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Re: Last countries without rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 23 Dec 2020, 14:15

But sevens isn't independent. Which means in order to play sevens in an Olympic qualy Albania must be a Rugby Europe (Rugby Union) member anyway. There isn't an alternative for that.

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Postby zzatelo » Wed, 23 Dec 2020, 14:22

victorsra wrote:But sevens isn't independent. Which means in order to play sevens in an Olympic qualy Albania must be a Rugby Europe (Rugby Union) member anyway. There isn't an alternative for that.




Exactly, we are all prepared for this we know the rules and legislation very well . Dont forget that any olimpic team and sport representative goes through the Olipic Comity of eac country , and yes you need to be part of RU , wich no one intend to do that. Only with state politics things might change if the state decides to inves in 7s as a olimpic sport, people in charge here might "think" to fullfill the state request . But this is not.the case

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Postby Youshave » Wed, 23 Dec 2020, 15:21

I have found all list here https://www.olympic.org/ioc-members-list so please check it for your requirement

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Postby Rumpelstilzchen » Wed, 23 Dec 2020, 18:23

victorsra wrote:Hey, just saw Tahiti is not included as WR member anymore: https://www.world.rugby/organisation/membership

Suspended? We haven't seen a word, right? So, 127 members.

This is a mystery to me, too. In this article from 2019 they say the union was suspended: "Problème, si cette dernière a bien localement la délégation de service public, elle n’est toujours pas reconnue par les instances océaniennes et internationales qui ont pour l’instant suspendu la fédération tahitienne mais ne l’ont pas révoquée bien qu’elle soit désormais inexistante." But they're still listed in the rankings and WR still counted them in November.

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 19 Feb 2021, 22:42

Finaly most mistakes were corrected (Solomon Islands, Israel, Guatemala) https://www.world.rugby/organisation/membership

Tahiti is still out, so this probably means a real suspension.

In the other hand Azerbaijan is still in World Rugby's list (and incorrectly listed as Asia), but not in Rugby Europe's members list (confusing): https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/rugby-europe-members/ I checked Asia Rugby's list, to see if a surprising move happened, and it doesn't look like https://www.asiarugby.com/unions/

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UPDATE OF COUNTRIES THAT AREN'T MEMBERS OF WORLD RUGBY/CONTINENTAL UNIONS

List of IOC-eligible countries

Unclear status

EUROPE: Azerbaijan (listed by World Rugby, not listed anymore by Rugby Europe)

Former members of the Continental Unions:

EUROPE: Greece (former World Rugby member as well, suspended/not listed anymore, but alive), Armenia (dissolved, reborn)

NORTH AMERICA: St. Kitts and Nevis (unclear)

AFRICA: Mauritania (suspended/not listed anymore)

OCEANIA: Tahiti (suspension unclear) (former World Rugby member as well)

FORMER FIRA: North Korea (out in 1997)


Countries with other rugby organizations membership (non-World Rugby member)

Arab Rugby Federation


AFRICA: Sudan, Libya (both with some unclear relationship with Rugby Africa)

ASIA: Palestine


Indic Ocean Rugby Association


AFRICA: Comoros


Countries working with sports organizations (continental unions, NOCs, Sports Ministries...)

EUROPE: Kosovo (Sports Ministry)

NORTH AMERICA: Cuba (Instituto Nacional de Deportes)

ASIA: Vietnam (Asia Rugby)

OCEANIA: Kiribati (Oceania Rugby)


Countries with active national teams in the past 10 years - 7s at least

NORTH AMERICA: Aruba (2019), US Virgin Islands (2016), Haiti (2015), Puerto Rico (2012?)


Countries with rugby news (clubs or projects) but no national team in the past 10 years

ASIA: Myanmar, Bhutan, Tajikstan, Kuwait, Oman, Bahrain, Timor Leste

AFRICA: Ethiopia, Angola, Gambia, Liberia, South Sudan, Djibouti, Cape Verde, Guiné Bissau, Equatorial Guinea, Somalia

NORTH AMERICA: Antigua & Barbuda

EUROPE: North Macedonia, Albania (League now)

OCEANIA: Micronesia, Palau


Countries with at least active beach rugby

ASIA: Maldives


Countries without active rugby (no references)

ASIA: Yemen, Turkmenistan;

AFRICA: Eritrea, São Tomé and Príncipe;

NORTH AMERICA (RAN zone): Suriname*, Grenada, Dominica;

OCEANIA: Marshall Islands;

*Not sure

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Non-IOC-eligible territories (included countries with disputed recognition)

Countries with active national teams in the past 10 years - 7s at least

EUROPE: Gibraltar, Jersey, Guernsey

OCEANIA: Tokelau


Territories recognised by the French Rugby Federation

NORTH AMERICA: Saint Martin, Saint Barthélemy, Saint Pierre & Miquelon

AFRICA: Mayotte, Reunion


With rugby clubs but no national team in the past 10 years

EUROPE: Northern Cyprus, Transnistria, Åland, Isle of Man, Alderney, Sark

NORTH AMERICA: Anguilla, Bonaire, Saint Martin, Saint Barthélemy, Saint Pierre & Miquelon, Greenland (tag/touch indoor rugby)

OCEANIA: Northern Marianas, Bougainville (independence process)


Without active rugby (no references)

EUROPE: Vatican**, Faroe Islands, Artsakh, Abkhazia*, South Ossetia*

NORTH AMERICA: Montserrat, Sint Maarten, Saba, Sint Eustatius

AFRICA: Western Sahara, Somaliland, Saint Helena & Dependencies

OCEANIA: Norfolk Island, Christmas Island, Cocos Islands, Pitcairn Islands

SOUTH AMERICA: Falkland Islands*


*Not sure about local rugby scene

**Could be IOC-member but it isn't

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Postby mcruic » Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 23:31

Countries with active national teams in the past 10 years - 7s at least

EUROPE: Gibraltar, Jersey, Guernsey

The "big" inter-island game is the Siam Cup, which is between club teams, not national teams.

The other "inter insular" is played between selections of the junior clubs in Jersey and Guernsey, and is developmental. So I'm not sure Guernsey and Jersey have true representative national teams, as the best players from the island who play for professional clubs do not play in the inter insular.

Falkland Islands has a rugby club (Falkland Islands RFC):

A picture from their 3-match series against the British Forces South Atlantic Islands (BFSAI) Mount Pleasant Camp.

https://scontent.fltn1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=605C8025

Saint Helena - apparently someone tried to start 7s there - but it doesn't look like it was very successful.
http://theroonba.com Results, fixtures, rankings

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Postby mcruic » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 01:19

Puerto Rico

The game in 2012 (4 February) was San Juan Rugby Club 5-22 British Virgin Islands. In a BVI news article, the Puerto Rican club are described as "a mixture of local youngsters and experienced Argentine and American players".

"http://www.virginislandsnewsonline.com/en/news/ruck-maul-rugby-brings-vi-victory-over-puerto-rico

Whether we consider this a true Puerto Rican "national" team depends whether or not the Argentines and Americans were naturalised or could be considered Puerto Ricans through residency.

Also, how about Antarctica? :D

https://blogs.agu.org/wildwildscience/2 ... ntarctica/
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Re: Last countries without rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 20:36

Thanks, McRuic

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UPDATE OF COUNTRIES THAT AREN'T MEMBERS OF WORLD RUGBY/CONTINENTAL UNIONS

List of IOC-eligible countries

Unclear status

EUROPE: Azerbaijan (listed by World Rugby, not listed anymore by Rugby Europe)

Former members of the Continental Unions:

EUROPE: Greece (former World Rugby member as well, suspended/not listed anymore, but alive), Armenia (dissolved, reborn)

NORTH AMERICA: St. Kitts and Nevis (unclear)

AFRICA: Mauritania (suspended/not listed anymore)

OCEANIA: Tahiti (suspension unclear) (former World Rugby member as well)

FORMER FIRA: North Korea (out in 1997)


Countries with other rugby organizations membership (non-World Rugby member)

Arab Rugby Federation


AFRICA: Sudan, Libya (both with some unclear relationship with Rugby Africa)

ASIA: Palestine


Indic Ocean Rugby Association


AFRICA: Comoros


Countries working with sports organizations (continental unions, NOCs, Sports Ministries...)

EUROPE: Kosovo (Sports Ministry)

NORTH AMERICA: Cuba (Instituto Nacional de Deportes)

ASIA: Vietnam (Asia Rugby)

OCEANIA: Kiribati (Oceania Rugby)


Countries with active national teams in the past 10 years - 7s at least

NORTH AMERICA: Aruba (2019), US Virgin Islands (2016), Haiti (2015)


Countries with rugby news (clubs or projects) but no national team in the past 10 years

ASIA: Myanmar, Bhutan, Tajikstan, Kuwait, Oman, Bahrain, Timor Leste

AFRICA: Ethiopia, Angola, Gambia, Liberia, South Sudan, Djibouti, Cape Verde, Guiné Bissau, Equatorial Guinea, Somalia

NORTH AMERICA: Antigua & Barbuda, Puerto Rico

EUROPE: North Macedonia, Albania (League now)

OCEANIA: Micronesia, Palau


Countries with at least active beach rugby

ASIA: Maldives


Countries without active rugby (no references)

ASIA: Yemen, Turkmenistan;

AFRICA: Eritrea, São Tomé and Príncipe;

NORTH AMERICA (RAN zone): Suriname*, Grenada, Dominica;

OCEANIA: Marshall Islands;

*Not sure

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Non-IOC-eligible territories (included countries with disputed recognition)

Countries with active national teams in the past 10 years - 7s at least

EUROPE: Gibraltar

OCEANIA: Tokelau


Territories recognised by the French Rugby Federation

NORTH AMERICA: Saint Martin, Saint Barthélemy, Saint Pierre & Miquelon

AFRICA: Mayotte, Reunion


With rugby clubs but no national team in the past 10 years

EUROPE: Northern Cyprus, Transnistria, Åland, Isle of Man, Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney, Sark

AFRICA: Saint Helena

NORTH AMERICA: Anguilla, Bonaire, Saint Martin, Saint Barthélemy, Saint Pierre & Miquelon, Greenland (tag/touch indoor rugby)

SOUTH AMERICA: Falkland Islands

OCEANIA: Northern Marianas, Bougainville (independence process)

ANTARCTICA https://blogs.agu.org/wildwildscience/2 ... ntarctica/ :lol:


Without active rugby (no references)

EUROPE: Vatican**, Faroe Islands, Artsakh, Abkhazia*, South Ossetia*

NORTH AMERICA: Montserrat, Sint Maarten, Saba, Sint Eustatius

AFRICA: Western Sahara, Somaliland, Ascension, Tristan of Cunha

OCEANIA: Norfolk Island, Christmas Island, Cocos Islands, Pitcairn Islands


*Not sure about local rugby scene

**Could be IOC-member but it isn't

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 09 Mar 2021, 23:55

On rugby in San Marino

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Postby Canalina » Fri, 26 Mar 2021, 16:32

A RAN article about rugby in Cuba. The national federation was born in 2015 and they're trying to become a RAN associated member but the task is not easy

https://rugbyamericasnorth.com/alexande ... y-in-cuba/

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Re: Last countries without rugby

Postby Canalina » Tue, 06 Apr 2021, 17:20

Kiribati Rugby seems quite active at school level but, despite "Kiribati Rugby" would seem a different thing from "Kiribati Rugby Touch", they play touch.
They've also a girls school tournament and this is at first glance quite impressive, but at the end of the day the main island has two times the inhabitants of San Marino so it can't be surprising that in that rugby-zones they have quite boys and girls to organize rugby tournaments.
It's instead surprising to me that 120,000 people may live in those little, thin islands and indeed wikipedia says that the population of the main isles is becoming more and more an over-population and that they're by now too many to have everyone a good amount of clear water

Kiribati Rugby https://www.facebook.com/Kiribati-Rugby ... 307628195/
Kiribati Rugby Touch https://www.facebook.com/KiribatiRugbyTouch/
Kiribati Tag https://www.facebook.com/KiribatiTFA/

Hope this is not too much sexist but the president of the Kiribati Tag association must be one of the cutest national sport presidents in the world https://www.facebook.com/KiribatiTFA/ph ... 002127147/

It's curios that the name "Kiribati" is the local version of "Gilbert". This reminds the japanese base language, which has not the letter L and replaces it with R and that forms the words by consonant-vowel syllables (hope to be correct). For example "Italy", in japanese, becomes "Itara". "Christmas" in Kiribati language is "Kiritimati".

Kiribati is HUGE by extension, I didn't know this. From the most western island to the most eastern is more or less as big as Australia...

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