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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Mon, 02 Mar 2020, 15:48

Krasnoyarsk teams in GRR is a madcap idea. But a game between a Krasnoyarsk team and South China Tigers is something that could happen if there is ever direct flights established between Krasnoyarsk and Hong Kong. And if it was played in Siberia it wouldn't be played in the winter so no frozen tundra to worry about.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Mon, 02 Mar 2020, 16:07

Kontinental Rugby League with an East conference and a West conference is a much more realistic proposition, similar to the KHL.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby STMKY » Mon, 02 Mar 2020, 16:45

victorsra wrote:Is there a link for the flights? I can't find anything better than a dozen hours.

Read carefully. Aeroflot made Krasnoyarsk its main hub in Asia. And they announced plans from 2020 to open direct flights from Krasnoyarsk to China and Southeast Asia.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby STMKY » Mon, 02 Mar 2020, 16:48

Edgar wrote:You'd have to go through Moscow and Australia or Japan and New Zealand or something to get to the Pacific Islands, which would take a few days, so you might as well just base the teams Down Under and play out of Sydney or something. Not to mention the expense. So, sure, if you have some Russian billionaires waiting in the wings to throw money at Sydney-based Russian teams, go ahead.

But travel is only one side of the issue, and the other is probably more of an obstacle. Russian rugby isn't remotely up to it and the style I've seen in club games is forward-oriented and not what Southern Hemisphere rugby fans tend to find attractive. & we have developed this style of play due to the firm grounds and sunny conditions Down Under. In New Zealand's case it also has a lot to do with the burgeoning Pacific Island community.

Russian clubs would only ever be able to compete by bringing in top quality foreign talent. So you're looking at teams full of foreigners playing out of Sydney, for example, begging the question: What would be the point of Russian involvement? There is an intent Down Under to look after the game in Oceania and get it up and running in Asia, including China. Not to mention that expressions of interest are already being fielded from within Australia itself.

But Russia is not our problem. It is affiliated to Europe on the far side of the planet and holds zero interest for our fans, while a marathon journey to the frozen tundra of Siberia is probably not top of the players' Bucket list either. Sorry to put it so bluntly. I'm not even sure the Krasnoyarski clubs would be genuinely interested in such a madcap scheme themselves and suspect some just want to generate rumors to spite the Muscovites.

So you opened yourself. ;) And how well he pretended. I won’t even argue. Just apply your arguments to the teams of Hong Kong, Shanghai and Malaysia.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Mon, 02 Mar 2020, 17:56

Malaysia Valke and Shanghai are not real teams so I don't include these. When GRR season ends the entire team will return to South Africa and New Zealand. But Hong Kong can be a real team, in the same way as Sunwolves is. The Kontinental Rugby League should be played in September and October. The Western Conference can be a single round robin of the top Romanian and European Russian teams. The Eastern Conference can be a double round robin of the Krasnoyarsk teams and Hong Kong. Then the winner of each conference meet in the final in Moscow.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby thatrugbyguy » Tue, 03 Mar 2020, 00:10

I doubt even GGR knows exactly what its future will look like, what teams they'll have and where they are located. It's still very much in its early beginnings.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Thesjhughes » Tue, 03 Mar 2020, 00:48

just an update on China Lions to their home games will be played in Adelaide
games.
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/commun ... jpg.11329/
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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Tue, 03 Mar 2020, 00:49

Triple header at ANZ stadium, Suva, Saturday 14th March.
World Rugby Pacific Challenge final round.
12.30 Samoa A vs Tonga A
3.30pm Fiji Warriors vs Junior Japan

Global Rapid Rugby first round
6.15pm Fijian Latui vs BoP China Lions

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Tue, 03 Mar 2020, 02:28

A noticeable difference between GRR 2019 and GRR 2020 is the number of Tongans. In 2019 there were a lot of Tongans in the Kagifa Samoa team and in the Asia Pacific Dragons. This year there is no Asia Pacific Dragons and the Samoa team is just Samoans. In RWC2019 four of the Tonga 31 man squad were selected from GRR teams. So where are they now?
Hooker, Sosefo Sakalia of Asia Pacific Dragons is now playing for Peñarol, Uruguay in SLAR
From Kagifa Samoa:
Fly half, Latiume Fosita is playing for Selknam, Chile in SLAR.
Loose forward, Fotu Lokotui is playing for Doncaster Knights in the English Championship.
Scrum half, Leon Fukofuka is playing for Ampthill in the English Championship.
With English Championship funding being slashed over the next two seasons it seems likely that Lokotui and Fukofuka will have to move again.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby victorsra » Tue, 03 Mar 2020, 03:08

STMKY wrote:
victorsra wrote:Is there a link for the flights? I can't find anything better than a dozen hours.

Read carefully. Aeroflot made Krasnoyarsk its main hub in Asia. And they announced plans from 2020 to open direct flights from Krasnoyarsk to China and Southeast Asia.


Oh, so there are no 4h-flights now? Just a plan?
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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby STMKY » Tue, 03 Mar 2020, 06:01

victorsra wrote:
STMKY wrote:
victorsra wrote:Is there a link for the flights? I can't find anything better than a dozen hours.

Read carefully. Aeroflot made Krasnoyarsk its main hub in Asia. And they announced plans from 2020 to open direct flights from Krasnoyarsk to China and Southeast Asia.


Oh, so there are no 4h-flights now? Just a plan?

And now is the 2021 season and GRR has expanded to 8 or 10 teams? Not. These are also plans so far. Therefore, you need to consider all plans in dynamics.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Thesjhughes » Thu, 05 Mar 2020, 03:56

Received an email from China lions

China Lions Rugby
05 March 2020
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MEDIA RELEASE | Rugby revolution hits the Bay of Plenty
China Lions head coach Mike Rogers says his side is excited about the challenge of creating rugby history.

After weeks of training, the side will play a preseason warmup match against Manuma Samoa at Blake Park, Mount Maunganui, New Zealand, at 3pm on Saturday.

The China Lions has named a strong line up for the game against Manuma, and the side is looking to play an action-packed brand of rugby.


“The competition in this format has never been played before and it’s basically going to be a race to see who can adapt quickly to the rules, who can come out with strategies around playing in different locations and countries.”

Entry into Saturday’s game is free and Rogers says with the new rules, he expects the game will be a fast moving, high scoring and always entertaining spectacle, that will have rugby fans on the edge of their seats.

The creation of the China Lions is the result of an exciting joint venture between China Rugby Football Association and Bay Rugby. The Lions will compete against Australia’s Western Force, the Malaysia Valke representing both Malaysia and South Africa, Fijian Latui, Manuma Samoa and the Hong Kong China Tigers in an inaugural home and away competition.

The historic first season sees 30 games, 10 rounds, and one grand final on Saturday June 7 for the top two teams of the 10 rounds. The competition officially gets underway on March 14, with the China Lions taking on Fijian Latui at ANZ Stadium, Fiji at 6.15pm (local time).

China Lions Team:
1. Solomona Sakalia
2. Nic Souchon
3. Tevita Mafileo
4. Hoani Matenga
5. Stan van den Hoven
6. Joe Johnston
7. Kohan Herbert
8. Hugh Blake
9. Te Aihe Toma
10. Dan Hollinshead
11. Fa’asiu Fuatai
12. James Little
13. Mathew Skipwith-Garland
14. Tyler Campbell
15. Pryor Collier

Reserves:
16. Greg Pleasants-Tate
17. Toni Toia
18. Viliami Leo Tosi
19. Haereiti Hetet
20. Iosefa Maloney
21. Ray Tatafu
22. Luke Campbell
23. Liam Coombes-Fabling
24. Dwayne Sweeney
25. Solofa Silipa
26. Declan Barnett

Game Details:
Global Rapid Rugby Season One Pre-season game
China Lions v Manuma Samoa
Saturday March 7
Blake Park, Mount Maunganui, New Zealand
Kick-off 3pm
Free entry

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Raven » Thu, 05 Mar 2020, 10:45

Have all the Chinese been scrapped of the squad because of the Coronavirus? :D

Not even one in a 26-man lineup!

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby victorsra » Thu, 05 Mar 2020, 10:57

STMKY wrote:
victorsra wrote:
STMKY wrote:
victorsra wrote:Is there a link for the flights? I can't find anything better than a dozen hours.

Read carefully. Aeroflot made Krasnoyarsk its main hub in Asia. And they announced plans from 2020 to open direct flights from Krasnoyarsk to China and Southeast Asia.


Oh, so there are no 4h-flights now? Just a plan?

And now is the 2021 season and GRR has expanded to 8 or 10 teams? Not. These are also plans so far. Therefore, you need to consider all plans in dynamics.


So it is a plan based on another plan?
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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Thesjhughes » Thu, 05 Mar 2020, 23:50

China Lions Rugby
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MEDIA RELEASE | Experience leads the way for China Lions
When it came to choosing a captain for the China Lions, head coach Mike Rogers wanted someone who commanded a starting spot, had experience and a keenness to lead.

Hugh Blake epitomises those qualities, he will need it as he leads the side in their preseason warmup match against Manuma Samoa at Blake Park, Mount Maunganui, New Zealand, tomorrow at 3pm (local time).

In just over a week the side will enter into an exciting new version of rugby that is rapid by name and nature, Global Rapid Rugby.

Rogers announced today that Blake was the man to lead his squad in this historic first season of Rapid Rugby.

“When we were looking for a leader, we were really looking for a person who has the normal leadership characteristics, but at the same time he has a real commitment around doing his homework and being really focused.”

The 1.87m and 103kg loose forward is a real powerhouse on the field and uncompromising on defense and attack.

Blake, 27, has an impressive rugby history. He has played more than 30 Mitre 10 Cup matches for the Steamers and played Sevens for Scotland.

Rogers says Blake was unlucky not to be picked up for this season’s Super Rugby, but Super Rugby’s loss is Rapid Rugby’s gain.

“We’d love to see him back playing Super Rugby in the future, but having a guy like that with that level of experience and skills is great for us. So, he’s going to command a starting position and play big minutes for us. He’s demonstrated a level of maturity and a keenness to lead.”

Blake says, he is excited to be taking on the captaincy role this season.

“It’s awesome to be named as captain. I’ve got a few experienced boys in the side, who will no doubt be a massive support. I’m really stoked to be part of this innovative and new competition.”

The captain says the side has come together nicely for the start of Rapid Rugby which officially kicks-off on March 14.

“We have a lot of quality players that have come into the side. So, in terms of training, it’s all been pretty good. There is also an element of the unknown with the new rules. But definitely a fair bit of excitement around in the camp.”

Blake says the warmup match will be a good opportunity to put into practice what the side has been working on.
“I’ve been looking into the Fijian and Samoan sides and they have some high-quality players. There is not going to be any easy games. So, we will need to be ready to adapt, while on the field.”

Global Rapid Rugby Season One Pre-season game
China Lions v Manuma Samoa
Saturday, March 7

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Hinato » Fri, 06 Mar 2020, 16:33

Les South China Tigers signent 5 internationaux hongkongais
https://www.asierugby.com/post/les-sout ... ongkongais

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Hinato » Fri, 06 Mar 2020, 20:25

Effectif 2020 des South China Tigers: 49 joueurs au total dont 35 internationaux hongkongais.
https://www.asierugby.com/south-china-tigers

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Thesjhughes » Sat, 07 Mar 2020, 03:18

And interview with the China Lions coach
https://m.facebook.com/DrivingMaul/vide ... jA1PK&_rdr

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Thesjhughes » Sat, 07 Mar 2020, 07:07

Pre-season ✅

Good hit out today over Manuma Samoa with the China Lions taking the win 42-14!

Now the boys prepare for their first official Global Rapid Rugby game against Fiji next Saturday!



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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Raven » Mon, 09 Mar 2020, 13:21

Hinato wrote:Effectif 2020 des South China Tigers: 49 joueurs au total dont 35 internationaux hongkongais.
https://www.asierugby.com/south-china-tigers


Sad to see the 2 Chinese players had to be released. And gutted that none have been appointed to the China Lions....

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Hinato » Mon, 09 Mar 2020, 13:28

La star malaisienne Marc Le signe chez les Malaysia Valke!
https://www.asierugby.com/post/la-star- ... ysia-valke

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Thesjhughes » Tue, 10 Mar 2020, 06:10

Rapid Rugby broadcast global and free

March 10, 2020

Broadcast details announced today will ensure that Global Rapid Rugby Season One is free-to-view and promotes the sport to a younger, digitally savvy audience right around the world.

A digitally focussed broadcast strategy includes international content aggregator Rugby Pass transmitting and promoting all 31 games of Season One via YouTube on Global Rapid Rugby’s website, rapidrugby.com.

In Australia, popular online provider Kayo Sports will also broadcast all 31 games to a subscription audience of 400,000 sports and entertainment fans. Additionally, Sky Sports will carry games in New Zealand while Fiji Broadcasting Corporation and TV1 Samoa will show matches live.

CEO Mark Evans says growing the game of rugby far and wide was one of the original motivations behind Global Rapid Rugby and its innovative, progressive brand.

“A digital broadcast deal means Rapid Rugby is available anywhere, at any time to anyone,” Evans explained.

“The fast-paced, high scoring, entertaining nature of our competition suits a younger, family audience. Working with Rugby Pass and YouTube gives Rapid Rugby a chance to reach the homes, phones and devices of sports and entertainment fans throughout the Asia Pacific region where the games will be played, and beyond, where the appetite for rugby is huge.

“The support of Fox Sports Australia has also been appreciated. Kayo is a one-stop-shop for sports lovers, so we are hoping to get plenty of eyeballs on that platform as well within our home market.”

· Rapidrugby.com will be the number one destination for Season One matches in 2020
· Worldwide digital provider Rugby Pass will carry all 31 games live and on-demand through its free-to-view YouTube Channel in all regions – excluding New Zealand
· Subscription streaming service Kayo Sports will broadcast all 31 matches live and on-demand in Australia. Subscription TV provider Fox Sports may broadcast some matches live and on replay
· Sky Sports New Zealand will carry all matches with an emphasis on the China Lions, a team featuring players from NZ domestic club Bay Of Plenty
· Fiji Broadcasting Corporation will broadcast games on free-to-air television
· TV1 Samoa will broadcast games on free-to-air television
· World-class broadcast provider Gravity Media will produce the majority of matches

The inaugural Global Rapid Rugby home-and-away season begins this Saturday, March 14, with Fijian Latui hosting the China Lions under lights in Suva, followed by a Double Header in Perth featuring the Western Force, Malaysia Valke, Manuma Samoa and South China Tigers.

Rapid Rugby Season One is played over 10 rounds and 31 games, including a one-off grand final and a total prize pool of AU$1 Million. The competition aims to grow the game of rugby in the APAC region and features innovative new laws that ensure more ball-in-play and reward attacking rugby.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Hinato » Tue, 10 Mar 2020, 12:37

Malaysia Valke: 12 joueurs officiellement connus dont 3 internationaux malaisiens. https://www.asierugby.com/malaysia-valke

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Tobar » Tue, 10 Mar 2020, 14:19

Thesjhughes wrote:Rapid Rugby broadcast global and free

March 10, 2020

Broadcast details announced today will ensure that Global Rapid Rugby Season One is free-to-view and promotes the sport to a younger, digitally savvy audience right around the world.

A digitally focussed broadcast strategy includes international content aggregator Rugby Pass transmitting and promoting all 31 games of Season One via YouTube on Global Rapid Rugby’s website, rapidrugby.com.

In Australia, popular online provider Kayo Sports will also broadcast all 31 games to a subscription audience of 400,000 sports and entertainment fans. Additionally, Sky Sports will carry games in New Zealand while Fiji Broadcasting Corporation and TV1 Samoa will show matches live.

CEO Mark Evans says growing the game of rugby far and wide was one of the original motivations behind Global Rapid Rugby and its innovative, progressive brand.

“A digital broadcast deal means Rapid Rugby is available anywhere, at any time to anyone,” Evans explained.

“The fast-paced, high scoring, entertaining nature of our competition suits a younger, family audience. Working with Rugby Pass and YouTube gives Rapid Rugby a chance to reach the homes, phones and devices of sports and entertainment fans throughout the Asia Pacific region where the games will be played, and beyond, where the appetite for rugby is huge.

“The support of Fox Sports Australia has also been appreciated. Kayo is a one-stop-shop for sports lovers, so we are hoping to get plenty of eyeballs on that platform as well within our home market.”

· Rapidrugby.com will be the number one destination for Season One matches in 2020
· Worldwide digital provider Rugby Pass will carry all 31 games live and on-demand through its free-to-view YouTube Channel in all regions – excluding New Zealand
· Subscription streaming service Kayo Sports will broadcast all 31 matches live and on-demand in Australia. Subscription TV provider Fox Sports may broadcast some matches live and on replay
· Sky Sports New Zealand will carry all matches with an emphasis on the China Lions, a team featuring players from NZ domestic club Bay Of Plenty
· Fiji Broadcasting Corporation will broadcast games on free-to-air television
· TV1 Samoa will broadcast games on free-to-air television
· World-class broadcast provider Gravity Media will produce the majority of matches

The inaugural Global Rapid Rugby home-and-away season begins this Saturday, March 14, with Fijian Latui hosting the China Lions under lights in Suva, followed by a Double Header in Perth featuring the Western Force, Malaysia Valke, Manuma Samoa and South China Tigers.

Rapid Rugby Season One is played over 10 rounds and 31 games, including a one-off grand final and a total prize pool of AU$1 Million. The competition aims to grow the game of rugby in the APAC region and features innovative new laws that ensure more ball-in-play and reward attacking rugby.


That’s a pretty comprehensive streaming availability. Free for everyone on YouTube except New Zealand, though they can watch on Sky if they have it. Tbh I see NZ as low on the totem pole for places that need to get this for free. And it’s on FTA TV in Fiji and Samoa.

GRR is at the point where it has to be free to be seen but I’m glad to see that there are lots of different options to watch the games. Usually the new leagues just put it on Facebook or YouTube but good to see they are proactively getting it on as many sources as possible.

I hope GRR can make a dent where Super Rugby is failing in these countries.

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