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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Thu, 17 Sep 2020, 16:41

For some time he remained stranded in a far island together with Robinson Crusoe, maybe this contributed to the fact that people know few of him :geek:

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Postby victorsra » Thu, 17 Sep 2020, 17:01

:lol:

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Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 06:22

Canalina wrote:For some time he remained stranded in a far island together with Robinson Crusoe, maybe this contributed to the fact that people know few of him :geek:

That was savage :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Canalina » Tue, 22 Sep 2020, 06:48

Canalina wrote:I would purpose this modification both in 7s (experimentally) and in XV (eventually)
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This 1850/1860 (?) sketch seems somehow confirming that in the early days of rugby the aim was to penetrate right behind the posts; the lateral zones of the nowadays try area were apparently ignored
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby NaBUru38 » Tue, 22 Sep 2020, 20:53

I hate when the ball carrier stand in the middle waiting for a rival to appear before putting the ball down.

And I love tries on the corners.

So I oppose discouraging them or making them harder.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 26 Sep 2020, 16:35

In this interview Pablo Feijóo claims around the 27th minute that current plan for Sevens World Series is holding five tournaments (Hong Kong, Singapore, Los Angeles, Vancouver and London) from April. Prior to that France will held two training tournaments in December for European, African and North American teams and Spain will try to organise two in February. Others will be held for Asian and Oceania teams:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=331026148180381

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Hernan14 » Sat, 26 Sep 2020, 17:35

Canalina wrote:
Canalina wrote:I would purpose this modification both in 7s (experimentally) and in XV (eventually)
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This 1850/1860 (?) sketch seems somehow confirming that in the early days of rugby the aim was to penetrate right behind the posts; the lateral zones of the nowadays try area were apparently ignored
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In reality it's the opposite, if you look where the punt-out is taking place in the sketch, clearly the try was scored in the lateral zone.

The player who receives the ball in the image, will try to get a goal from there, therefore, it is logical that the opposition is behind the poles :thumbup:


EDIT: In the past, that was the way to try to get the goal after scoring a try, a teammate behind the line punt-out the ball to another teammate, who would then make the mark, place the ball on the ground to kick trying the goal.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Sun, 27 Sep 2020, 04:34

It seems a very unlikely point from which attempting a goal, but in fact those team-fellows resting down on the grass seem confirming that it's a moment of the game where just the kicker and his punt-out fellow are involved.
So all those players under the posts are waiting for the punt-out to charge the kicker, I suppose

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby victorsra » Sun, 27 Sep 2020, 16:59

If you want, the first rugby rules of 1845 are here, complete: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Laws_of_ ... hool_(1845)

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby RugbyLiebe » Mon, 28 Sep 2020, 08:39

Canalina wrote:It seems a very unlikely point from which attempting a goal, but in fact those team-fellows resting down on the grass seem confirming that it's a moment of the game where just the kicker and his punt-out fellow are involved.
So all those players under the posts are waiting for the punt-out to charge the kicker, I suppose


Fascinating, that this really looks like a field goal/conversion attempt in American Football (minus some obvious changes). I always wondered why they did it that way.
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby IanCleverly » Wed, 30 Sep 2020, 14:44

A Rugby Sevens Cup (involving University teams rather than the nations event) will make it's debut in 2022

The International University Sports Federation (FISU) has confirmed dates for the next set of FISU University World Cup events, to be held through 2021 and 2022. A Rugby Sevens Cup is all set to make its debut in 2022. The sixth edition of the FISU University World Cup 3x3 Basketball will take place from 14-17 October 2021 in Xiamen, People’s Republic of China – the host city since the inaugural edition in 2015.

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The newest addition to the FISU University World Cup portfolio – the UWC Rugby Sevens – will take place from 12-14 August 2022 in Kazan, Russia. The city of Kazan has proved itself as a successful organizer of sports events and had hosted the 2013 FISU World University Games. Rugby Sevens has been a perennially popular sport on the FISU sports programme, with World University Championship events in Namibia, Great Britain and Brazil in recent years.

It was also on the programme at the summer edition of the World University Games in Kazan and in Naples, Italy, in 2019. FISU has enjoyed a strong collaboration with World Rugby in developing these events. The UWC Rugby Sevens will be a tournament with eight men’s teams and eight women’s teams.

https://www.fisu.net/news/rugby/dates-c ... -its-debut

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 09 Oct 2020, 12:44

Some sort of tournament is going to be played next week in Frankfurt. Spain is sending a team.

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Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 21 Oct 2020, 07:26

Armchair Fan wrote:Some sort of tournament is going to be played next week in Frankfurt. Spain is sending a team.


https://www.rugby-verband.de/news/wolfp ... and-23474/

Spain sent their wider World Series squad after the had a training camp for 5 weeks in the Sierra Nevada according to the article above.
Day one:
Germany vs. Spain (2 wins - 1 wins)
Germany development vs. Spain development (1 win - 2 wins)

Day two
Mixed teams (best+development)
Germany vs. Spain (2 wins, 1 draw, 1 win)
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 17:49

I was just thinking that it will be not easy also to complete the qualifiers to the RWC 7s 2022. The qualifying path has still to begin and rugby 7s seems like generally forgotten, shadowed by the XV's difficult situation (I think Rugby Europe not even communicated the cancellation of the Euro 7s 2020). In 2021 there are also the Olympic qualifying repechage and the Olympics themselves to be played

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Rugb ... Cup_Sevens

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 17 Dec 2020, 10:29

Some news from World Rugby today:
- Monaco will host the Olympic repechage, 19-20 June
- Madrid will host two official preseason events on 20-21 and 27-28 February, 2021 with 12 teams involved
- Singapore and Hong Kong moved to 29-30 October and 5-7 November with Hong Kong acting as Sevens World Series finale
- Challenger Series in late 2021

https://www.world.rugby/sevens-series/n ... o-olympics

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby victorsra » Thu, 17 Dec 2020, 18:45

So the2021 World Rugby Sevens Series will be just a small thing.

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Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 22 Dec 2020, 09:13

Team GB for 2021 season:
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/artic ... s-funding/

It should be good news for T2 rugby but I worry it may imply a reduction to 12 teams or Wales being exempt from relegation...

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby victorsra » Tue, 22 Dec 2020, 14:30

We don't realy know how the Sevens Series will work before the Olympics.... it might not happen at all before Tokyo.

The question not answered is if this could become permanent. By the Scottish answer, it will be just for 2021: https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/55399788

Anyway, it would be logical to invite Japan and Korea for the remaining core spots for 2021, as both are qualified to the Olympics. After that, the question is indeed how would relegation work and if Scotland and Wales would be back in 2022.

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Postby Chester-Donnelly » Tue, 22 Dec 2020, 20:48

I wish this means Team GB replaces 3 teams permanently, making way for two more teams. I am sure this isn't what Scotland wants, but if they cannot afford to fund their own sevens team then it could potentially continue until the next Olympic Games.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Tue, 22 Dec 2020, 20:52

World Rugby should make the decision for them, and make the World Series for Olympic Teams only. Maybe the Sevens World Cup and of course the Commonwealth Games could be for the individual national teams, so the Scottish sevens team doesn't become extinct.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby victorsra » Tue, 22 Dec 2020, 21:28

Chester-Donnelly wrote:World Rugby should make the decision for them, and make the World Series for Olympic Teams only. Maybe the Sevens World Cup and of course the Commonwealth Games could be for the individual national teams, so the Scottish sevens team doesn't become extinct.


I agree. But the Home Nations alone have 12 votes in the WR Council + the chairman.... WR won't impose them anything.,

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Wed, 23 Dec 2020, 00:36

victorsra wrote:
Chester-Donnelly wrote:World Rugby should make the decision for them, and make the World Series for Olympic Teams only. Maybe the Sevens World Cup and of course the Commonwealth Games could be for the individual national teams, so the Scottish sevens team doesn't become extinct.


I agree. But the Home Nations alone have 12 votes in the WR Council + the chairman.... WR won't impose them anything.,


This stinks. The primary point of having Rugby Sevens as an Olympic sport is to share it with the world. Yet, of the 16 teams in the World Series, only two (Kenya and Spain) are not regular RWC nations, and three (England, Scotland and Wales) are not even Olympic nations. Meanwhile, Germany and Hong Kong are banging on the door.

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Postby germanbullsfan » Sat, 26 Dec 2020, 14:25

And they will do so, forever!

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby victorsra » Sat, 26 Dec 2020, 22:33

The Sevens Series is not the most popular thing and it is a bit silly to think Wales and Scotland want to waste money on sevens just to "develop new players". IMO, the problem is they are part of the Commonwealth Games. If they eliminate their sevens teams, they won't have a chance in the Commonwealth Games.

Do Welsh and Scottish fans care about the Commonwealth Games? Is there money for their sevens from local Commonwealth Games national bodies?

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Sat, 26 Dec 2020, 22:42

victorsra wrote:The Sevens Series is not the most popular thing and it is a bit silly to think Wales and Scotland want to waste money on sevens just to "develop new players". IMO, the problem is they are part of the Commonwealth Games. If they eliminate their sevens teams, they won't have a chance in the Commonwealth Games.

Do Welsh and Scottish fans care about the Commonwealth Games? Is there money for their sevens from local Commonwealth Games national bodies?


I would say they do care about the Commonwealth Games. But funding for their sevens teams will come from the WRU and the SRU. There's no other funding for that.

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