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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Blurandski » Sat, 01 Feb 2020, 03:58

Wales looking almost certain to be relegated this year. Another bottom two finish this weekend going by the NZ thrashing.

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Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 01 Feb 2020, 09:02

I'll believe it when it happens. Under this format any pool stage where they manage to win a couple of games means lots of points and we're only halfway into the season.

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Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 01 Feb 2020, 09:19

47 degrees today in Sydney for the Sevens.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 01 Feb 2020, 09:30

... and there you go, Wales beat Kenya and is likely to avoid bottom spot on Sydney.

Spain will either play for 7th or 15th place depending on the result v Ireland. Crazy.

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Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 01 Feb 2020, 10:14

This format is terrible.

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Postby victorsra » Sat, 01 Feb 2020, 13:45

Much better format. Finaly all matches worth to be watched. We don't have anymore half a tournament being a waste of time.
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Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 01 Feb 2020, 14:54

I think not having the QFs is a problem. However, I don't think there need to be any bottom 8 matches at all. If you need them you can play them off-site.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Thomas » Sat, 01 Feb 2020, 15:00

I don't like the format, they should increase matches or teams. make it a 3 day format. World Rugby has made a dogs breakfast out of a successful formula for short term success. Also Women's Tour combined with Men. no way they should stand on their own.

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Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 01 Feb 2020, 15:04

TheStroBro wrote:I think not having the QFs is a problem. However, I don't think there need to be any bottom 8 matches at all. If you need them you can play them off-site.

There is that need, otherwise you risk having a relegation battle with those involved not meeting once.

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Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 01 Feb 2020, 15:14

The bottom quarterfinals help to fill out the space for the whole day, that's always been the case. Without them you're waiting 2 hours for next set of matches. Stupidest thing they did was not plan any of this correctly. Changing the format mid-season is only something WR could do. If the women are going to share some of the weekends then I'm sorry, the tournament has to be stretched to 3 days. It's as simple as that. You play the girls on the Friday, and have their finals spread in between the mens games on Saturday and Sunday. Compromising both tournaments for the sake of fitting them both in a 2 day period is only going to end with both suffering.

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Postby vino_93 » Sun, 02 Feb 2020, 09:25

victorsra wrote:Much better format. Finaly all matches worth to be watched. We don't have anymore half a tournament being a waste of time.

I've no problem with no quarter finals, but you definitely need semi finals for everyone. With this I would agree with you.

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Postby thatrugbyguy » Sun, 02 Feb 2020, 11:21

Yeah, I'm sorry, but this format is terrible. And to change it mid-season is ridiculous. Make it 3 days for crying out loud. It's not fucking rocket science. Women pools games on Friday, Quarter finals on Saturday, SemiFinals and Final on Sunday. Only WR can take something so simple and completely fuck it up.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby nick511 » Wed, 05 Feb 2020, 22:04

I see that Korea has got a place a place on at least the LA Sevens, which is kinda strange is there still is a week between when the Challenger Series finishes in South America which is only a 12 hour plane ride away. I'm sure that place would've been better for the next best team from Europe that missed out on the Challenger Series or even better give it to Germany who I'm sure wouldn't have minded the week turn around.

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Postby 4N » Wed, 05 Feb 2020, 22:21

There are lots of Koreans in Southern California though which might help crowds.

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Postby carbonero » Wed, 05 Feb 2020, 23:09

nick511 wrote:I see that Korea has got a place a place on at least the LA Sevens, which is kinda strange...

South Korea qualified to the Olympics. WR is giving them the same treatment as Japan.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby victorsra » Wed, 05 Feb 2020, 23:22

I thought they'd give Korea the HK 7s spot, as they failed to qualify for the Sevens Challenger. But I guess the problem is if HK fails to finish Viña+Punta (the Challenger) in the Top 8. We'll most likely see Korea again in HK I believe.
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby victorsra » Wed, 05 Feb 2020, 23:24

thatrugbyguy wrote:The bottom quarterfinals help to fill out the space for the whole day, that's always been the case. Without them you're waiting 2 hours for next set of matches. Stupidest thing they did was not plan any of this correctly. Changing the format mid-season is only something WR could do. If the women are going to share some of the weekends then I'm sorry, the tournament has to be stretched to 3 days. It's as simple as that. You play the girls on the Friday, and have their finals spread in between the mens games on Saturday and Sunday. Compromising both tournaments for the sake of fitting them both in a 2 day period is only going to end with both suffering.


For now, it is a transition. If USA merges the women's and the men's series the problem is solved. Maybe we'll see this happening next year. Perhaps it was just a matter of Colorado having already a contract for 2019 or financial back or something like this. The same for Canada, with Langford (women's leg) and Vancouver (men's leg).

And definitely London should have in the future a women's leg (it had in the past) and Singapore a Challenger leg (as Singapore Sevens doesn't have the Singaporean national team, which is bizarre). All problems solved.

Again, the problem is not waiting for 2020-21 to have a new format, not the format itself.
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 09 Feb 2020, 01:20

So, when is Hong Kong being cancelled?

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Postby Canalina » Sun, 09 Feb 2020, 07:03

TheStroBro wrote:So, when is Hong Kong being cancelled?

I hadn't thought about this
And could China be forced to withdraw from the next women's circuit tournaments?

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby ihateblazers » Sun, 09 Feb 2020, 13:23

The Hong Kong sevens still went ahead during the SARS out outbreak in 2003 but this coronavirus seems to be more serious (only in terms of the widespread nature due to China's growth since 2003, fatality rate % is still low and there's too much hysteria IMO...). The HKRFU CEO has stated in the news recently that it will still go ahead, however, there are rumours that this will change...

To be fair they don't really need to make a decision until later on. If it is cancelled and they have to give refunds it won't make a difference if they do it now or later on.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby victorsra » Sun, 09 Feb 2020, 14:24

ihateblazers wrote:The Hong Kong sevens still went ahead during the SARS out outbreak in 2003 but this coronavirus seems to be more serious (only in terms of the widespread nature due to China's growth since 2003, fatality rate % is still low and there's too much hysteria IMO...). The HKRFU CEO has stated in the news recently that it will still go ahead, however, there are rumours that this will change...

To be fair they don't really need to make a decision until later on. If it is cancelled and they have to give refunds it won't make a difference if they do it now or later on.

Yes and all top division teams already have their travels payed so... No differnce. But the Challenger could change to avoid trouble.
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Rumpelstilzchen » Thu, 13 Feb 2020, 16:07

The Oktoberfest Sevens have announced this year's tournament takes place 19. & 20. September 2020, but no teams are confirmed yet.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby victorsra » Thu, 13 Feb 2020, 16:42

That's official, Singapore and Hong Kong will close the season in October.

https://www.world.rugby/sevens-series/news/559391
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Kettleoffish » Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 10:51

Heard that the Olympic qualifier will be played in Dublin on the weekend of 20/21 June.

Can’t see it has been confirmed anywhere, anyone have official confirmation?

In Dublin that weekend and will attend if correct. Assume will be in Donnybrook.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby sk 88 » Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 21:02

Sounds very World Rugby.

Was there any tendering process anyone is aware of?

Also of note, the Olympics teams only get decided c.6 weeks before it starts, but the RWC needs 3 years for the draw!

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