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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 17 Jun 2020, 15:24

Rugby isn't soccer, and I think we all agree that the qualifying structures shouldn't be the same. That said, there's got to be a better way forward than what's currently being presented to nations. The entire RWC qualifying structure needs to be re-examined, not only to give teams a shot, even ones who won't make it, but in order to develop more regular competition and growth. The whole Nations Championship argument and the desire from WR to bring more money into the game could be solved by focusing on RWC qualifying more for everyone.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby victorsra » Wed, 17 Jun 2020, 18:00

thatrugbyguy wrote:Rugby isn't soccer, and I think we all agree that the qualifying structures shouldn't be the same. That said, there's got to be a better way forward than what's currently being presented to nations. The entire RWC qualifying structure needs to be re-examined, not only to give teams a shot, even ones who won't make it, but in order to develop more regular competition and growth. The whole Nations Championship argument and the desire from WR to bring more money into the game could be solved by focusing on RWC qualifying more for everyone.

Well, the easiest thing for Europe is to indeed scrap that playoff but if a team is promoted in the middle of the Qualy (from 2025 to 2026) create a special rule for that team: if they finish the 2025 tournament in 3rd place or above, they can challenge the overall 3rd for a playoffs to qualify to the global Repechage. Why not?

This would mean the RWC Qualy would be:

2023 - Conference 2
2024 - Conference 1
2025 - Trophy
2026 - Champíonship + Repechage
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby victorsra » Wed, 17 Jun 2020, 18:03

In fact, I don't see any problem about merging Conference 1 and 2 in 4 groups... why not? There is an opportunity now for Rugby Europe to have:

- Championship with 8 teams (with direct relegation and 7 rounds, round robin, 2 in november + 5 in feb/mar): GEO, RUS, ROM, SPA, POR, BEL, NED, SWI)
- Trophy with 7 teams (6 rounds, 1 promoted, 1 relegated): POL, GER, LIT, UKR, CZE, SWE, MAL
- Conference with 20 teams (4 groups of 5, 4 matches/team + SF, F): North (DEN, NOR, FIN, LAT, EST), West (AND, LUX, AUS, SVK, HUN), South (SVN, SER, BOS, MON, BUL), East (MOL, ISR, CYP, TUR, BLR) - more regional rivalries = less travel distances
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Canalina » Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 05:06

Australia could share some RWC 2027 games with New Zealand, if they won the right to host the event
https://www.samoaobserver.ws/category/sport/65418

The 2021 Oceania Championship, part of the RWC 2023 qualifying path (the winner will play with the loser of Samoa v Tonga), will be played within the first six months of the year, Oceania Rugby wrote

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 09:48

That sounds more like some type of deal to sweeten the idea of a Australia/New Zealand domestic league.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby victorsra » Fri, 26 Jun 2020, 18:11

Maybe that will speed up the projects of new stadiums in Auckland and Christchurch? I feel sorry for Christchurch, they missed the host of the 2011 RWC because of the earthquake...
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby dwpeate » Fri, 10 Jul 2020, 14:31

So if we already know that it's REC 21/22 as European qualifiers, the news today that Netherlands are RET champions makes it that there is already only 7 European nations in contention. Is this going to be the smallest group of nations internationally competing for places before the process has formally started?

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 11 Jul 2020, 07:32

You'd have to go back to 1991 qualifiers I'd imagine to know for sure.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby victorsra » Sat, 11 Jul 2020, 13:17

17 in the 1991 Qualy
21 in 1995
30 in 1999
and from 2003 it became the whole REIC structure.
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Canalina » Sat, 11 Jul 2020, 16:08

Morocco risks to be already out of the World Cup after Rugby Africa recently confirmed their ban from international competitions.
Anyway, being the international african activities suspended at least until the new year, I suppose the Moroccan federation has still some chance to be pardoned before the RWC qualifiers

(see the African thread for more details)

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