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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby Edgar » Mon, 27 Jan 2020, 07:39

MLR champs beat NZ provincial team :shock: :!:

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Mon, 27 Jan 2020, 08:44

That is incredible. Who would have thought this could happen?

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Mon, 27 Jan 2020, 09:28

Chester-Donnelly wrote:That is incredible. Who would have thought this could happen?


Everyone with the slightest idea how pro sports in general work. The amazing thing is that it happens so fast. Would have expected a result like this in one or two season's time.
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Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Mon, 27 Jan 2020, 09:48

RugbyLiebe wrote:
Chester-Donnelly wrote:That is incredible. Who would have thought this could happen?


Everyone with the slightest idea how pro sports in general work. The amazing thing is that it happens so fast. Would have expected a result like this in one or two season's time.


Below the Big 4 professional leagues, the Mitre10 is right up there as one of the highest quality leagues in the world. Honestly, I thought MLR would fold after the first season, so no, I didn't think it would ever get to this point, where an American rugby club defeats the New Zealand champion. But obviously you knew. You must be very clever.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Mon, 27 Jan 2020, 11:12

Chester-Donnelly wrote:
RugbyLiebe wrote:
Chester-Donnelly wrote:That is incredible. Who would have thought this could happen?


Everyone with the slightest idea how pro sports in general work. The amazing thing is that it happens so fast. Would have expected a result like this in one or two season's time.


Below the Big 4 professional leagues, the Mitre10 is right up there as one of the highest quality leagues in the world. Honestly, I thought MLR would fold after the first season, so no, I didn't think it would ever get to this point, where an American rugby club defeats the New Zealand champion. But obviously you knew. You must be very clever.


Folding was the other realistic option, I haven't had the impression that folding could happen in the last year. But imho it was always clear that, if this leagues gets serious, they will beat (not only) Kiwi teams.

The sums floating around in pro-rugby are a joke. For how much did the Saracens get penalized? 8,3 Mio Euro? There are Handball clubs with higher budgets and probably not even half the players on their payroll.

The problem in rugby is the lack of a professional environment in most nations. Why shouldn't pro-clubs come to a position where they beat a very good, but second string, Kiwi team in a "friendly" match? It is not that they just won a trophy against that team. They won a friendly match. Time to realize the legends of huge gaps can probably be closed by not that much money and a pro environment.

Once the globally practiced protectionism breaks down, you will see a lot of this results coming in from all sides. And no, you don't have to be clever to see that coming.
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Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby thatrugbyguy » Mon, 27 Jan 2020, 12:20

Great result for the Sea Wolves!

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Mon, 27 Jan 2020, 19:10

The make up of the Mako squad that is here is pretty young. Average age is like 21/22. It's a futures squad with a few Mitre 10 players. But...every single one of those guys was a New Schools or NZ U20 selection. Likely a few future ABs.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Mon, 27 Jan 2020, 19:22

TheStroBro wrote:The make up of the Mako squad that is here is pretty young. Average age is like 21/22. It's a futures squad with a few Mitre 10 players. But...every single one of those guys was a New Schools or NZ U20 selection. Likely a few future ABs.


Thanks for the info. So is MLR > Mitre10?

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Mon, 27 Jan 2020, 20:21

Chester-Donnelly wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:The make up of the Mako squad that is here is pretty young. Average age is like 21/22. It's a futures squad with a few Mitre 10 players. But...every single one of those guys was a New Schools or NZ U20 selection. Likely a few future ABs.


Thanks for the info. So is MLR > Mitre10?


Probably not, but this is encouraging. Really looking forward to the season.

As far as challenges to protectionism go, I'd imagine the Japanese league is a more serious threat at this point. The crowds they've been getting this season are as big as any in the world for sub-international rugby.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 29 Jan 2020, 16:32

Chester-Donnelly wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:The make up of the Mako squad that is here is pretty young. Average age is like 21/22. It's a futures squad with a few Mitre 10 players. But...every single one of those guys was a New Schools or NZ U20 selection. Likely a few future ABs.


Thanks for the info. So is MLR > Mitre10?


I'm pretty sure if you had just the Mako Mitre Squad, and not any of the ABs that are registered for them...in mid-season form they're likely a 30 point favorite over whoever is the MLR Champion. But that's still a lot of progress.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby thatrugbyguy » Thu, 30 Jan 2020, 06:26

I don't even know how to pronounce that word. It's says they are named after a cocktail drink. ?????

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby Working Class Rugger » Thu, 30 Jan 2020, 06:34

thatrugbyguy wrote:I don't even know how to pronounce that word. It's says they are named after a cocktail. ?????


Yep. The original name for it is a Negronis. It's Italian apparently. Tobar informed a Reddit thread that it is after the company owner Adam Gilchrist (he also spoiled my fun of informing me it is not 'that' Adam Gilchrist) hence Gilgronis. I suspect people will revert to either just referring to them as Austin or Austin Gs. And hopefully their merchandising focuses on the AGs and not Gilgronis.

The only thing that sort of makes this turn of event better are their plans. Things like paying the dues for youth players, making kits available at wholesale prices meaning it'll be super cheap to get into Rugby, sponsoring local U16s, 18s and 20s teams to travel the USA for competitions, $5 tickets for families and $8 general admission. free swapping out of Herd merchandise for AGs for season ticket holders and reserved seating. Building what they say will be the world largest S&C facility and opening to the Rugby public. Playing out of a new and professional stadium and investing in game day experiences. If they pull that off I suspect Gilgronis will quickly cease to be all that much of an issue.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby ihateblazers » Thu, 30 Jan 2020, 06:52

Gilgronis :?

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby rey200 » Thu, 30 Jan 2020, 11:32

LOL.
Ceterum censeo Sex Nationes esse augendas.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 30 Jan 2020, 12:15

And there is a marquee player for the "G's" https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/ ... e=rss_feed
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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby Edgar » Mon, 10 Feb 2020, 17:17

So MLR's 3rd season got underway at the weekend, San Diego avenging their loss to Seattle in last year's final with a 33-24 win in front of a healthy home crowd of 4.5 K. New England Freejacks, meanwhile, made their debut with a 34-14 win over New York in front of an unsurprisingly poor crowd in ?Las Vegas? Another expansion franchise, Atlanta, also made a winning start with a 28-19 win over Utah. Elsewhere, NOLA blitzed DC 46-13, Houston downed Colorado 21-12 and the solitary Canadian entry, Toronto Arrows, thumped the oddly-named Austin Gilgronis 10-38 on the road. So Austin started out as the Elite, changed to the Herd, and now they're named after a local martini! Could they possibly be any worse at choosing a team nickname? Anyway, that aside, looks like an encouraging start overall for the league with 2/3 expansion franchises winning on debut and upsets aplenty.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby victorsra » Mon, 10 Feb 2020, 18:12

Rugby ATL is also a terrible name. And the badge is the most uncool ever in the sports industry.

But I won't suggest Atlanta to pick a drink because it would be Coca-Cola and I will never be ok with the mess they did with the 96 Centenary Olympics :x

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 12 Feb 2020, 09:53

Team of the first round including German international Hagen Schulte
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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby Edgar » Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 17:37

Mathieu Bastareaud moves into the forwards for this weekend's clash with Austin :shock: Again, RUNY will play in Las Vegas:

Mathieu Bastareaud now playing as a forward after debut for new team goes wrong amid shock over his weight
The Frenchman had an underwhelming debut for the American team with many people commenting on his weight

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... d-17750371

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This week's draw:

New England vs Utah
Austin vs RUNY
Houston vs Toronto
Seattle vs DC
Colorado vs San Diego
Atlanta vs NOLA

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 19:47

Not sure what you're screaming about, he played No 8 for Lyon before reporting to New York.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Sat, 15 Feb 2020, 07:17

https://www.americasrugbynews.com/2020/ ... lr-venues/

USA to play their ARC home games at the MLR stadiums in Colorado, Austin and Houston.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby theDarky » Mon, 17 Feb 2020, 10:27

How was this week end in Las Vegas concerning the attendance ?

Were the tv audiences good ?

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Mon, 17 Feb 2020, 16:59

theDarky wrote:How was this week end in Las Vegas concerning the attendance ?

Were the tv audiences good ?


No idea about TV but the crowd was very small. If they host early season matches at a neutral ground, they need to combine it with some other type of rugby event, youth or otherwise.

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