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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Canalina » Sat, 11 Jan 2020, 16:30

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby BigG » Sat, 11 Jan 2020, 18:11

Canalina wrote:According to this article, appeared today, Viadana is bidding to be one of the venues of the JRWC. So, apparently, the hosting cities have not been decided yet.
The article purposes an hypothesis including Parma as main base and Viadana, Calvisano and Verona as other venues.
They would be almost the same cities which hosted the 2015 edition, just with Verona (the town of Romeo&Juliet) in place of Cremona (the town of Stradivari)

http://www.oglioponews.it/2020/01/11/ru ... diale-u20/

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Do you have any idea when they are going to decide ultimate version of venues?

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Canalina » Sat, 11 Jan 2020, 19:07

No, sorry. FIR didn't say absolutely anything so far. I don't remember if they ever communicate officially that the JRWC will be in Italy; just the chairman of the federation mentioned it during an interview with a newspaper some months ago.
I don't know if they encountered some problem or if this situation (venues still not decided five months before the kick off) was on the plan

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 12 Jan 2020, 11:35

Junior Taça Ibérica is revived today (13:30 CET) with a U18 match between Os Belenenses and Sant Cugat. Live here:
http://www.fpr.pt/news-detail/10059115/

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Re: Youth Internationals

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 10:03

Calvisano, Verona, Viadana and Parma confirmed as hosts of U20 WC:
https://www.world.rugby/news/551709

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby BigG » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 11:21

Armchair Fan wrote:Calvisano, Verona, Viadana and Parma confirmed as hosts of U20 WC:
https://www.world.rugby/news/551709


Absolutely stupid and unfair distribution of the last 2 games.
In previous years the practice was: game for 9-12 places , game for 5-8 places and 1/2 final game one each in one city, and the same three more games in another city.

Now they plan to have both 1/2 games in Viadana. It means that fans of the six countries who attend the championships are denied of opportunity to attend 1/2 final game.

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby sk 88 » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 12:02

Viadana is a lovely ground, small town though, when Tigers played there we couldn't find any local accommodation and stayed in Parma (which is not exactly a long way away, but did mean one of us had to drive).

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Canalina » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 12:31

If maybe you are a fan of Don Camillo's movies and books (I'm), when you are in Viadana you have just on the other side of the bridge over the river Po the little town of Brescello, where the movies were filmed. The church and the square in front of are still the same. Some actions where shot also in the near Boretto. Those little villages along the river Po are very nice to me; they seem sinked under the riverbank and they give a feeling of calm, mostly in summer

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Bogdan_DC » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 13:51

I guess Treviso are dissapointed with that.

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 14:04

Then, in order to ensure a split of two northern and two southern hemisphere teams in each pool,
the remaining teams have been seeded and placed accordingly in a snake format.
The team promoted from the World Rugby U20 Trophy is considered a southern hemisphere team.

WHY ensure the split :?: Do they do the same for other comps, inc RWC :!:

snake format sounds unsavory -- should be ZIGZAG

And how Japan belongs to southern hemi :?: Artifically equating the numbers ...

TIRED of those DUBLIN shenanigans :::

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby BigG » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 14:10

Canalina wrote:If maybe you are a fan of Don Camillo's movies and books (I'm), when you are in Viadana you have just on the other side of the bridge over the river Po the little town of Brescello, where the movies were filmed. The church and the square in front of are still the same. Some actions where shot also in the near Boretto. Those little villages along the river Po are very nice to me; they seem sinked under the riverbank and they give a feeling of calm, mostly in summer Image


I meant July 3 (match day 4) games. They will take place in Viadana and Calvisano.
Distance between them is about 60 km (1 hour to drive). One who wishes to watch 1/2 game may drive from Viadana to Calvisano. However unlike situation in e.g. U20 2018 in France that creates additional difficulties, expenses, and time. In my opinion it is better to divide 1/2 games between the above mentioned cities.

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Canalina » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 14:26

Bogdan_DC wrote:I guess Treviso are dissapointed with that.

The southern fans seem more disappointed. Third JRWC in Italy and third time in the north. North has more rugby facilities and they are closer each other, but it seems a bit short-viewing to keep the tournament always in the same places. Anyway we don't know the behind-the-scenes, it could be that the Federation had good reasons to keep the event again in Lombardy/Emilia/Veneto (the three strongholds of italian rugby)

BigG wrote:I meant July 3 (match day 4) games. They will take place in Viadana and Calvisano.
Distance between them is about 60 km (1 hour to drive). One who wishes to watch 1/2 game may drive from Viadana to Calvisano. However unlike situation in e.g. U20 2018 in France that creates additional difficulties, expenses, and time. In my opinion it is better to divide 1/2 games between the above mentioned cities.

Yes, I had understood. Mine was just a "touristic" general note

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 21:26

Schedule-makers forgot to assign games 28, 29, 30 to Parma

Discovered whilst georgianizing that precious stuff

http://vue.ge/2019-2020/UXX/U20_GANRIGI.htm

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Canalina » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 23:16

That could be not a forgetfulness but, as far as I know, it could be the consequence of some doubts about the exact venue of the title final. Even the Italian Federation's today's communicate mentioned all the stadiums of the Championship apart the Parma's one. I heard that some works are on the program on the field of the "Lanfranchi" (the Zebre's stadium) and probably the Zebre's decision to play the last Pro14 game of the season outside, in Jesi, is due to those works. The works are finalized right to have a better field for the JRWC, but maybe they are not certain to finish the job in time. Or maybe they are mumbling to host the main finals in a bigger stadium. Fact is that no one so far mentioned the stadium Lanfranchi, even if it seems certain that the main finals of the JRWC will be anyway in Parma

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Wed, 15 Jan 2020, 07:10

How is this, sir, then?

https://www.world.rugby/u20/news/551709

1st para beneath photo of french kids

The world’s 12 best teams will compete across five match days in northern Italy,
bidding to succeed France as champions with the winners to be crowned in Parma on 18 July.


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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Canalina » Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 13:34

I missed that line...

To note that Italy will play the final game in Parma, whatever their previous results will be: id est, the 1st and 3rd place finals will be in Parma together with the Azzurri's match. So the 5th place final would be in Parma just if Italy was part of it

Here below there is an amateurish map with some touristic attractions of the area: the birth house of Giuseppe Verdi in Busseto, the museum Stradivari in Cremona, the villa in San Giovanni in Croce where the "Lady with an Ermine" painted by Leonardo da Vinci lived, the Parmigiano-Reggiano cheese factories, the places of the movies "Don Camillo" in Brescello, the many attractions (food, art) of Parma and Mantova, the wonderful bicycle road along the river Mincio from Mantova to the Garda Lake, the beaches on the Garda Lake, the Shakespeare's places in Verona...

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby argie » Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 14:03

The first ARC U20 tournament will take place in Uruguay involving teams from Argentina, USA, Canada, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay. Why is no place for Brazil?.
http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2020/0 ... t-in-june/

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 15:14

Because they lost to Paraguay in South American tournament.

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 24 Jan 2020, 16:02

As spotted by an El Salvador forum user, Rugby Europe has released QF fixtures for U18 and U20 Euros:

U18
Georgia v Poland
Spain v Romania
Portugal v Netherlands
Russia v Belgium
https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/competitions ... ampionship

U20
Portugal v Poland
Spain v Czechia
Netherlands v Belgium
Romania v Russia
https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/competitions ... ampionship

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby carbonero » Tue, 28 Jan 2020, 04:35

Uruguay U19 and Georgia U18 will feature in the World Schools Festival in Pretoria (March 24-28).

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 28 Jan 2020, 05:45

Armchair Fan wrote:As spotted by an El Salvador forum user, Rugby Europe has released QF fixtures for U18 and U20 Euros:

U18
Georgia v Poland
Spain v Romania
Portugal v Netherlands
Russia v Belgium
https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/competitions ... ampionship


Sad news for Germany, so we really cancelled our participation due to a lack of money. Good for Romania as they finished last behind the Netherlands in 2019 and would have been relegated https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/competitions ... ampionship
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 28 Jan 2020, 09:21

They wouldn't hace been relegated as there is no Trophy any more.

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Bogdan_DC » Tue, 28 Jan 2020, 09:24

Rugby Europe competitions are a joke.

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 28 Jan 2020, 09:51

Bogdan_DC wrote:Rugby Europe competitions are a joke.

Compared to most other continental federations they are not. And the one's who made it a joke are the Cartel nations when they dropped out.

Armchair Fan wrote:They wouldn't hace been relegated as there is no Trophy any more.

So it would have been a 9 team event then?
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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