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Rugby Championship

Postby antlat » Thu, 05 Nov 2020, 10:04

Rugby Championship: South Africa commit until 2030

World champions South Africa have committed to the Rugby Championship until 2030.
The Springboks withdrew from the 2020 tournament because of fears over player welfare amid the Covid-19 pandemic.
There have been reports South Africa were looking to join the Six Nations in 2024 after the next World Cup.
But South Africa Rugby says it "welcomes" plans to restructure the tournament, which also includes New Zealand, Australia and Argentina.
"We are looking forward to seeing what the new strategic plan for the competition entails, with possible international expansion on the cards," said the governing body's chief executive, Jurie Roux.
Rugby Championship organisers Sanzaar (South Africa, New Zealand, Australia and Argentina Rugby) said the home-and-away format will be replaced with a "mini-tour" schedule.
Under the revised format, a team will host another nation for two matches one year, before playing an away double-header against them the following year.
"The re-commitment by the four unions to the long-term future of the international game is an important start as we embark in a new direction for both the unions and the organisation over the coming years," said Sanzaar chief executive Andy Marinos.
In the absence of 2019 Rugby Championship winners South Africa, the remaining teams are playing a Tri Nations Series this year, which began on 31 October when New Zealand beat Australia 43-5 in Sydney.
In September, South Africa's four Super Rugby sides started exploratory talks about joining an expanded Pro14.
The 2020 Super Rugby season was cancelled because of the coronavirus pandemic, with New Zealand, Australia and South Africa each having their own domestic competitions for this year.
"Although we had to change our domestic focus, we still have a long history with the All Blacks and Wallabies, as well as a long-standing friendship with the Pumas, and we look forward to more world-class Test rugby," added Roux.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/54807821

South Africa won't be joining the Six Nations anytime soon.
Also a very brief mention of possible expansion. Really hoping Japan and Fiji join in to breath some new life into the tournament.

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby snapper37 » Thu, 05 Nov 2020, 19:29

antlat wrote:
Rugby Championship: South Africa commit until 2030

World champions South Africa have committed to the Rugby Championship until 2030.
The Springboks withdrew from the 2020 tournament because of fears over player welfare amid the Covid-19 pandemic.
There have been reports South Africa were looking to join the Six Nations in 2024 after the next World Cup.
But South Africa Rugby says it "welcomes" plans to restructure the tournament, which also includes New Zealand, Australia and Argentina.
"We are looking forward to seeing what the new strategic plan for the competition entails, with possible international expansion on the cards," said the governing body's chief executive, Jurie Roux.
Rugby Championship organisers Sanzaar (South Africa, New Zealand, Australia and Argentina Rugby) said the home-and-away format will be replaced with a "mini-tour" schedule.
Under the revised format, a team will host another nation for two matches one year, before playing an away double-header against them the following year.
"The re-commitment by the four unions to the long-term future of the international game is an important start as we embark in a new direction for both the unions and the organisation over the coming years," said Sanzaar chief executive Andy Marinos.
In the absence of 2019 Rugby Championship winners South Africa, the remaining teams are playing a Tri Nations Series this year, which began on 31 October when New Zealand beat Australia 43-5 in Sydney.
In September, South Africa's four Super Rugby sides started exploratory talks about joining an expanded Pro14.
The 2020 Super Rugby season was cancelled because of the coronavirus pandemic, with New Zealand, Australia and South Africa each having their own domestic competitions for this year.
"Although we had to change our domestic focus, we still have a long history with the All Blacks and Wallabies, as well as a long-standing friendship with the Pumas, and we look forward to more world-class Test rugby," added Roux.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/54807821

South Africa won't be joining the Six Nations anytime soon.
Also a very brief mention of possible expansion. Really hoping Japan and Fiji join in to breath some new life into the tournament.



I cant see the AB's allowing the Fijians in unless Fiji play all their games in NZ. NZ doesn't come across as one to help any of the island nations unless it is with contracts to their rugby schools.

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Thu, 05 Nov 2020, 21:05

The mini tour format is an improvement in my opinion. Reduces travel and makes the games more special.

There's nothing here to make me think this involves a fifth union. Under the latest Super Rugby proposal Fiji and a combined Tonga/Samoa team will be included in Super Rugby, similar to the tournament which preceded Super Rugby.

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby victorsra » Thu, 05 Nov 2020, 23:20

How does it work? Isn't it the same thing since 2012?

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Postby Chester-Donnelly » Fri, 06 Nov 2020, 01:05

victorsra wrote:How does it work? Isn't it the same thing since 2012?


I'm not entirely sure, but I think it's something like this:

Year 1
SA vs Arg
NZ vs Aus

NZ vs Arg
Aus vs SA

NZ vs Arg
Aus vs SA

Arg vs SA
Aus vs NZ

SA vs NZ
Arg vs Aus

SA vs NZ
Arg vs Aus

Year 2
South Africa tours NZ
Argentina tours Australia
New Zealand tours Argentina
Australia tours South Africa

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Postby Chester-Donnelly » Fri, 06 Nov 2020, 01:20

So as a South Africa supporter for example, in year one you might have Springboks vs Pumas in Port Elizabeth Springboks vs All Blacks in Durban and Springboks vs All Blacks in Pretoria.

Then in year 2 you could have Springboks vs Pumas in Bloemfontein, Springboks vs Wallabies in Johannesburg and Springboks vs Wallabies in Cape Town.

It makes playing the All Blacks more special because they only visit South Africa every other year. And it puts a stop to flying half the way round the world for one game of rugby, so it's better for player welfare and carbon footprint. Also teams aren't crossing so many borders so it's more manageable if quarantining is required.

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby yorugua@US » Fri, 13 Nov 2020, 22:48

Does anyone know where to watch All Blacks v. Pumas in the US? I have not found any streaming or linear TV option.

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby yorugua@US » Fri, 13 Nov 2020, 23:38

ESPN+ just put it on the grid...yeah!

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 07:12

Pumas leading NZ 16-3 at halftime.

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby antlat » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 07:51

Holy Shit! Are we about to witness Argentina defeat New Zealand for the first time ever???
Argentina lead 25 - 10 in the 77th minute.

What a performance!

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 07:51

They did it! Well done Argentina!

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Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 07:54

They missed zero tackles. Holy cow.

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby victorsra » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 07:56

LOS PUMAS!!! Amazing!!! Argentina, Argentina, Argentina!!!

(and congratulation SANZAAR, the match was 3 AM in Argentina.... imagine if they had basicaly thought Argentina wanted to watch the match.... a lesson of how to not promote schedule a match....)

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby antlat » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 07:57

WooHoo!! Well done Pumas!!!!

Never thought I would see New Zealand lose two in a row. Damm its good!

Final score 25 - 15. Great celebration by the Pumas

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Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 07:59

That’s the full set. The monkey is off the back finally. Well done.

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 08:03

First time the All Blacks have lost 2 tests in a row since 2011.

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby argie » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 08:21

The hand of Cheika.

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 08:26

Reminds me of how England played New Zealand in the semi-final last year. Very quick off the line leaving the All Blacks little time to set themselves in attack.

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby Thomas » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 08:33

Argentina fully deserve that win well done boys lap it up.. 6:00 am start here in the UK.

What a match. wow. Argentina came at them didn't give them respite.

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby tryman » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 08:50

The result getting great coverage around the world.

For example it had a good feature on BBC breakfast news which is surprising as it obviously did not involve any of the home countries and they are generally tight for time.

Best game I’ve watched in quite a while, reminded me of Ireland V New Zealand in Chicago.

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Postby Warpath » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 10:12

i was watching espn vivo towards the end and the commentators were sounding so excited..

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Postby GeoRugby » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 10:53

What a result! Congrats Argentina!

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Postby Thomas » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 13:58

Full Match

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby victorsra » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 17:11

Just to show how bad is the match being at 3 AM:

Let's say the match was at 11 PM Argentina time, which means 1 PM in Sydney, 3 PM in NZ. Not prime time for kiwi TV? Yes, but it is 1 time a year, it isn't a bad kick off time (come on, that can be an afternoon watch rugby with friends, family) and amateur rugby is not going on. In the other hand, it is a watchable time in Argentina, not a broadcast exclusively to diehards.

At 11:45, half time, Argentina would be winning. Latin Americans sleep late, specialy on a Friday, so the Social media would be booming, Pumas would be a trend topic and a big load of casual viewers would have tuned in! Big audience (that's a 42 million people country), potencialy better contracts in the future. Instead, the match was schedule to be on NZ's (a country with less than 4,5 million people) prime time, keeping the game basicaly to the same audience.

Rugby doesn't want to grow. At least not SANZAAR.

Amazing day for Argentina, but when I think about how better that could've been, well, that's frustrating. Anyway, Los Pumas are dominating the Argentine news right now. Historic.

BTW, fun fact: Argentina and France are the only countries that have defeated Brazil in soccer, USA in basketball and NZ in rugby. Cool.

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Re: Rugby Championship

Postby vino_93 » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 17:50

victorsra wrote:BTW, fun fact: Argentina and France are the only countries that have defeated Brazil in soccer, USA in basketball and NZ in rugby. Cool.

But Argentina never defeat Canada in ice hockey 8-)

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