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Rugby World Cup 2023

Postby IanCleverly » Tue, 16 Feb 2021, 12:29

The competition will be Slllllliiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhttttttttllllllyyyyyyy longer:-

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/rf ... r-BB1dI0P1

(Yeah, I know it's the Daily Mail, so don't want anyone to directly go to their website)

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby victorsra » Tue, 16 Feb 2021, 19:35

Funny. Obviously this is not good for the clubs. But, if the RWC had 24 teams in 6 groups of 4, there wouldn't be any need of more dates.... funny, realy funny.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 17 Feb 2021, 12:59

There is a certain irony to this.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby victorsra » Mon, 22 Feb 2021, 16:49

Irony confirmed :lol: https://www.world.rugby/news/619345/inc ... d-cup-2023

But look, it won't affect the clubs calendar. It still ends in the end of October. It will only start earlier. Maybe less vacation days for players? Or less warm-up days for national teams?

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Mon, 22 Feb 2021, 17:16

SAME OLD SMELLY RUBBISH >> Rugby’s 200th birthday celebrations

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby victorsra » Mon, 22 Feb 2021, 17:29

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:SAME OLD SMELLY RUBBISH >> Rugby’s 200th birthday celebrations


Another irony. I realy thought they would choose UK for 2023 exactly because of this. But they prefered France with no mentions to the "200th anniversary" AFAIR.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 11:31

Jesus, RWC is nearly 2 months long now.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 15:54

... with month-long, 40-match useless pool stage
as real thing starts from QFs

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Canalina » Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 16:31

And Beaumont has stinky socks, I heard :!:

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby victorsra » Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 21:00

I think this irony will help the 24-teams cause. It will be clear it is the best way. A 24-teams RWC would have one week less.

However, it also opens the possibility of that system with a 2nd phase like 1982 FIFA WC, with 4 groups of 12. This would mean only 12 teams advancing from the first phase. Not the best thing for T2s, but maybe T1s would like it, meaning maybe more interesting T1 vs T1 matches.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Canalina » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 06:25

Dates and venues revelation ceremony today at noon, Paris time.
Live on facebook www.facebook.com/events/786162845354595/
I hope Italy may have a path similar to this: Americas 1, New Zealand, Africa 1, France.
And it would be nice to have a game in Nice, not far from the italian border

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 08:48

victorsra wrote:
FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:SAME OLD SMELLY RUBBISH >> Rugby’s 200th birthday celebrations


Another irony. I realy thought they would choose UK for 2023 exactly because of this. But they prefered France with no mentions to the "200th anniversary" AFAIR.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

At 11:30 GMT/12:30 CET today we are announcing the match schedule for #RWC2023, the 10th edition of the men's event, capping rugby's 200th birthday celebrations
https://twitter.com/BillBeaumont/status ... 3782557697

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby novac » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 11:45

https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/2023/matches

Opening match on Sep. 8th, 2023 between France and All Blacks.
Italy will have matches in Saint-Etienne, Nice and Lyon.
Let's see who we'll be Europe 2 and Final Qualifier. I would like Romania to take the Final Qualifier place. A match to watch in Toulouse or Saint-Etienne (against Australia) sounds better than Bordeaux or Lille.
I would also like to see a match in Marseille or Lyon.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Loohr » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 12:09

Short analysis of the schedule :

Team that play from first to last week/weekend of the group phase :
Pool A : FRANCE, NEW ZEALAND, ITALY
Pool B : IRELAND, EUROPE 2, SCOTLAND
Pool C : EUROPE 1, WALES, FIJI
Pool D : ENGLAND, ARGENTINA, JAPAN

Team that start later :
AMERICAS 1, ASIA/PACIFIC, PLAYOFF WINNER, OCEANIA 1

Team that finish earlier :
AFRICA 1, SOUTH AFRICA, AUSTRALIA, AMERICAS 2

Schedule for African qualifier is a bit bad (Last game on 27).
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby vino_93 » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 12:10

Why Toulouse or Saint-Étienne sounds better to you than Bordeaux or Lille ?

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Canalina » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 12:17

I like the Italy's hosting cities but I hoped in a different sequence of games: playing at the beginning with the seeds #4 and #5 and then with the #1 and #2 is the same sequence of the RWC 2019, for Italy, and it's not the ideal one, to me.

vino_93 wrote:Why Toulouse or Saint-Étienne sounds better to you than Bordeaux or Lille ?

Curious thing: I don't know if it's the same in other languages but in italian both "bordeaux" and "lille" indicate a type of color. Bordeaux is a sort of wine color, lille is a sort of violet

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby novac » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 12:22

vino_93 wrote:Why Toulouse or Saint-Étienne sounds better to you than Bordeaux or Lille ?

It's not a personal thing. I like all french cities. It's just that Toulouse and St-Etienne are more reachable for me. The same for Lyon and Marseille.
Bordeaux I would like to see, but you have to cross all southern France and Lille is on north, another big travel.
When I said "sounds" I meant they "fit". I was not refering to the name sound.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Rumpelstilzchen » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 12:31

I've added up rest days for each team. Africa 1 has the least rest days.

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edit: added Japan edit2: fixed mistakes
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 12:38

You are missing Japan.

Out of ten Tier 1, only two have less than 20 days.

Out of nine Tier 2, six have less than 20 days.

The same old shit.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Canalina » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 12:43

Nice table, I've already reposted it.
The tournaments is indeed becoming a bit elephantiac: twelve or thirteen days before two games are a lot, not easy for the fans to keep the tension. On the other hand it's true that Six Nations has often a two-weeks hiatus between two rounds, so maybe if it's good for 6N it could be good for RWC too

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby Loohr » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 13:30

Africa 1 will play last game on 27/09... Two days before New Zealand and Italy play their third game... It's completely stupid schedule...
In a logical world, New Zealand vs Italy game should had been scheduled on 27..

Since we have 5 teams pools in rugby world cup, it never happened before that a team play forth game before other teams third game. Thanks player welfare is a key point in that schedule.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby BigG » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 14:52

If Georgia is Europe1, we have good schedule.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 16:45

Tidier | essential | plain text version -- much easier to process by various tools

No KO times yet -- hence, no game #s

%__ = Qualifiers:

A1 | A2 Americas
AF Africa
AO Asia or Oceania [Pacific]
E1 | E2 Europe
OC Oceania [Pacific]
RP Repechage [WR unwisely dropped this term]


Code: Select all
ROUND 1

FRI 08/09   FRA – NZL   [A]   Saint-Denis

SAT 09/09   ITA – %AF   [A]   Saint-Étienne
SAT 09/09   IRE – %E2   [B]   Bordeaux
SAT 09/09   AUS – %E1   [C]   Saint-Denis
SAT 09/09   ENG – ARG   [D]   Marseille

SUN 10/09   JPN – %A2   [D]   Toulouse
SUN 10/09   RSA – SCO   [B]   Marseille
SUN 10/09   WAL – FIJ   [C]   Bordeaux

ROUND 2

THU 14/09   FRA – %A1   [A]   Lille

FRI 15/09   NZL – %AF   [A]   Toulouse

SAT 16/09   %OC – %A2   [D]   Bordeaux
SAT 16/09   WAL – %RP   [C]   Nice
SAT 16/09   IRE – %AO   [B]   Nantes

SUN 17/09   RSA – %E2   [B]   Bordeaux
SUN 17/09   AUS – FIJ   [C]   Saint-Étienne
SUN 17/09   ENG – JPN   [D]   Nice

ROUND 3

WED 20/09   ITA – %A1   [A]   Nice

THU 21/09   FRA – %AF   [A]   Marseille

FRI 22/09   ARG – %OC   [D]   Saint-Étienne

SAT 23/09   %E1 – %RP   [C]   Toulouse
SAT 23/09   ENG – %A2   [D]   Lille
SAT 23/09   RSA – IRE   [B]   Saint-Denis

SUN 24/09   SCO – %AO   [B]   Nice
SUN 24/09   WAL – AUS   [C]   Lyon

ROUND 4

WED 27/09   %A1 – %AF   [A]   Lyon

THU 28/09   JPN – %OC   [D]   Toulouse

FRI 29/09   NZL – ITA   [A]   Lyon

SAT 30/09   ARG – %A2   [D]   Nantes
SAT 30/09   FIJ – %E1   [C]   Bordeaux
SAT 30/09   SCO – %E2   [B]   Lille

SUN 01/10   AUS – %RP   [C]   Saint-Étienne
SUN 01/10   RSA – %AO   [B]   Marseille

ROUND 5

THU 05/10   NZL – %A1   [A]   Lyon

FRI 06/10   FRA – ITA   [A]   Lyon

SAT 07/10   WAL – %E1   [C]   Nantes
SAT 07/10   ENG – %OC   [D]   Lille
SAT 07/10   IRE – SCO   [B]   Saint-Denis

SUN 08/10   JPN – ARG   [D]   Nantes
SUN 08/10   %AO – %E2   [B]   Lille
SUN 08/10   FIJ – %RP   [C]   Toulouse

QUARTER FINALS

SAT 14/10   1[C] – 2[D]   [1]   Marseille
SAT 14/10   1[B] – 2[A]   [2]   Saint-Denis

SUN 15/10   1[D] – 2[C]   [3]   Marseille
SUN 15/10   1[A] – 2[B]   [4]   Saint-Denis

SEMI FINALS

FRI 20/10   W[1] – W[2]   [I]   Saint-Denis

SAT 21/10   W[3] – W[4]   [J]   Saint-Denis

FINALS

FRI 27/10   L[I] – L[J]   [Z]   Saint-Denis

SAT 28/10   W[I] – W[J]   [F]   Saint-Denis


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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby vino_93 » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 18:15

Canalina wrote:I like the Italy's hosting cities but I hoped in a different sequence of games: playing at the beginning with the seeds #4 and #5 and then with the #1 and #2 is the same sequence of the RWC 2019, for Italy, and it's not the ideal one, to me.

vino_93 wrote:Why Toulouse or Saint-Étienne sounds better to you than Bordeaux or Lille ?

Curious thing: I don't know if it's the same in other languages but in italian both "bordeaux" and "lille" indicate a type of color. Bordeaux is a sort of wine color, lille is a sort of violet


Bordeaux is a color in french too, it comes from the Bordeaux wine ;)
And for Lille, if you want the right pronounciation, don't say the "e" :D Just "Lil".

novac wrote:
vino_93 wrote:Why Toulouse or Saint-Étienne sounds better to you than Bordeaux or Lille ?

It's not a personal thing. I like all french cities. It's just that Toulouse and St-Etienne are more reachable for me. The same for Lyon and Marseille.
Bordeaux I would like to see, but you have to cross all southern France and Lille is on north, another big travel.
When I said "sounds" I meant they "fit". I was not refering to the name sound.


Ok thanks I understand better ! That's right to say that South-East is well deserved ... easier to move from a point to another if you want to see various games.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2023 Qualifying

Postby snapper37 » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 18:22

novac wrote:https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/2023/matches

Opening match on Sep. 8th, 2023 between France and All Blacks.
Italy will have matches in Saint-Etienne, Nice and Lyon.
Let's see who we'll be Europe 2 and Final Qualifier. I would like Romania to take the Final Qualifier place. A match to watch in Toulouse or Saint-Etienne (against Australia) sounds better than Bordeaux or Lille.
I would also like to see a match in Marseille or Lyon.

The final qualifier is going be a great little tourney in its own right.
Romania, Canada, tonga/samoa , Kenya

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