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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 09 Dec 2020, 10:46

Cup of Champions of Russia and Asia or should we send Europe to hell, gentlemen?

https://rugger.info/news/37834

This text was not written by me! 8-)
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Canalina » Thu, 10 Dec 2020, 11:35

From Poland federation website, google translated

Russia proposes the Asian Champions Cup

In the 2019/2020 and 2020/2021 seasons, Continental Shield, i.e. the third level of European cup competitions, is not planned. Teams from Belgium, Georgia, Spain, Germany, Portugal, Romania, Italy and Russia played in the European Rugby Challenge Cup qualifying rounds, with two teams from Enisei-STM Krasnoyarsk and Krasny Yar Rugby Club. The former regularly promoted or defended themselves against relegation and played in the Challenge Cup, when that opportunity ended, the ambitious Russian Rugby Federation decided to take matters into their own hands. In the spring of 2020, the Continental Club Rugby League tournament was to be played, Russia, which financed the tournament, was represented by four teams, the opponents were to be three Romanian and one German teams. With Covid-19, the game was canceled, but the idea for these and other alternative games was not abandoned.

The project of the Asian Champions League on the Russian portal rugger.info was presented by Igor Yavkin, because it is not expected that Russia will be invited to Super Rugby, PRO-14 or any other club event. After being excluded from the European competition and the Continental League failing, Russia should abandon Europe in favor of Asia. The pilot season would include eight participants, two clubs each from Russia and Japan, the champions of South Korea and Hong Kong, and two Global Rugby clubs - South China Tigers and China Lions (Lions are based on New Zealand players from Bay of Plenty). There are teams from Kazakhstan, Malaysia and Sri Lanka in the "waiting room", and with the prospect of increasing the number of participants to twelve by adding teams from the Philippines, Taiwan, United Arab Emirates, Thailand, Guam, Singapore, India, Uzbekistan, Indonesia and Qatar.

The Asian climate may cause some problems, in some countries it is unrealistic to play during the July heatwave (during the international window), as well as the winter matches in Russia and Kazakhstan. The optimal date is the beginning of the games in late autumn, and the matches for places in March or early April. Of course, creating the Asian Champions Cup requires considerable financial costs and solving many logistic problems. However, a tournament of such a scale and level would surely attract the attention of both players, coaches and fans. And these are already important factors for attracting investors and sponsors that can make the Asian Champions Cup attractive and competitive as well as commercially profitable.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Fri, 11 Dec 2020, 11:36

This is complete nonsense. In Asia, apart from the Japanese, there are no serious rivals. And the Japanese are not interested at all. The only option is that in such a tournament a weak Vladivostok will play from Russia, so that they do not play in the Russian Championship, then others will not need to fly to Vladivostok.
I gave the example of the Asian Hockey League, where clubs from Japan, Korea, China and Russian Sakhalin play.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia_League_Ice_Hockey
A similar Asian Rugby League, where there will be clubs from Korea, Hong Kong, possibly China and Russian Vladivostok.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Fri, 11 Dec 2020, 13:47

I would be better to start with a tournament in one location with just four teams.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 12 Dec 2020, 09:24

Symbolic team of Russian Premier League.

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1. Ratiashvili (Georgia)
2.Magomedov (Russia)
3. Gotovtsev (Russia)
4.Fedotko (Russia)
5. Greff (South Africa)
6.Gachechiladze (Georgia)
7.Aptsiauri (Georgia)
8.Sukhashvili (Georgia)
9.Van Royen (South Africa)
10.Gaisin (Russia)
11.Karzanov (Russia)
12.Gerasimov (Russia)
13.Rokua (Fiji)
14.Gafarov (Russia)
15.Davydov (Russia)
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Sat, 12 Dec 2020, 09:51

It would be good for such a team to play against tier 1 level teams like Saracens and Cheetahs.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 12 Dec 2020, 13:59

Open Cup of Moscow on rugby snow rugby) 8-)

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 16 Dec 2020, 07:37

Lood De Jager, Manu Tuilagi and Byron McGuigan are preparing to play in Russian Premier League. 8-)

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 18 Dec 2020, 14:01

Tomorrow Russia - team of clubs 16.00 MT. Do not miss! 8-)
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby la vaca » Fri, 18 Dec 2020, 16:07

Vova12 wrote:Tomorrow Russia - team of clubs 16.00 MT. Do not miss! 8-)

Streaming?

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Re: Russian Rugby

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Sat, 19 Dec 2020, 09:11

See what option for Cheetahs is offered in Russia. This is a variant of a joint project of the Russian Rugby Union and Cheetahs.
1. RRU provides to Cheetahs a city with a new stadium and training base to choose from: Saransk, Kaliningrad or Sochi.
2. RRU takes care of the entire organization of the games, the accommodation of the team, transport, etc.
3. RRU provides an annual salary fund of 200 million rubles ($ 2.7 million) for 30-35 players and 5-6 Cheetahs coaches in Russia.
What are the requirements for Cheetahs in Russia?
1. Players who have not played for the national teams of South Africa must live in Russia for 10 months annually in order to be eligible for naturalization in Russia and obtain a second citizenship in 5 years. This is optional for coaches.
2. The coaching staff must select 10 young Russian players (U23) every year and take them to the team for development. Their salaries are paid separately by RRU. That is, there are 30-35 South African players + 10 Russian players in the team.
3. The team must play in the Russian PRO Champ. This is usually from May to October. About 20 games per season. But the 2021 season will be short from June to September-October. From October there will be an additional new Intercontinental Shield.
What does Cheetahs get?
1. They receive additional funding for some of their players and coaches.
2. Participation in the PRO tournament in Russia and the new European Cup. Team based in Russia on full support from RRU.
3. The rights to broadcast their matches Cheetahs can independently sell in South Africa.
4. If a player playing for Cheetahs in Russia has become an interest of the South African national team, then the RRU will not keep him in Russia.
5. At the same time, Cheetahs can play in parallel in the Currie Cup and other competitions in South Africa.

See where the cities are on the map.
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1. Saransk is a middle Russian quiet provincial town. Population 300 thousand. The new stadium Mordovia Arena (45,000 seats) hosted the 2018 FIFA World Cup. Minus the cold winters.
2. Kaliningrad is the westernmost Russian city, next to Europe. Population 500 thousand. The new Kaliningrad Arena Stadium (33,000 seats) hosted the 2018 FIFA World Cup. The climate is like in the north of Germany.
3. Sochi is a sutbtropical resort in the south of Russia. There are ski resorts nearby in the mountains. Population 450 thousand. The Olympic Stadium (47,000 seats) hosted the 2014 Winter Olympics and the 2018 FIFA World Cup. The city also hosts the Formula 1 stage. The ideal climate allows playing rugby 12 months a year. The Russian national rugby team is based here.
Safety in Russia should also be noted. It doesn't matter which city or region it is. Russia is a very safe country. All South African players living in Russia emphasize this aspect.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby la vaca » Sat, 19 Dec 2020, 16:23

victorsra wrote:Here is the streaming page https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEucuT ... HC5qdexr4Q


Thanks!!!

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 19 Dec 2020, 16:54

STMKY wrote:See what option for Cheetahs is offered in Russia. This is a variant of a joint project of the Russian Rugby Union and Cheetahs.
1. RRU provides to Cheetahs a city with a new stadium and training base to choose from: Saransk, Kaliningrad or Sochi.
2. RRU takes care of the entire organization of the games, the accommodation of the team, transport, etc.
3. RRU provides an annual salary fund of 200 million rubles ($ 2.7 million) for 30-35 players and 5-6 Cheetahs coaches in Russia.
What are the requirements for Cheetahs in Russia?
1. Players who have not played for the national teams of South Africa must live in Russia for 10 months annually in order to be eligible for naturalization in Russia and obtain a second citizenship in 5 years. This is optional for coaches.
2. The coaching staff must select 10 young Russian players (U23) every year and take them to the team for development. Their salaries are paid separately by RRU. That is, there are 30-35 South African players + 10 Russian players in the team.
3. The team must play in the Russian PRO Champ. This is usually from May to October. About 20 games per season. But the 2021 season will be short from June to September-October. From October there will be an additional new Intercontinental Shield.
What does Cheetahs get?
1. They receive additional funding for some of their players and coaches.
2. Participation in the PRO tournament in Russia and the new European Cup. Team based in Russia on full support from RRU.
3. The rights to broadcast their matches Cheetahs can independently sell in South Africa.
4. If a player playing for Cheetahs in Russia has become an interest of the South African national team, then the RRU will not keep him in Russia.
5. At the same time, Cheetahs can play in parallel in the Currie Cup and other competitions in South Africa.

See where the cities are on the map.
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1. Saransk is a middle Russian quiet provincial town. Population 300 thousand. The new stadium Mordovia Arena (45,000 seats) hosted the 2018 FIFA World Cup. Minus the cold winters.
2. Kaliningrad is the westernmost Russian city, next to Europe. Population 500 thousand. The new Kaliningrad Arena Stadium (33,000 seats) hosted the 2018 FIFA World Cup. The climate is like in the north of Germany.
3. Sochi is a sutbtropical resort in the south of Russia. There are ski resorts nearby in the mountains. Population 450 thousand. The Olympic Stadium (47,000 seats) hosted the 2014 Winter Olympics and the 2018 FIFA World Cup. The city also hosts the Formula 1 stage. The ideal climate allows playing rugby 12 months a year. The Russian national rugby team is based here.
Safety in Russia should also be noted. It doesn't matter which city or region it is. Russia is a very safe country. All South African players living in Russia emphasize this aspect.


You keep publishing fake info you invent as news.

Where is the source of anything you suggest?

You should be honest and make it clear it is just your opinion, your suggestion, not proper news. This way you publish misleading information.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 25 Dec 2020, 20:00

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 26 Dec 2020, 08:23

Now it will be wintering in Penza, flights to UK were canceled due to virus ...

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Sat, 26 Dec 2020, 15:23

Feature: Surprising Russian revolution
https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/feature-su ... evolution/
South Africans about Russian rugby

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 26 Dec 2020, 22:16

Yes! Makes a lot of sense for players to find new markets. Professional rugby in Russia is an opportunity, just like Japanese Top League and MLR. More sustainable professional leagues = more opportunities.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Sat, 26 Dec 2020, 22:28

STMKY and Victor are in agreement :shock:

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 26 Dec 2020, 22:36

Chester-Donnelly wrote:STMKY and Victor are in agreement :shock:

That was always my main point. Russia only needs to hire South African players. To have the Cheetahs franchise doesn't make any sense. And to manufacture "info" (he wanting to produce fake news) about relocation is his problem.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Sat, 26 Dec 2020, 22:40

victorsra wrote:
Chester-Donnelly wrote:STMKY and Victor are in agreement :shock:

That was always my main point. Russia only needs to hire South African players. To have the Cheetahs franchise doesn't make any sense. And to manufacture "info" (he wanting to produce fake news) about relocation is his problem.


Yes, with his little maps he drew whilst drunk.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 26 Dec 2020, 22:53

I honestly think maps are cool, it is cool he likes to draw them, but be honest and just make it clear those are suggestions, ideas, "studies".

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Sat, 26 Dec 2020, 23:02

Drunken dreams. Fantasies. Delusions.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Rebus » Sun, 27 Dec 2020, 04:56

victorsra wrote:Yes! Makes a lot of sense for players to find new markets. Professional rugby in Russia is an opportunity, just like Japanese Top League and MLR. More sustainable professional leagues = more opportunities.


Whilt it is understandable for people to move for work depending on market forces , I would expect the number of players to be qualified on residency grounds to sharply increase across the globe as players from SA and the PI start to explore other markets for their living.

http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2019/0 ... -rwc-2019/

Using the article , as a guideline, from RWC 2019 there were not as many players as I originally thought who were 'project players' but would expect a few of these countries to have more by 2023 and certainly a number of them more by 2027

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Tiernster » Sun, 27 Dec 2020, 08:40

West Russian clubs looking like they have the budgets to compete in EPCR. Will they get the invitation?

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