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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Edgar » Tue, 10 Mar 2020, 15:34

Three Southland players have signed to play for the China Lions, a team that is run by the Bay of Plenty Rugby Union, comprises mostly of New Zealanders, and plays its home games at Taupo, Rotorua and Adelaide.

China Lions will make their competition debut this Saturday when they face Latui in Fiji. Two weeks later they play their first home-game, an all-China derby against Hong Kong's Tigers in Taupo.

Chinese people must be very excited about this as they await their team's first foray into the world of professional rugby.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby victorsra » Tue, 10 Mar 2020, 16:30

I doubt the Chinese people know about this rented team, this league and rugby itself...
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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Tue, 10 Mar 2020, 16:49

My dog is more Chinese than this rugby team (he's half pug)

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Hinato » Tue, 10 Mar 2020, 18:33

L'international malaisien Amirul Aqil signe avec les Malaysia Valke!
https://www.asierugby.com/post/l-intern ... ysia-valke

Pour leur 1ère saison dans le Global Rapid Rugby, les Malaysia Valke compteront 35 joueurs dont 5 internationaux malaisiens (4 à XV et un à 7), soit 14% de l'effectif! Très bonne nouvelle! https://www.asierugby.com/malaysia-valke

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby victorsra » Tue, 10 Mar 2020, 19:45

Chester-Donnelly wrote:My dog is more Chinese than this rugby team (he's half pug)


But seriously. I would like to know if there will be at least news in Chinese covering GRR and broadcast in Chinese too. If not even this will happen, there is zero point.
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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Tue, 10 Mar 2020, 19:59

victorsra wrote:
Chester-Donnelly wrote:My dog is more Chinese than this rugby team (he's half pug)


But seriously. I would like to know if there will be at least news in Chinese covering GRR and broadcast in Chinese too. If not even this will happen, there is zero point.


I can't think of any reason why it would be in the Chinese news. If someone set up an England Lions professional bandy team with an all Russian squad and staff playing their home games in Krasnoyarsk, I'm sure it wouldn't be covered by the British media.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby victorsra » Tue, 10 Mar 2020, 20:21

The only reason would be this is an official Chinese Rugby Union team. It is backed and financed by them, right?
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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Tue, 10 Mar 2020, 20:47

victorsra wrote:The only reason would be this is an official Chinese Rugby Union team. It is backed and financed by them, right?


In that case it could be in the media, but only to complain that it is a waste of money. Like when Britain paid £5m to fund an Ethiopian girl band.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Thesjhughes » Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 02:04

China lions is a long-term project people need to be patient Chinese players will come in the future. I read stuff as well that they actually are Chinese players But can’t get into New Zealand right now or Australia due to the coronavirus. I’ve heard the interview from the China lions and Bay of Plenty rugby Chief Executive Mike Rogers they want to have the team in China more often Then New Zealand as it was said in the interview that New Zealand is saturated with rugby. And it was a strong hostility to this team and rapid rugby a lot of clubs circles in New Zealand.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby victorsra » Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 03:18

Thesjhughes wrote:China lions is a long-term project people need to be patient Chinese players will come in the future. I read stuff as well that they actually are Chinese players But can’t get into New Zealand right now or Australia due to the coronavirus. I’ve heard the interview from the China lions and Bay of Plenty rugby Chief Executive Mike Rogers they want to have the team in China more often Then New Zealand as it was said in the interview that New Zealand is saturated with rugby. And it was a strong hostility to this team and rapid rugby a lot of clubs circles in New Zealand.

Do you have the links?
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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Thesjhughes » Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 05:35

victorsra wrote:
Thesjhughes wrote:China lions is a long-term project people need to be patient Chinese players will come in the future. I read stuff as well that they actually are Chinese players But can’t get into New Zealand right now or Australia due to the coronavirus. I’ve heard the interview from the China lions and Bay of Plenty rugby Chief Executive Mike Rogers they want to have the team in China more often Then New Zealand as it was said in the interview that New Zealand is saturated with rugby. And it was a strong hostility to this team and rapid rugby a lot of clubs circles in New Zealand.

Do you have the links?

Unfortunately the links will be on driving maul Patreon on page
There was a quick Lions coach Mike Rogers interview on the driving maul Facebook page as well
https://driving-maul.com/2020/03/08/wha ... ugby-game/

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Thesjhughes » Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 06:44

Just got an email from
China Lions Rugby
11 March 2020
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MEDIA RELEASE | China Lions ready to roar into competition
China Lions head coach Mike Rogers has selected a squad that has a blend of youth and enthusiasm mixed with power, speed and experience.

Global Rapid Rugby season one, officially kicks-off this weekend and Rogers says he is happy with the squad he has chosen for Rapid Rugby 2020.

“We have some really great talent in our squad and the side is looking forward to getting the season underway on a positive note.”

The Lions played a preseason warmup match against Manuma Samoa at Blake Park, in Mount Maunganui, New Zealand on Saturday, beating the visitors 42-14.

Rogers says the side is now looking forward to their season opener against the Fijian Latui at ANZ Stadium, Fiji at 6.15pm (local time).

“There are no easy games and it’s going to be a challenge but it’s an exciting one. It’s a little bit like Formula One Racing.

“To begin with it’s a technology race, then it becomes a team race. In our instance, it’s adapting to new rules and putting together a squad of players with the right skill-sets that will suit the modified rules.

“Then once the competition gets underway, it’s going to be a real race around figuring out how we do this.”

Lions’ captain Hugh Blake says the side is hungry and energised for their first hit up against Fijian Latui.

“You only do something for the first time once and the pressure is on us to show what the China Lions’ style of rugby is. You could say Rapid Rugby is the perfect canvas to show that.”

The fast-moving, high scoring, action-packed game that is ready to burst onto the world stage, has made Rogers look to some other senior players to help Blake mould his younger players into the international arena.

“We’ve got a little bit of a different approach for our leadership model. Currently, we have only four players, that is Hugh, Fa’asi Fuatai, Dan Hollinshead and Mathew Skipwith-Garland, but we also have a wisdom group and that comprises of Hoani Matenga, Dwayne Sweeny and Greg Pleasants-Tate,” the coach says.

“In our recruitment, we were really mindful of wanting to bring in guys who will really help the younger players along. They have played a lot of rugby in the Super Rugby level. Their job is around training, on and off-field leadership, being really calm and collected. To have these guys in our squad is really powerful.”

Rogers says he is also looking forward to the Chinese coaches and players joining the squad once the travel restrictions are lifted.

“Getting them into this environment it will be a great opportunity to expose Chinese players and coaches to this level of rugby, having them fully integrated into this environment will not only help these individuals but Chinese rugby as a whole.”

The China Lions is part of an innovative partnership between China Rugby Football Association and Bay of Plenty Rugby.

China Rugby Football Association’s, Director of the Multi-Ball Games Administrative Centre of the General Administration of Sport Yingbiao Chen says, the Chinese people enjoyed sport and there is a lot of opportunities for rugby to develop in the country because of the partnership.

“The joint venture will benefit both countries and I am confident the China Lions team will have a great season.”

Bay of Plenty Rugby chief executive Mike Rogers, (who shares the same name as the Lions’ coach) says seeing Rapid Rugby come to fruition is a satisfying feeling.

“We are really excited about the inaugural season of Global Rapid Rugby. We have assembled a strong team and expect the side to be competitive and play a dynamic brand of rugby.

“Our partnership with China Rugby Football Association is a long-term commitment to fostering rugby in China and we look forward to building a strong fan base in China over the coming seasons.”

How to watch China Lions games

For avid rugby fans who are wanting to watch all China Lions games, Rapidrugby.com will be the number one destination for Season One matches in 2020.
Worldwide digital provider Rugby Pass will also carry all 31 games live and on-demand through its free-to-view YouTube Channel in all regions (excluding New Zealand).
In China, you can watch for free on Rapidrugby.com or RugbyPass.com
In Australia, subscription streaming service Kayo Sports will broadcast all 31 matches live and on-demand in Australia. Subscription TV provider Fox Sports may broadcast some matches live and on replay
In Fiji, Fiji Broadcasting Corporation will broadcast games on free-to-air television
In New Zealand, Sky Sport TV will broadcast games on to paid subscribers
In Samoa, TV1 Samoa will broadcast games on free-to-air television

Home Game Tickets
New Zealand games
Online Prices:
Under 5’s: Free
Child: $5.00 (5-15 years)
Adult: $10.00 (16+)
*Booking fees apply

Gate Prices:
Under 5’s: Free
Child: $10.00 (5-15 years)
Adult: $15.00 (16+)

Tickets available from www.ticketmaster.co.nz from Friday 13 March.

Australia games

Details to be announced at a later date




China Lions
Forwards
Abraham Papali'i No 8 Bay of Plenty, NZ
Apitoni Toia Prop Bay of Plenty, NZ
Gao Yinghao Flanker Shandong, China
Greg Pleasants-Tate Hooker Southland, NZ
Haereiti Hetet LH Prop Waikato, NZ
Hoani Matenga Flanker Bay of Plenty, NZ
Hugh Blake Flanker Bay of Plenty, NZ
Iosefa Maloney-Fiaola Lock Bay of Plenty, NZ
Joe Johnston Flanker Bay of Plenty, NZ
Kohan Herbert Flanker Bay of Plenty, NZ
Li Haitao Lock Shandong, China
Liu Luda Flanker Shandong, China
Nic Souchon Hooker Bay of Plenty, NZ
Nico Aandewiel Prop Waikato, NZ
Ray Tatafu Lock Southland, NZ
Solomona Sakalia LH Prop Bay of Plenty, NZ
Stan van den Hoven Lock Bay of Plenty, NZ
Tevita Mafileo Prop Bay of Plenty, NZ
Tevita Sole Prop Bay of Plenty, NZ
Viliami Leo Tosi Prop Southland, NZ

Backs
Dan Changshun Wing Shandong, China
Dan Hollinshead 1st/2nd Five Bay of Plenty, NZ
Declan Barnett Wing Bay of Plenty, NZ
Dwayne Sweeney 1st/2nd Five Waikato, NZ
Fa'asiu Fuatai Wing Bay of Plenty, NZ
James Little Centre North Harbour, NZ
Leroy Carter Half Back Bay of Plenty, NZ
Liam Coombes-Fabling Fullback Waikato, NZ
Luke Campbell Half Back Bay of Plenty, NZ
Mathew Skipwith-Garland Centre Bay of Plenty, NZ
Pryor Collier Fullback Bay of Plenty, NZ
Solofa Silipa 1st/2nd Five Auckland, NZ
Te Aihe Toma Half Back Bay of Plenty, NZ
Tyler Campbell Wing Waikato, NZ

Management
Clayton McMillan Campaign Manager Bay of Plenty, NZ
Mike Rogers Head Coach Bay of Plenty, NZ
Marty Bourke Assistant Coach Bay of Plenty, NZ
Mike Delany Assistant Coach Bay of Plenty, NZ
Yu Xiaoxiang Assistant Coach Shandong, China
Wayne Brill Manager Bay of Plenty, NZ
Guan Yanbin Assistant Manager Shangxi, China
Thomas Stebbing Strength & Conditioning Bay of Plenty NZ
Scott Joblin Asst Strength & Conditioning Bay of Plenty, NZ
Andrew Tai Kie Doctor Bay of Plenty, NZ


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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby STMKY » Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 07:24

Why are Russians confident that they will play in GRR? An example of openness on their part towards Asia. It should be noted that the Krasnoyarsk rugby on a global scale is much stronger than the Chinese hockey before joining the KHL.
Since 2016, the Chinese club Kunlun Red Star has been playing in the KHL. They are based in Beijing, but played in different cities of China (Shanghai, Shenzhen and others). The team includes the original Chinese, as well as Canadian Chinese. But most players are foreigners. Yes, due to the low popularity of hockey in China, their attendance is quite low. But not zero. This season there were an average of 3200 spectators. Higher 8,100 spectators against Tractor in Shanghai. Not bad for indoor arenas. The average attendance of the KHL is 6500 spectators.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 07:35

STMKY wrote:Why are Russians confident that they will play in GRR? An example of openness on their part towards Asia. It should be noted that the Krasnoyarsk rugby on a global scale is much stronger than the Chinese hockey before joining the KHL.
Since 2016, the Chinese club Kunlun Red Star has been playing in the KHL. They are based in Beijing, but played in different cities of China (Shanghai, Shenzhen and others). The team includes the original Chinese, as well as Canadian Chinese. But most players are foreigners. Yes, due to the low popularity of hockey in China, their attendance is quite low. But not zero. This season there were an average of 3200 spectators. Higher 8,100 spectators against Tractor in Shanghai. Not bad for indoor arenas. The average attendance of the KHL is 6500 spectators.


There is a better chance of having a Chinese rugby team join the Kontinental Rugby League. GRR is an Asia Pacific competition. Siberia is not in that region. But China is committed to developing professional rugby. And KHL sets a precedent.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Hinato » Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 10:09

Quatre internationaux à 7 chinois signent avec les China Lions!
https://www.asierugby.com/post/quatre-i ... hina-lions

Effectif 2020 des China Lions
https://www.asierugby.com/shanghai-lions

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Hinato » Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 10:56

Les South China Tigers alignent une grosse équipe face aux Manuma Samoa samedi. 10 internationaux hongkongais dans le XV de départ et 6 autres sur le banc des remplaçants!

https://twitter.com/SCTRugby/status/1237652466897842176

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby STMKY » Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 11:04

Chester-Donnelly wrote:There is a better chance of having a Chinese rugby team join the Kontinental Rugby League. GRR is an Asia Pacific competition. Siberia is not in that region. But China is committed to developing professional rugby. And KHL sets a precedent.

Siberia is included in this region. Russia is a member of APEC precisely because of Siberia. Look at the APEC map. Siberian clubs played in the Challenge Cup, although they are not 100% part of the Western European region.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Hinato » Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 11:21

Nombres d'internationaux locaux dans les 3 franchises asiatiques pour la saison 2020 du Global Rapid Rugby:
- South China Tigers (35/49)
- Malaysia Valke (5/35)
- China Lions (4/37)
Des chiffres logiques vu le ranking World Rugby des 3 "nations": Hong Kong (22), Malaisie (49) et Chine (80).

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 12:05

STMKY wrote:
Chester-Donnelly wrote:There is a better chance of having a Chinese rugby team join the Kontinental Rugby League. GRR is an Asia Pacific competition. Siberia is not in that region. But China is committed to developing professional rugby. And KHL sets a precedent.

Siberia is included in this region. Russia is a member of APEC precisely because of Siberia. Look at the APEC map. Siberian clubs played in the Challenge Cup, although they are not 100% part of the Western European region.


APEC is Pacific Rim rather than Asia Pacific. Pacific Rim covers the entire Pacific Ocean and the countries around it.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Higgik » Thu, 12 Mar 2020, 07:56

STMKY wrote:
Chester-Donnelly wrote:There is a better chance of having a Chinese rugby team join the Kontinental Rugby League. GRR is an Asia Pacific competition. Siberia is not in that region. But China is committed to developing professional rugby. And KHL sets a precedent.

Siberia is included in this region. Russia is a member of APEC precisely because of Siberia. Look at the APEC map. Siberian clubs played in the Challenge Cup, although they are not 100% part of the Western European region.

You only have to look at a map of the teams in the KHL to see that Beijing is further West than 2 other teams and so would fit into this grouping. Krasnoyrak is much further West than any other team. GRR should focus on East China, Japan, SE Asia and Oceania.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Hinato » Thu, 12 Mar 2020, 11:03

En Asie, le GRR doit se concentrer sur la Corée du sud et le Sri Lanka. Les 2 seuls autres pays à potentiel. Le Japon va se concentrer sur sa Pro League qui démarrera en 2021.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby STMKY » Thu, 12 Mar 2020, 11:18

Higgik wrote:
STMKY wrote:You only have to look at a map of the teams in the KHL to see that Beijing is further West than 2 other teams and so would fit into this grouping. Krasnoyrak is much further West than any other team. GRR should focus on East China, Japan, SE Asia and Oceania.


Look at the map, Krasnoyarsk, which is northward along the Perth-Kuala-Lumpur-Hong Kong-Krasnoyarsk line. And the time difference is +1 hour! And how much is the time difference with the teams of Oceania? Some even offered a team from Hawaii.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby victorsra » Thu, 12 Mar 2020, 16:12

Dude, nobody plans based on another plan. Now the flight times to Krasniyarsk are too much.
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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Canalina » Thu, 12 Mar 2020, 16:17

Probably you've already said this: are the GRR games viewable free on line outside Asia and Oceania?

Ok, seen now few posts above

For avid rugby fans who are wanting to watch all China Lions games, Rapidrugby.com will be the number one destination for Season One matches in 2020.
Worldwide digital provider Rugby Pass will also carry all 31 games live and on-demand through its free-to-view YouTube Channel in all regions (excluding New Zealand).
In China, you can watch for free on Rapidrugby.com or RugbyPass.com
In Australia, subscription streaming service Kayo Sports will broadcast all 31 matches live and on-demand in Australia. Subscription TV provider Fox Sports may broadcast some matches live and on replay
In Fiji, Fiji Broadcasting Corporation will broadcast games on free-to-air television
In New Zealand, Sky Sport TV will broadcast games on to paid subscribers
In Samoa, TV1 Samoa will broadcast games on free-to-air television

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Thesjhughes » Fri, 13 Mar 2020, 00:03

Basically global rapid rugby is free for everyone excluding New Zealand but disappointed as a New Zealander

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