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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 18 Nov 2020, 07:33

Yes, he was born in Zelenograd then went to study in Ireland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Artemyev
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 18 Nov 2020, 07:54

By the way Vasily is one of showmen of TV program "All for Rugby!" ...
Kirill Yashenkov a contender for post of head of Rugby Europe took part in last edition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkEP_5X ... =emb_title

He says that in 8 years Morariu has done nothing to develop rugby in Europe.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Wed, 18 Nov 2020, 18:12

To understand the situation. There are two Vasily Artemiev.
1. Rugby player - certainly respect for him.
2. PR star among liberals. Let me remind you how he became known outside of rugby in Russia. After his interview in English. For the majority of Russian citizens, this means nothing.
But liberald are like the Papuans of the pro-Western crowd. For them, with America, etc., it is like a cargo cult. They don't care about rugby. They admired Artemiev's super English accent. Without going into details, he lived in Ireland. The Anglo-Saxons committed genocide to the Irish ... But this is 2% of the population of Russia.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Thu, 26 Nov 2020, 10:12

About Russian old proto-rugby-football game Kila. With Eng subtitles.
History.

Modern rules.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 26 Nov 2020, 10:48

In Tver region in Torzhok they play. 60-70 km from me ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWXSk2z ... =emb_title
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 26 Nov 2020, 11:33

Any news on Russia playing games in December and January?

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 26 Nov 2020, 11:43

Armchair Fan wrote:Any news on Russia playing games in December and January?

It looks like winter we will only play in Kila. 8-)
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Canalina » Sun, 29 Nov 2020, 19:30

Some problems in VVA club with the foreign players. An article by rugger.info, with also come kudos to Treviso and a curious nickname about that italian club: "the tailors". It makes sense because Benetton is a clothes company, but I never heard it before

What do they play with us?
Author's bewilderment in the wake of an unpleasant story that happened in an old titled club.

Actually, this club is "VVA-Podmoskovye", and the essence of what happened, if anyone is not aware, is that several legionnaires directly accused the club's management of being deceived with the living conditions and payment. The quintessence of this conflict was the departure of Georgian players from the location of the BBA, the recording of an emotional performance by one of the players and an interview with Giorgi Aptsiauri on our website that appeared on the Internet.

As time passed, there was no reaction from the leadership and players of the military to Giorgi's interview, although there was plenty of time to formulate their position and voice it. So, with a clear conscience, I will allow myself to speak out on this matter. Not as an editorial officer. Just like a rugby fan.

I'm not talking about the legal side of the issue right now - I don't understand anything about it. I'm talking about that part of this sad story in every sense of the word, where Giorgi told how he fell ill with coronavirus and was left to deal with the problem on his own.

This, to tell the truth, really penetrated me. In rugby, they don't do that. And the contract has nothing to do with it. I am very interested in why other players took the position of “my house on the edge” in this situation? Why didn't they provide at least moral assistance? After all, they could somehow influence what is happening. For example, try to put pressure on management by demanding medical help for colleagues. Or speak publicly with words of support. But his own rugby, apparently, was closer to the body. Only in this case she is no longer a rugby player, but a T-shirt. Sorry, I will not offend football and football players. Just a shirt.

I remember being surprised by the story of Nasi Manu, from the Tong national team. Remember what happened when he moved from Edinburgh to Benetton? If not, let me remind you briefly. During the preseason, it was discovered that he had cancer and Nasi ended up in a hospital bed. The operation, the course of chemotherapy ... All this instead of playing for the "tailors". So, the guys from the Trevisky club, as a sign of solidarity with Manu, all as one shaved "like Kotovsky." He was nobody at all. He hasn't even played with them yet. And they went to his hospital, supported him in the network, collected money for him. The club paid him under a contract, although it was clear that he would not have time to play for Benetton, because when he recovered, he was expected in the national team preparing for the Pacific Nations Cup and the World Cup. That's when Italian lawyers could find holes in his contract. Do you think they can't? But no, the contract was fully executed. Benetton did not renew the agreement, but during this time Nasi managed to recover and play for the national team in Japan - it's a sin to complain.

But the main thing is still not in the contract. The main thing is that the Benetton players immediately made it clear to the whole world: "This guy is ours, he put on a tailors rugby jacket and we will fight for him just like for any club veteran."

This is an example of real rugby, which, as you know, is not just a set of written rules.

“What were you born today? Don't you understand anything? " - they will ask me. And I will answer: "Yes, I understand everything." But here's the thing. “You understand everything” and rugby are not compatible. And there is a line beyond which only “you understand everything” remains.
Although maybe I'm wrong and rugby players really shouldn't interfere in controversial, conflict and generally difficult situations in their clubs, if they do not concern them personally? How do you think? Let us know in the comments.


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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 29 Nov 2020, 20:32

Players from SA and Fiji have no problem. So truth is probably in middle.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Canalina » Wed, 02 Dec 2020, 06:05

Just tweeted by russian federation, new interesting developments of the cooperation with Asia Rugby

On November 30, in Moscow, as part of the implementation of the Memorandum of Understanding signed in February 2020, a working meeting between the Chairman of the Supreme Council of the Russian Rugby Federation Igor Artemyev and the President of the Asia Rugby Federation Sheikh Kais al-Dhali took place.

Welcoming the guest, Igor Artemyev stressed that cooperation with the association of Asian rugby unions is the most important area of ​​international cooperation of the Russian Rugby Federation: “Taking into account the geography of our country, we plan to make Siberia, the Far East and Primorye centers of rugby development. This is possible only with constant practice with the best clubs and national teams of Asian countries. Territorial proximity and the availability of the necessary sports infrastructure make our initiatives quite promising for Asian countries. "

In this regard, the parties discussed the establishment and organization of the Asian Rugby 7 Champions Cup, which is planned to be held in Russia in the fall of 2021. The final games of the Cup can be held in Vladivostok, Krasnoyarsk and Khabarovsk.

Sheikh Qais al-Dhali was interested in the development prospects and potential of beach and snow rugby, in which Russia is the European leader. The possibility of holding a snow rugby presentation tournament in the indoor ski complex Ski Dubai in 2021 on the eve of the Rugby 7 World Series, which traditionally hosts Dubai, was discussed. An agreement was reached to return to the issue of the possibility of holding the Asian championships in beach and snow rugby using the experience of holding such competitions in Moscow.

Following the meeting, the head of Asia Rugby expressed his satisfaction with the developing relations with the Russian Rugby Federation: “The cooperation plans that we discussed are extremely important in various formats. We see opportunities to develop the game in all territories of Central Asia, primarily in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan. Mongolia is also one of our policy priorities. Russia shares borders with Mongolia and Kazakhstan, and Krasnoyarsk, considered the heart of Russian rugby, is just 1,900 kilometers from the Mongolian capital, Ulan Bator. This once again shows the importance of the Asian-Russian rugby cooperation. " Sheikh Qais al-Dhali thanked Igor Artemyev for his friendship and hospitality and added that “rugby unites communities and cultures, so let's adhere to Asia Rugby's motto“ We can do better, but only together ”.


https://rugby.ru/news/v-dubae-pokazhut-snezhnoe-regbi-/

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Rebus » Wed, 02 Dec 2020, 06:34

If the Russians cant get the opportunities in Europe to progress and sit at the top table as they want , then it would make sense to play in the Asian rugby competitions. I appreciate that traditionally , Russia plays in European sport , but the main teams are based in Asia where more than 75% of the country sits and I think there is more space for growth and in that part of the world.
Think they would benefit more from a Pacific based relationship because I just dont see the 6 Nations wanting to be involved with Russia

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Canalina » Wed, 02 Dec 2020, 07:16

We T2 rugby fans are often a bit grumbling but these last weeks started to satisfy some of our longtime desires: Georgia has been invited to the Autumn Cup, it seems that Scotland will visit in summer Romania and Georgia, the women World Cup was finally expanded to 16 teams and Russia started to cooperate with Asia. Maybe there's really a T2 God who reads our purposes :)

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 02 Dec 2020, 07:48

Canalina wrote:Just tweeted by russian federation, new interesting developments of the cooperation with Asia Rugby

On November 30, in Moscow, as part of the implementation of the Memorandum of Understanding signed in February 2020, a working meeting between the Chairman of the Supreme Council of the Russian Rugby Federation Igor Artemyev and the President of the Asia Rugby Federation Sheikh Kais al-Dhali took place.

Welcoming the guest, Igor Artemyev stressed that cooperation with the association of Asian rugby unions is the most important area of ​​international cooperation of the Russian Rugby Federation: “Taking into account the geography of our country, we plan to make Siberia, the Far East and Primorye centers of rugby development. This is possible only with constant practice with the best clubs and national teams of Asian countries. Territorial proximity and the availability of the necessary sports infrastructure make our initiatives quite promising for Asian countries. "

In this regard, the parties discussed the establishment and organization of the Asian Rugby 7 Champions Cup, which is planned to be held in Russia in the fall of 2021. The final games of the Cup can be held in Vladivostok, Krasnoyarsk and Khabarovsk.

Sheikh Qais al-Dhali was interested in the development prospects and potential of beach and snow rugby, in which Russia is the European leader. The possibility of holding a snow rugby presentation tournament in the indoor ski complex Ski Dubai in 2021 on the eve of the Rugby 7 World Series, which traditionally hosts Dubai, was discussed. An agreement was reached to return to the issue of the possibility of holding the Asian championships in beach and snow rugby using the experience of holding such competitions in Moscow.

Following the meeting, the head of Asia Rugby expressed his satisfaction with the developing relations with the Russian Rugby Federation: “The cooperation plans that we discussed are extremely important in various formats. We see opportunities to develop the game in all territories of Central Asia, primarily in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan. Mongolia is also one of our policy priorities. Russia shares borders with Mongolia and Kazakhstan, and Krasnoyarsk, considered the heart of Russian rugby, is just 1,900 kilometers from the Mongolian capital, Ulan Bator. This once again shows the importance of the Asian-Russian rugby cooperation. " Sheikh Qais al-Dhali thanked Igor Artemyev for his friendship and hospitality and added that “rugby unites communities and cultures, so let's adhere to Asia Rugby's motto“ We can do better, but only together ”.


https://rugby.ru/news/v-dubae-pokazhut-snezhnoe-regbi-/


There you are, Russia doesn't need to be an Asia Rugby member to work with Asian Rugby or to have a Russian-Asian joint venture. Only the moron clown-poster here that is dumb enough to understand this.

Anyway, very positive news of international cooperation.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 02 Dec 2020, 08:11

In any case, everything happens as i expected, but not a specialist with palm trees.
I have written about this scenario for many years.
If Russia does not see prospects in Europe, it will move to Asia.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 02 Dec 2020, 13:07

Moreover Asia has a fairly high level of rugby.

https://twitter.com/RugbyIndia/status/1 ... 7986728962
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 02 Dec 2020, 13:32

Vova12 wrote:In any case, everything happens as i expected, but not a specialist with palm trees.
I have written about this scenario for many years.
If Russia does not see prospects in Europe, it will move to Asia.


No, it only proved you are an idiot. It happened in the most obvious way: Russia doing a partneship without changing membership.

And also proved you are a moronic clown because it is CLUB SEVENS, aka "who-cares-rugby".

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 03 Dec 2020, 16:26

"Strela" Kazan is preparing to continue season ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq0XhbN ... =emb_title
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 03 Dec 2020, 16:30

victorsra wrote:
No, it only proved you are an idiot. It happened in the most obvious way: Russia doing a partneship without changing membership.

And also proved you are a moronic clown because it is CLUB SEVENS, aka "who-cares-rugby".

I wrote not about present but about future, bananophile.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Thu, 03 Dec 2020, 21:38

Russians and Gulf Arabs working together to bring snow rugby to Dubai. I must admit, I didn't see that coming. This is so weird. I don't know why but it reminds me of that movie where mammoths are being used to build the pyramids.
Just out of interest, are Russian scientists working on bringing mammoths back from extinction? Because I would definitely visit Russia if I could see a live mammoth.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 03 Dec 2020, 22:32

Everything is possible in the Caucasus.

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