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Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby Canalina » Wed, 16 Sep 2020, 20:00

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby Canalina » Wed, 16 Sep 2020, 20:04

Using this list of matches -> tipping/tournament/ plus some other fixtures (the south american 4 Naciones) we have the image below count of autumn test matches per nation. Aus, Nze, Saf and Arg could play the Championship, so Argentina could be the team with more fixtures on the belt. Japan has already declared to be not going to play any match until the new year; I've read no fixture news also about Samoa, Tonga, Usa and Canada

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 16 Sep 2020, 20:12

Argentina will be Argentina XV in the South American championship.

Veintidós claimed Uruguay and Spain were negotiating a couple of test matches, but a later report dismissed.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby Tobar » Wed, 16 Sep 2020, 23:31

Hasn’t it been confirmed that there will be the rugby championship?

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby Canalina » Thu, 17 Sep 2020, 17:57

Tobar wrote:Hasn’t it been confirmed that there will be the rugby championship?

I think not. Just the two Australia v New Zealand games are fixed, at the moment

Autumn Cup, this is the complete fixture list (I don't know if it was already known)

Round 1
13 November: Ireland v Wales (Aviva Stadium) - 19:00 (UK time)
14 November: Italy v Scotland (TBC) - 12:45
14 November: England v Georgia (Twickenham) - 15:00
15 November: France v Fiji (TBC) - TBC

Round 2
21 November: Italy v Fiji (TBC) - 12:45
21 November: England v Ireland (Twickenham) - 15:00
21 November: Wales v Georgia (TBC) - 17:15
22 November: Scotland v France (Murrayfield) - 15:00

Round 3
28 November: Scotland v Fiji (Murrayfield) - 13:45
28 November: Wales v England (TBC) - 16:00
28 November: France v Italy (Stade de France) - 20:00
29 November: Ireland v Georgia (Aviva Stadium) - 14:00

Finals weekend
5 December: Georgia v TBC (Murrayfield) - 12:00
5 December: Ireland v TBC (Aviva Stadium) - 14:15
5 December: Wales v TBC (TBC) - 16:45
6 December: England v TBC (Twickenham) - 14:00

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby dwpeate » Thu, 17 Sep 2020, 20:47

Tobar wrote:Hasn’t it been confirmed that there will be the rugby championship?


Australia confirmed as hosts, if it goes ahead. Apparently there's doubts over South African participation, and NZ are understandably unhappy about potentially having to miss Christmas with their families because of the isolation period when they return.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby victorsra » Thu, 17 Sep 2020, 20:48

It was confirmed, but participation pending https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/09/1 ... all-blacks

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby Canalina » Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 05:18

A pair of unexpected autumnal fixtures on World Rugby list https://www.world.rugby/fixtures

Oct 30 Canada v Usa in Vancouver
Oct 31 Fiji v NZ XV in Vancouver

Are these still going on or are these fixtures a forgotten "fossil" of the pre-pandemic schedule?

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 08:37

Canalina wrote:A pair of unexpected autumnal fixtures on World Rugby list https://www.world.rugby/fixtures

Oct 30 Canada v Usa in Vancouver
Oct 31 Fiji v NZ XV in Vancouver

Are these still going on or are these fixtures a forgotten "fossil" of the pre-pandemic schedule?


These fixtures are still showing on the Rugby Canada website.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby thatrugbyguy » Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 10:27

Canalina wrote:
Tobar wrote:Hasn’t it been confirmed that there will be the rugby championship?

I think not. Just the two Australia v New Zealand games are fixed, at the moment

Autumn Cup, this is the complete fixture list (I don't know if it was already known)

Round 1
13 November: Ireland v Wales (Aviva Stadium) - 19:00 (UK time)
14 November: Italy v Scotland (TBC) - 12:45
14 November: England v Georgia (Twickenham) - 15:00
15 November: France v Fiji (TBC) - TBC

Round 2
21 November: Italy v Fiji (TBC) - 12:45
21 November: England v Ireland (Twickenham) - 15:00
21 November: Wales v Georgia (TBC) - 17:15
22 November: Scotland v France (Murrayfield) - 15:00

Round 3
28 November: Scotland v Fiji (Murrayfield) - 13:45
28 November: Wales v England (TBC) - 16:00
28 November: France v Italy (Stade de France) - 20:00
29 November: Ireland v Georgia (Aviva Stadium) - 14:00

Finals weekend
5 December: Georgia v TBC (Murrayfield) - 12:00
5 December: Ireland v TBC (Aviva Stadium) - 14:15
5 December: Wales v TBC (TBC) - 16:45
6 December: England v TBC (Twickenham) - 14:00


Well, this will at least be a good hit out for Georgia.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby sk 88 » Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 17:22

Canalina wrote:A pair of unexpected autumnal fixtures on World Rugby list https://www.world.rugby/fixtures

Oct 30 Canada v Usa in Vancouver
Oct 31 Fiji v NZ XV in Vancouver

Are these still going on or are these fixtures a forgotten "fossil" of the pre-pandemic schedule?


Canada's border is shut for all but essential travel. I know the NHL is playing out in Canada but I can't see either rugby game really, and especially the Fiji game being correct.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby victorsra » Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 21:31

Maybe Fiji-Maoris could be droped, but USA-Canada could happen, at least without public. But, whithout public, would it worth?

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby rugby-veterinarian » Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 23:32

USA rugby already said they won’t be playing any tests for the rest of the year. If I remember correctly it was a combination of COVID and fact they were in bankruptcy. I think Canada is also not planning to play any tests until 2021 as well.

I would like to see USA and Canada play a three tests series in the future. One game during the July window, the second during the ARC and one last test in November before they head over to Europe.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby Warpath » Sat, 19 Sep 2020, 00:47

victorsra wrote:Maybe Fiji-Maoris could be droped, but USA-Canada could happen, at least without public. But, whithout public, would it worth?


fiji game in canada unlikely to happen i think cause fiji names their squad that week and msot of the squad is from uk-france so traveling to canada is out of question..if this wasn't a pandemic year, it would have been a good game.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby BigG » Mon, 12 Oct 2020, 08:03

I believe in this thread we should publish composition of squads.
Here is Georgia updated extended squad for Scotland and Russia:
Forwards
First Row: Mikheil Nariashvili, Guram Gogichashvili, Lexo Kaulashvili, Shalva Mamukashvili, Jaba Bregvadze, Jaba Bregvadze, Giorgi Melikidze, Luka Azariashvili;
Locks: Nodar Cheishvili, Grigol Kerdikoshvili, Lasha Jaiani, Giorgi Javakhia;
Back Row: Beka Gorgadze, Beka Saghinadze, Otar Giorgadze, Giorgi Tkhilaishvili, Tornike Jalagonia, Ioane Iashagashvili;
Backs
9: Vasil Lobzhanidze, Gela Aprasidze, Giorgi Margalitadze;
10: Tedo Abzhandadze, Lasha Khmaladze;
12-13: Merab Sharikadze, Giorgi Kveseladze, Tamaz Mchedlidze, Deme Tapladze;
11-14: Akaki Tabutsadze, Sandro Todua, Zurab Dzneladze, Sandro Svanidze;
15: Soso Matiashvili, Davit Niniashvili.

P.S. Fiji squad: https://www.fijirugby.com/latest-news/2 ... edkpFMhlJo

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby Canalina » Mon, 12 Oct 2020, 13:44

Just an idea...
Probably all these games are going to be played in front of a crowd, maybe reduced but present.
IF instead some games in the next months should have to be played behind closed door, I think that a possible nice idea could be to go off the stadiums and to play in some unusual scenario. Rugby without spectators is bad, but without spectators & in a big empty stadium is even more bad (at least to me). To play in a natural or historical or however meaningful scenario would bring the beauty of the landscape and would take away the view of the empty stands.
Some examples of possible alternative locations could be:
- the field of the Rugby School (if it's enough big for a regular rugby match)
- a field upon the border between two nations, with the border as midfield line (for example France v Italy on the "Riviera" border)
- an island or an altipiano field (like the one in Val d'Isere), or an other beautiful field like those purposed by https://twitter.com/RugbyFields

I know that there would be not small technical and logistic problems, but also from a television point of view it would be perhaps a more enjoyable and so a more sellable product

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby BigG » Mon, 12 Oct 2020, 15:48

The tournament is under a threat?
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... newsletter

Who knows how serious is that?

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby sk 88 » Mon, 12 Oct 2020, 18:13

No that is a bonus friendly match that the French agreed seemingly solely to wind up their clubs. The LNR have voted in favour of a 5 match autumn, so have already conceded loads to the FFR but as ever with unions you give them an inch and they take a mile.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby Tomster7uk » Mon, 12 Oct 2020, 23:31

I have just been looking at the fixtures, how is group A all in the finals? Does that not defeat the idea of a tournament?

Group A participant, will be like, "We'll just play three friendlies then, whilst you in group B have to compete to play us in a final."

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby dwpeate » Tue, 13 Oct 2020, 05:46

They're just hosts. They will all either place 1st 2nd 3rd or 4th in the pool so they will host whoever finishes in the same place in pool B

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby Canalina » Tue, 13 Oct 2020, 12:57

Varney (Italy, scrumhalf) positive to Covid19 but with no symptoms

https://www.federugby.it/index.php?opti ... 11&lang=it

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby BigG » Tue, 13 Oct 2020, 15:39

Looks, on October 24 Wales is going to play vs. France u20.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... newsletter

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup 2020

Postby victorsra » Tue, 13 Oct 2020, 16:17

BigG wrote:Looks, on October 24 Wales is going to play vs. France u20.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... newsletter


"France could be forced to select a team filled with players from its Under-20s side and second tier when Wales travel to Paris this month, according to reports".

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