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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby victorsra » Wed, 31 Mar 2021, 00:14

geuvanio22 wrote:I know that hosting a FIFA World Cup doesn't say much about hosting a RWC, specially because the local fan base and even the chosen venues are very different, but the joint South American 2030 FIFA WC bid (Argentina-Uruguay-Chile-Paraguay) should have been taken into account before Argentina stated they aren't bidding. All of the infrastructure (mainly hotels and airports) would be up to date (my guess is that it will be the FIFA WC choice), SOME of the venues could be used and by then SLAR would be 10 years old, so maybe interest would be big enough to spread the RWC to Uruguay, Chile and (less likely) Paraguay. Costs would be significantly low and, if done properly, it could be a huge incentive for local rugby.


For 2031 makes sense. For 2027 it doesn't, because they woudn't build everything 3 years before.

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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby geuvanio22 » Wed, 31 Mar 2021, 01:05

victorsra wrote:
geuvanio22 wrote:I know that hosting a FIFA World Cup doesn't say much about hosting a RWC, specially because the local fan base and even the chosen venues are very different, but the joint South American 2030 FIFA WC bid (Argentina-Uruguay-Chile-Paraguay) should have been taken into account before Argentina stated they aren't bidding. All of the infrastructure (mainly hotels and airports) would be up to date (my guess is that it will be the FIFA WC choice), SOME of the venues could be used and by then SLAR would be 10 years old, so maybe interest would be big enough to spread the RWC to Uruguay, Chile and (less likely) Paraguay. Costs would be significantly low and, if done properly, it could be a huge incentive for local rugby.


For 2031 makes sense. For 2027 it doesn't, because they woudn't build everything 3 years before.


I'm sorry, I was thinking about 2031, I forgot it was a 2027 bid topic. I'll edit my post so it's clear what I'm talking about.

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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby RugbyToledo » Wed, 31 Mar 2021, 18:57

2031 would be perfect for an Italy-Spain bid, both are touristical countries, near the main rugby markets, and share the costs of the RWC (that has proven as the main stop for a serios italian bid to host RWC)

Sadly It won't happen.

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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby RugbyToledo » Wed, 31 Mar 2021, 19:01

Argentina will not host a RWC un a short-middle term by economical ( country economy, always in crisis, and revenue from tickets) and geographical (far away from everywhere) reasons. Just forget it.

Same for South Africa.

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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby BigG » Wed, 31 Mar 2021, 19:12

RugbyToledo wrote:2031 would be perfect for an Italy-Spain bid, both are touristical countries, near the main rugby markets, and share the costs of the RWC (that has proven as the main stop for a serios italian bid to host RWC)

Sadly It won't happen.


I believe, if number of WC teams increases up to 24, the mentioned countries have a good chance.

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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby snapper37 » Thu, 01 Apr 2021, 01:33

RugbyToledo wrote:Argentina will not host a RWC un a short-middle term by economical ( country economy, always in crisis, and revenue from tickets) and geographical (far away from everywhere) reasons. Just forget it.

Same for South Africa.




The World cup would be major hit in South Africa, as it was in 95. And I believe it deserves to go back there..

Argentina, Italy,Spain would all be awesome locations for the tournament, USA not so much. ,

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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 01 Apr 2021, 08:22

It is strange that Russia will host the Mens Volleyball World Championship in 2022 .
Otherwise my opinion on sexual orientation of GAS, IOC and WADA has not changed ...
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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby STMKY » Thu, 01 Apr 2021, 08:58

There is no Anglo-Saxon influence in volleyball. Therefore, they cannot stick their dirty hands in there. But WADA is 100% their office.

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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby Raven » Thu, 01 Apr 2021, 16:17

BigG wrote:I believe, if number of WC teams increases up to 24, the mentioned countries have a good chance.

Why would their interest or chances of hosting a RWC change if the number increased to 24?

I'll raise my bet and say that if the number of participants doesn't change to 24 by 2027 I'd probably lose interest in the RWC altogether (may be going on a limb here)

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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby NaBUru38 » Sun, 04 Apr 2021, 19:20

I would accept a Home Nations to host the 2031 World Cup, but then they mustn't host 2035 or 2039.

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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby RugbyToledo » Sun, 04 Apr 2021, 21:07

snapper37 wrote:
RugbyToledo wrote:Argentina will not host a RWC un a short-middle term by economical ( country economy, always in crisis, and revenue from tickets) and geographical (far away from everywhere) reasons. Just forget it.

Same for South Africa.




The World cup would be major hit in South Africa, as it was in 95. And I believe it deserves to go back there..

Argentina, Italy,Spain would all be awesome locations for the tournament, USA not so much. ,


South Africa hosted 1995 RWC by political reasons. If they don´t make a big push for hosting it again (for example the corruption building around 2010 football world cup to buy FIFA wills), or anybody more wants to host it, seem unlikely to receive it again.

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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby SSJ YUSUKE » Sun, 04 Apr 2021, 23:42

South Africa can host a very succesful world cup as we have proven time and again, we are a modern country with very modern infastructure and every world cup we have hosted, whether it be Rugby or Soccer has been succesful. South Africa didn't win the right to host the Fifa world cup purely out of corrutption, that is an ignoarant of South Africa and selling it way too short. South Africa has a track record of hosting succesful world sporting events to great success

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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby RugbyToledo » Sun, 04 Apr 2021, 23:44

SSJ YUSUKE wrote:South Africa can host a very succesful world cup as we have proven time and again, we are a modern country with very modern infastructure and every world cup we have hosted, whether it be Rugby or Soccer has been succesful. South Africa didn't win the right to host the Fifa world cup purely out of corrutption, that is an ignoarant of South Africa and selling it way too short. South Africa has a track record of hosting succesful world sporting events to great success


Since the turn of the XXI century, all the FIFA World Cups are conceded by corruption schemes (it´s not just me who claims this, it´s just an international investigation that sacked the previous leaders of FIFA who say this), it´s not just a South Africa thing.

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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby victorsra » Mon, 05 Apr 2021, 00:13

of the last 6 FIFA WCs, 5 produced White Elephants (2002, 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022). The only that hasn't produced white elephants is 2006 because Red Bull built a team in Leipzig, but Kaiserslautern went broken anyway in parts because of the WC stadium.

SA could host, but it looks like they won't bid, so....

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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby Figaro » Tue, 06 Apr 2021, 21:01

victorsra wrote:of the last 6 FIFA WCs, 5 produced White Elephants (2002, 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022). The only that hasn't produced white elephants is 2006 because Red Bull built a team in Leipzig, but Kaiserslautern went broken anyway in parts because of the WC stadium.

SA could host, but it looks like they won't bid, so....


That's just because of the completely unnecessary convention that hosts now completely build or refurbish every stadium. Inevitably that'll produce a load of white elephants. RWCs generally use existing infrastructure (or stuff being built anyway, as in the case of Japan).

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Re: 2027 RWC bids

Postby victorsra » Tue, 06 Apr 2021, 21:47

Yep, rugby can use this in its favor.

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