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Re: Political Thread

Postby STMKY » Wed, 01 Jul 2020, 10:41

In the modern sense, in Russia the concept of Anglo-Saxon extends not only to England. And also to the USA, Australia and New Zealand. That is, to those states where the Anglo-Saxon elite rules their own hands. The term Anglo-Saxon Empire is sometimes used. First of all, we are always talking about the elite, because even ethnically Anglo-Saxons can be in the minority as in the United States. Where even among whites there are more Irish and Germans.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby amz » Wed, 01 Jul 2020, 12:54

Vova12 wrote:Kiev is an old Russian city, Odessa was founded by Catherine II after she captured these lands from Turks, and foundation of Riga has nothing to do with Russia ...


Debatable. Kievan Rus is not the same thing with with Muscovite Rus. the first Kievan state declined while Moscow raised under the Mongol yoke at some point claimed a higher status so fabricated this legend that it originate into Kievan Rus. But at the time when Kievans has at its highest, Moscow was a village with uncertain ethnicity, some Finno-Ugric tribes may claim Moscow if they used some of the current Russian propaganda principles ;) But on its way to gain the first place among mostly Slavic states of the area, felt the need to fabricate a greater past. Same happened with the title of Czar, a corrupted for for Caesar albeit there was no tradition of an empire...

Odessa was founded by Turks with Romanian colonists from Moldavia, it was called even by Russians Moldovanka. When Russia conquered the area, the town existed anyway, just changed its name and took over from where Ottomans left it.

Vova12 wrote:Russia Unveiled a Spectacular Monument Dedicated to Soviet Warriors - Rzhev Memorial to Soviet



This is the Tver region, I have a house there ...


That is a spectacular and well deserved monument for those who give their lives fighting nazism. Too bad they lost their lives fighting for a regime as criminal.

Chester-Donnelly wrote:Why this obsession with Anglo-Saxons? Who are the Anglo-Saxons? If you mean the English we haven't been Anglo-Saxons for about 900 years. The Anglo-Saxons were not particularly impressive. They built out of wood. They weren't particularly interested in building cities. The Romans and Normans have a lot of what they built still remaining in Britain. From the Anglo-Saxons we have very little. An old rusty helmet and a poem. We have more from the ancient Britons than we do from the Anglo-Saxons. The Britons were more cultured than the Anglo-Saxons.


There's also an inferiority complex in this, not only ignorance. Authoritharian regimes feel the need to label the outsiders with easy to remember tags and slander it.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby STMKY » Wed, 01 Jul 2020, 13:25

You have now written an absolute fiction that the Nazis invaders came up with in Kiev before the Maidan. It crumbles easily. A state like Kievan Rus never existed. The same is Moscow Russia. Kievan Rus is a generalized name invented by historians in the 19th century for the period in the history of Russia, when the city of Kiev was the capital of ancient Russian lands. But we had many different capitals. Ladoga, Novgorod, Kiev, Vladimir, Moscow, Petrograd ... I hope soon there will be a new capital of Russia in Siberia.
If there were no Odessa. But then the Russian army would not have freed you from the Turks. These are interconnected things. Russian Odessa = independent Romania. By the way, in Moldova missed time. There was a chance to negotiate with Russia. I won’t be surprised if our strategists will include Romania in Moldova.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 01 Jul 2020, 13:30

Moscow is territory of Vladimir-Suzdal principality. Сapital has changed to Moscow.
This principality was strongest in Rus before Mongol invasion. After Mongol invasion Principality of Kiev was completely destroyed and people fled to North.
When Plano Carpini passed Kiev there were 200 houses ...
And tales about fact that Russians are not Slavs, but Mongols we mostly hear from Poles and their lackeys Ukrainians)


Ukrainian is a traitor to faith (they Catholics), names of people (they were Russian) and state (Rus). Germans invented them 120 years ago.
Therefore this country is now a European colony and its citizens are European slaves.

Odessa was called under Turks Hadzhibey, all who wanted to stay in city when Russian troops arrived.
Odessa during Turks.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 01 Jul 2020, 13:41

amz wrote:
That is a spectacular and well deserved monument for those who give their lives fighting nazism. Too bad they lost their lives fighting for a regime as criminal.


I sure that only Stalin and communist regime could protect country in II WW.
It was Stalin, not Gorbachev and Yeltsin for example.
Therefore for me these crimes of regime are justified.

Slavs of Russia were threatned with destruction, degradation and depopulation.
Destruction of education and loss of their own country.

Therefore all this was justified.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 01 Jul 2020, 13:45

There has never been a country like Kievan Rus; this is a term coined in the 19 century.
Сountry was called Russian Land.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 01 Jul 2020, 13:54

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Re: Political Thread

Postby STMKY » Wed, 01 Jul 2020, 14:08

The capitals of Russia:
Ladoga (862-864)
Novgorod (864-882)
In 882, Prince of Novgorod Oleg Veshchiy captured Kiev, which from then on became the capital of Russia.
Kiev (882-1243)
Vladimir (1243-1389)
Moscow (1389-1712)
Petrograd (1712-1918)
Moscow (1918-

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Re: Political Thread

Postby amz » Wed, 01 Jul 2020, 14:35

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Political Thread

Postby STMKY » Wed, 01 Jul 2020, 16:18

:lol: :lol: :lol:
For this I love this forum. Such democracy is not found in any other rugby website in the world. Reddit is complete bullshit!

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Wed, 01 Jul 2020, 17:07

STMKY wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:
For this I love this forum. Such democracy is not found in any other rugby website in the world. Reddit is complete bullshit!


I agree with you there. Reddit is as bad as Twitter.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 01 Jul 2020, 18:27

I just dont understand why guy from Istanbul was banned, in my opinion it was unfair.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Thu, 02 Jul 2020, 01:34

After kneeling for the Marxist antisemitic anarchist organisation Black Lives Matter, the leader of the opposition is now disagreeing with their number one policy of defunding the police. At least he isn't looking as ridiculous as the Premier League who have Black Lives Matter printed on every football shirt, and are now accusing Black Lives Matter of hijacking Black Lives Matter. So they've hijacked themselves. So what have the Premier League done then? They have hijacked Black Lives Matter and now they wish they didn't have the name of a Marxist anarchist organisation printed all over their shirts. This is about as embarrassing as the British royal family giving Nazi salutes.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 02 Jul 2020, 08:31

Russian voters overwhelmingly back a ploy by President Vladimir Putin to rule until 2036

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/01/euro ... index.html
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 02 Jul 2020, 08:31

I think Putin will leave in 2024
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Re: Political Thread

Postby amz » Thu, 02 Jul 2020, 08:35

Vova12 wrote:Russian voters overwhelmingly back a ploy by President Vladimir Putin to rule until 2036

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/01/euro ... index.html


And you think this is good?

Vova12 wrote:I think Putin will leave in 2024


for a person who lived in the days of Soviet Union, if you really believe this, I think you're naive. For example here there were rumors after each re-elections that was Ceausescu's last and he will not run for the next one. It was just rumor spread by secret police, nothing more, he never had that intention.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 02 Jul 2020, 08:38

These are real numbers. Putin has great authority in Russia.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby STMKY » Thu, 02 Jul 2020, 08:49

Putin will not go anywhere. If he cannot show us his competent and authoritative successor. The Russian people will not let go. Why do you think this referendum was? Because for many years people criticized the liberal constitution of 1993, which Yeltsin and the Anglo-Saxons wrote to us. The main issues of the referendum: the priority of Russian law over international laws (it used to be the other way around), the status of the Russian language and our history, the inviolability of the borders of Russia, and traditional values. And the ability to choose Putin until 2036 is a pleasant bonus for the people.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 03 Jul 2020, 06:00

Thieves use lockdown as cover for EU Parliament burglaries

Parliament’s security service is under fire after scores of legislators have items stolen.


https://www.politico.eu/article/robberi ... ronavirus/
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 03 Jul 2020, 17:38

India bought 21 MiG-29 fighters and began upgrading 59 available of them

https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2020/07/0 ... e-of-them/

They will be idiots if the West uses them against China.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 04 Jul 2020, 18:27

Russian Foreign Ministry: US intelligence involved in drug trafficking.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 05 Jul 2020, 15:55

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Six Formula 1 pilots refused to kneel in protest against racism.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Sun, 05 Jul 2020, 16:28

This is great news. F1 is not a sport for cowards.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby STMKY » Sun, 05 Jul 2020, 17:11

According to this logic, the Queen of England should abdicate. Instead, there should be a new dynasty from Africa. Only I will understand this logic. Otherwise, it's a simple circus.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby STMKY » Sun, 05 Jul 2020, 17:53

This topic is not yours. This is a forum, not a personal blog.

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