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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Canalina » Sat, 28 Nov 2020, 05:38

And these are the other 48 or 49 countries

1 SUDÁFRICA
2 INGLATERRA
3 NUEVA ZELANDA
4 FRANCIA
5 IRLANDA
6 AUSTRALIA
7 ESCOCIA
8 ARGENTINA
9 GALES
10 JAPÓN
11 FIJI

12 GEORGIA
13 TONGA
14 ITALIA
15 SAMOA
16 EE.UU.
17 ESPAÑA
18 URUGUAY
19 ROMANIA
20 RUSIA
21 PORTUGAL
22 HONG KONG
23 CANADÁ
24 NAMIBIA
25 PAÍSES BAJOS
26 BRASIL
27 BÉLGICA
29 CHILE
31 COREA
32 KENIA
33 COLOMBIA
35 ZIMBABUE
39 TÚNEZ
40 UGANDA
42 COSTA DE MARFIL
46 PARAGUAY
48 MARRUECOS
49 MALASIA
51 MADAGASCAR
54 SENEGAL
66 ZAMBIA
69 NIGERIA
77 BOTSWANA
87 GHANA
90 MAURICIO
92 RUANDA
98 SWAZILANDIA
101 CAMERÚN
n.e. BURKINA FASO ?


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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 28 Nov 2020, 18:44

Canalina wrote:If the anticipations are confirmed (just six teams playing in the Euro qualifiers, just three teams in the Asian ones, just Samoa and Tonga in the Oceanian ones, just Usa and Canada in the RAN's, just six nations in the SAR's) these are the already eliminated nations (in Spanish language...). 57 out of 105. Netherlands or a current REC team will be eliminated as soon as they play the REC/RET barrage

28 SUIZA
30 GERMANY
34 POLONIA
36 UCRANIA
37 CZECHIA
38 MALTA
41 FILIPINAS
43 MÉJICO
44 LITUANIA
45 CROACIA
47 SRI LANKA
50 TRINIDAD Y TOBAGO
52 ISLAS COOK
53 SUECIA
55 SINGAPUR
56 LUXEMBURGO
57 ISLAS CAIMÁN
58 GUAYANA
59 MOLDAVIA
60 ISRAEL
61 EMIRATOS ÁRABES UNIDOS
62 KAZAJSTÁN
63 LETONIA
64 HUNGRÍA
65 TAIPEI CHINO
67 JAMAICA
68 ISLAS BERMUDAS
70 ESLOVENIA
71 DINAMARCA
72 ANDORRA
73 BULGARIA
74 GUAM
75 PERÚ
76 TAILANDIA
78 VENEZUELA
79 SAN VICENTE Y LAS GRANADINAS
80 CHINA
81 BARBADOS
82 BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA
83 PAPÚA NUEVA GUINEA
84 INDIA
85 AUSTRIA
86 FINLANDIA
88 SERBIA
89 UZBEKISTÁN
91 PAKISTÁN
93 COSTA RICA
94 NIUE
95 NORUEGA
96 TAHITÍ
97 BAHAMAS
99 ISLAS SALOMÓN
100 INDONESIA
102 MÓNACO
103 GRECIA
104 VANUATU
105 SAMOA AMERICANA


Except that many of these countries need to be dropped to the bottom of the world rankings because they haven't fielded a Men's XV for several years. So it's not that simple.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby dwpeate » Sat, 28 Nov 2020, 19:11

Canalina wrote:And these are the other 48 or 49 countries

1 SUDÁFRICA
2 INGLATERRA
3 NUEVA ZELANDA
4 FRANCIA
5 IRLANDA
6 AUSTRALIA
7 ESCOCIA
8 ARGENTINA
9 GALES
10 JAPÓN
11 FIJI

12 GEORGIA
13 TONGA
14 ITALIA
15 SAMOA
16 EE.UU.
17 ESPAÑA
18 URUGUAY
19 ROMANIA
20 RUSIA
21 PORTUGAL
22 HONG KONG
23 CANADÁ
24 NAMIBIA
25 PAÍSES BAJOS
26 BRASIL
27 BÉLGICA
29 CHILE
31 COREA
32 KENIA
33 COLOMBIA
35 ZIMBABUE
39 TÚNEZ
40 UGANDA
42 COSTA DE MARFIL
46 PARAGUAY
48 MARRUECOS
49 MALASIA
51 MADAGASCAR
54 SENEGAL
66 ZAMBIA
69 NIGERIA
77 BOTSWANA
87 GHANA
90 MAURICIO
92 RUANDA
98 SWAZILANDIA
101 CAMERÚN
n.e. BURKINA FASO ?


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There should be at least two other Oceanian teams included no? For the Asia/Pacific play off spot?

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Canalina » Sat, 28 Nov 2020, 20:59

Yes, sorry, I suppose you're right. I've seen just Samoa's and Tonga's flags in the Oceania section and I forgot that the other nations of the continent have an other path. Better so: therefore also all the Oceanian WR members, as the African ones, are still on the qualifying race

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Grayday88 » Tue, 15 Dec 2020, 10:24

I’m curious with Namibia in disarray and Algeria having a lot of heritage players in France. So people think Algeria have a chance of Africa 1

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby vino_93 » Tue, 15 Dec 2020, 11:36

Morocco, Tunisia, Ivory coast, Senegal, Camerun too... But they aren't top of Africa. Algeria will lack of collective experience against Namibia. They might end in the top 4, but I don't see them being first...

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby antlat » Tue, 15 Dec 2020, 12:41

As Algeria is an associate member of World Rugby, they cannot qualify for the World Cup

Why is Namibia in disarray? Regardless, they are head and shoulders above everyone else in African qualifiers. Cannot see them missing out on Africa 1

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby victorsra » Tue, 15 Dec 2020, 14:35

Unless Algeria is promoted to full member by the end of 2021. The RWC Qualy in Africa is only 2022.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby ficcp » Tue, 15 Dec 2020, 14:47

If Laporte still wants Algeria to participate in the Qualy, it will happen.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Canalina » Tue, 15 Dec 2020, 16:22

Little curiosity: the name "Algeria" comes from arabic "al something", which meant "The islands". It was refering to some islands in front of Algers, even if I checked google map and wasn't able to find any isle apart a very very little one.
Rugby has a tradition of strongholds in the islands (the Home Unions, the Oceanic nations, Japan, Sri Lanka, Madagascar), an Algeria team strong in Africa could be a sort of confirmation of this affinity between rugby and the islands...

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby victorsra » Tue, 15 Dec 2020, 20:09

Canalina wrote:Little curiosity: the name "Algeria" comes from arabic "al something", which meant "The islands". It was refering to some islands in front of Algers, even if I checked google map and wasn't able to find any isle apart a very very little one.
Rugby has a tradition of strongholds in the islands (the Home Unions, the Oceanic nations, Japan, Sri Lanka, Madagascar), an Algeria team strong in Africa could be a sort of confirmation of this affinity between rugby and the islands...


Interesting. For the Romans, Algeria and Morocco were both "Mauretania". Before them Algeria was "Numidia".

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Canalina » Wed, 16 Dec 2020, 06:51

An article by the french federation says that just 12 African nations (the twelve qualified to the final phase of the last Africa Cup, so Algeria included) can qualify to the RWC; but considering that the decisive Africa Cup will be the 2022 one and that we still don't know the format for the 2021 and 2022 editions, I suppose that all the eligible nations have still a chance to qualify to the World Cup

A note on the RWC'23 graphic images: we all thought that the style was too ordinary and anonymous, with that simple red line on a blue background, but now I think it's quite catchy. The RWC info graphics are nice to see to me.
Graphically, World Rugby is usually doing a good job; maybe they should just remember to avoid "strange things" like releasing new pool formats two days before the draw and then using the old ones, with not a line of explanation or excuses...

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby dwpeate » Fri, 18 Dec 2020, 11:52

The loser will have to negotiate at least three more matches if they are to make it through as Oceania 2. The first assignment will be a one-off game against the winners of the Oceania Cup, won in 2019 by Papua New Guinea.


The above statement is from WR article from two days ago. I can't decide whether this means there is no opportunity for smaller island nations to qualify and PNG already taking up that berth or if they are just stating title holders.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Canalina » Fri, 18 Dec 2020, 15:59

Pretty sure the second hypothesis

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby dwpeate » Fri, 18 Dec 2020, 19:37

Canalina wrote:Pretty sure the second hypothesis

Hope so - it's already going to be a small qualifying process as it is!

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby ficcp » Sat, 19 Dec 2020, 17:05

victorsra wrote:Single venues! Do you know what that means? Uruguay will most likely play all matches at home to go to the RWC. If Chile or Brazil host the first phase, the other one won't have played at home either. That's terrible.


Daniel Hourcade confirmed in the radio program " Eden Park" that the venue of SAR 1 would be Santiago while the venue of SAR 2 would be Montevideo. It is completely unfair not to select a neutral venue in both cases.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby victorsra » Sat, 19 Dec 2020, 17:08

Isn't it SLAR?

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby carbonero » Sat, 19 Dec 2020, 17:22

victorsra wrote:Isn't it SLAR?

No, the qualifiers have the same design. I assume there will be no fans allowed.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby ficcp » Sat, 19 Dec 2020, 17:53

I heard the full interview. I udesrstood the same the Carbonero. SLAR and SAR in 2 bubbles : the first in Santiago and the second in Montevideo for both.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby victorsra » Sat, 19 Dec 2020, 18:01

Yes, i listened too. SLAR will be Santiago + Montevideo, but the RWC Qualy will have one bubble TBA (I haven't heard Santiago for this) and the final tournament in Montevideo, which is an insult, ridiculous. Once more, only South America and Africa have one country with home advantage in a phase with real RWC contenders. Brazil never faced at home Uruguay in a RWC Qualy. Truly shameful this decision.

We believe there won't be public, but we are talking about a tournament in Uruguay in July 2021, which means there are real chances to have public. It is 7 months from now.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby carbonero » Sat, 19 Dec 2020, 18:54

I get that but South America made the decision months ago when the vaccine rollout didn’t look promising. If fans are allowed by then, Chile and Brazil should push to change the format. Add three more weeks in August. Sorry to put in these terms but grow a pair man. If you are getting fucked, do something about it.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby victorsra » Sat, 19 Dec 2020, 19:01

I asked and Brazil wants to host Chile. What Hourcade said is not final. Things can change.

Which means it could be something like:

Uruguay vs Brazil, in Uruguay
Chile vs Uruguay, in Chile
Brazil vs Chile, in Brazil

And that's it.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby ficcp » Sun, 20 Dec 2020, 17:29

We can expect the presence of public in July. So a tournament carried out only in Uruguay would be quite favorable for the host team. Why not to consider matches at home and away for the 3 teams? It would mean 3 additional weeks.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby victorsra » Sun, 20 Dec 2020, 17:41

Uruguay wouldn't have Europe-based players in August. However, July also risks MLR-based players, as MLR only ends in August. Not sure what will happen.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Pichulonko » Sun, 20 Dec 2020, 18:41

I rather have the matches paired up like this:

Brazil vs Uruguay, in Brazil
Uruguay vs Chile, in Uruguay
Chile vs Brazil, in Chile

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