.

But see three messages above, Rugby Europe seems to have something in hands for next season.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 07 Nov 2019, 15:19

It seems that organizers will invite team T2 at its discretion.
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 08 Nov 2019, 10:50

Yes, i was not mistaken! Only ticket will not be determined in a fair fight, but will be determined by assholes from EPCR!
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 08 Nov 2019, 10:53

In European rugby there is no sporting principle in both national team tournament and club tournament.
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 08 Nov 2019, 10:56

Yenisei has 5 victories in Сhallenge cup, Yar has one victory, despite fact that teams play in off season without playing practice, but this does not mean anything.
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Re: Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Thu, 12 Dec 2019, 16:40

Is this a sort of revamping Continental Shield? Or something a bit different? The name is Continental Club Rugby League.
Russian Federation just published this, explaining that the competition will start in April 2020 with 8 teams: four from Russia and four from other federations, with the aim to expand year by year.
I suppose that in the first edition all the clubs will be from Eastern Europe


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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Thu, 12 Dec 2019, 16:41

I arrived a bit late, there's already a thread

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 12 Dec 2019, 16:43

Sorry.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Thu, 12 Dec 2019, 16:47

No, no, it deserves its own thread

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Tue, 16 Jun 2020, 13:19

FIR chairman: "next season no one italian Top12 team will take part to the Challenge Cup, EPCR sent us a letter communicating that" :(

https://www.ilgazzettino.it/nordest/rov ... 89533.html
https://www.oasport.it/2020/06/rugby-ch ... mo-torneo/

The decision has been taken by EPCR "considering the abnormal situation of this season", but I can't see a relationship between the epidemic emergency and the necessity to cut off the italian championship teams.
The italian chairman said also that he wants to reduce from 4 to 3 the foreign players that every Top12 club may field

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 16 Jun 2020, 13:36

Two reasons: they don't even now formats for next season so it is easier to find a compromise with less leagues involved and semipro clubs will have more problems to test their players regularly than fully pro setups.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Wed, 02 Sep 2020, 10:22

https://www.epcrugby.com/2020/09/02/new ... 21-season/

No teams outside of the Premiership, Top 14 and Pro 14 are involved.

I like the format.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby victorsra » Wed, 02 Sep 2020, 15:36

I couldn't see how Challenge Cup will work.

2 groups of 7, only 4 matches? Is that possible mathematically? I mean, each group would have 3 French, 2 PRO14 and 2 English sides. For exemple, each Engllsh club would play 2 PRO14 and 2 French clubs, but the 3 French clubs should play all 4 English/PRO14 clubs... there is something wrong, right?

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Wed, 02 Sep 2020, 16:13

victorsra wrote:I couldn't see how Challenge Cup will work.

2 groups of 7, only 4 matches? Is that possible mathematically? I mean, each group would have 3 French, 2 PRO14 and 2 English sides. For exemple, each Engllsh club would play 2 PRO14 and 2 French clubs, but the 3 French clubs should play all 4 English/PRO14 clubs... there is something wrong, right?


I don't understand that either. I like the format of the Champions Cup, but I don't understand the Challenge Cup and I'm not happy no tier 2 teams were included. I would have liked to have seen Enisei or Krasny Yar and an Italian team or Bucuresti Wolves involved.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby CraigChalmers » Wed, 02 Sep 2020, 16:14

victorsra wrote:I couldn't see how Challenge Cup will work.

2 groups of 7, only 4 matches? Is that possible mathematically? I mean, each group would have 3 French, 2 PRO14 and 2 English sides. For exemple, each Engllsh club would play 2 PRO14 and 2 French clubs, but the 3 French clubs should play all 4 English/PRO14 clubs... there is something wrong, right?


Only one group of 14.. Not that that makes it any clearer how this is supposed to work.

The format is farcical - there must be a better format than competing in a pool of 12 where you only actually play 2 other teams! And far too much importance is being placed on seeding from last seasons leagues for a year when 2 of the leagues only played 2/3rds of their season.

Or alternatively, if we had just done the sensible thing and not insisted on finishing last season, all 3 leagues + european cups could be looking forward to the first weekend of a 'normal' (in terms of format at least) season right now. But why wreck one season when can wreck two, right?

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