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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby victorsra » Wed, 17 Feb 2021, 15:06

I think he was basicaly expecting a more elaborate answer, with more than just that.

But anyway, most athletes don't have interesting things to say, usualy.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 17 Feb 2021, 15:42

thatrugbyguy wrote:I honestly don't see the issue with that interview. There's nothing about it that comes across as demeaning or sexist.

There is sexism. A different question is how big a deal do we consider it. An interview as preview of the first Rugby Europe women test match in a year where a single question/answer is properly related to the game is a poor effort. One could even understand such a take from a local newspaper, but in the website of a union, well...

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Wed, 17 Feb 2021, 17:15

Despite what an irish player said not many days ago ("the whole calendar is now written with the pencil, and with a big eraser on the side to be ready to cancel all..."), the scheme of the euro qualifiers seems now quite certain, according to a pair of articles from Ireland and Spain

The qualifiers should start with the semifinals
#1 v #4
#2 v #3

#1 is certainly Italy (because of the world ranking)
#2 is certainly Ireland
#3 could be Spain (if Spain won the Euro Championship) or Scotland (if Russia or Netherlands won the Euro Champ'ship)
#4 could be Scotland (if Spain won the Euro Championship) or Russia/Netherlands (if Russia or Netherlands won the Euro Champ'ship)

I suppose the semifinals will be in a one only game on the field of the best ranked team, but details about this aspect have not emerged as far as I know

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Thu, 18 Feb 2021, 07:31

The russian coach

About the composition:
“It is certainly not perfect, as 15 girls left for the 7s national team. I would have taken some of them, but considering what important tasks the 7s team have, we agreed that we would try to do without them. However, in the roster, many are not new to the format, they have been playing with me for the last five years”.

Lack of playing practice:
“We don't have it - because there is nowhere. We do not have a Russian championship [I didn't know this], we do not participate in any international tournament. Our team last played against the Netherlands almost a year ago. But now, at this time of the coronavirus, it is, of course, more difficult for Spanish women. Previously, they had ten teams and a rugby-15 championship. And now, judging by what I could find, they also have problems with this [but the Liga Iberdrola managed to play some rounds]. But all the same - they are the participants of the World Cup, the European champions ... The opponent is very serious and will certainly prepare very seriously”.

About the physical form of the team:
“I think the main squad is well prepared. But in general, now the organization of the game is such that, if you follow it, you do not need physical super training. You need to do your job accurately and do not need to do someone else's work. After all, the most conscientious and proactive players who began to work for others were the first to “gorge” themselves. And then they could not solve their problem. If everyone works for themselves, but in good faith, sometimes I help those who are around a little bit, then a lot of strength will remain. The main task before us now is to withstand the appointed fight. Like the men's team was in Tbilisi. And they sort of did it. If we cope, too, then our chances will be much equal”.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 18 Feb 2021, 09:53

Rugby Europe finally published that interview... At least they did it in a way that seems to give more context about the game
https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/news/it-s-a- ... amous-win/

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 18 Feb 2021, 10:00

Canalina wrote:The russian coach

But now, at this time of the coronavirus, it is, of course, more difficult for Spanish women. Previously, they had ten teams and a rugby-15 championship. And now, judging by what I could find, they also have problems with this [but the Liga Iberdrola managed to play some rounds].

Yes, it's not perfect because the season only started in December (Russia played their national 7s league over the summer and autumn), but not only Liga Iberdrola restarted. There are around 50 active women's XV teams right now in Spain (down from over a 100 last season) as both national divisions are underway and from January some regional competitions came back as well (Valencia, Andalucía, Castilla y León, Madrid, Basque Country). More important it's the fact that the previous national team training camp had to be called off due to COVID positive tests...

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 18 Feb 2021, 21:23

Interviewed by El Tercer Tiempo COPE, Spanish head coach says they still have in their plans that the following RWC qualifier step would be played March 13th... I find that really tight.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Thu, 18 Feb 2021, 22:56

Also according to an article of two weeks ago by the italian main private rugby media, OnRugby, the qualifiers dates are tentatively still March 14 and 21 (https://www.onrugby.it/2021/02/03/sei-n ... temporale/), but Italy is not training, they had just a camp between 8-10 January. So I doubt they are really thinking to play a so important game in three weeks

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby armchair_expert » Fri, 19 Feb 2021, 01:35

5 games in a 6-week period for Italy, Ireland and Scotland, 4 games in a 4-week period for Spain - same kind of schedule these teams would have in a non-exceptional year

with all this bubbles and isolation stuff and with most players being amateurs it should be important to have all games in one block

and the original format was home and away semi-finals and a single leg final - I guess they changed it to single leg SFs and a single leg final

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby victorsra » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 15:01

What's the streaming without geoblock for Spain-Russia?

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 15:05

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7wnzm1

Canalina, there was a drop goal!

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 15:14

:P

And these russians, without perhaps their best players, seem strong!

3-7 after 16'

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby victorsra » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 15:16

If Russia wins, they advance.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Thomas » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 15:46

Very lively first half. love the last try from Sanchez.

20 - 7.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby victorsra » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 15:50

pretty decent game from Russia, but Spain is in another level. Anyway, Russia shows that women's XV deserves expansion

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Thomas » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 15:58

definitely, Russia is showing good fight. but Spanish quality is starting to shine

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 16:05

victorsra wrote:pretty decent game from Russia, but Spain is in another level. Anyway, Russia shows that women's XV deserves expansion

It deserves that at least not only one Rugby Europe team is given the shot at RWC qualifiers... :roll:

It proves too that it was pointless to restrict 2017 qualifiers to teams with XV leagues.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby victorsra » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 16:08

Yes, Ireland, Italy, Scotland and Spain are all RWC level.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 16:10

victorsra wrote:Yes, Ireland, Italy, Scotland and Spain are all RWC level.

I'm not questioning that. I get that RWC or Olympics need to have international representation and that 7 teams from Europe it's too much. I question why Netherlands or Russia can never have access to a game against a W6N side. At least one every four years, just to test them.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby victorsra » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 16:13

16 teams could be:

7 Europe = FRA, ENG, IRE, ITA, WAL, SCO, SPA
2 Americas = USA, CAN
3 Oceania = NZL, AUS, FIJ
1 Asia = JAP
1 Oceania-Asia = SAM? HK?
1 Africa = SAF
1 Repechage (with 1 Europe, 1 South America, 1 Africa and 1 Oceania-Asia) = RUS, COL, KEN, HK/SAM

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby victorsra » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 16:22

Armchair Fan wrote:
victorsra wrote:Yes, Ireland, Italy, Scotland and Spain are all RWC level.

I'm not questioning that. I get that RWC or Olympics need to have international representation and that 7 teams from Europe it's too much. I question why Netherlands or Russia can never have access to a game against a W6N side. At least one every four years, just to test them.


Sure.

IMO, 7 spots for Europe should be:

- 5 best teams of the W6N;
- REWC champions;
- W6N 6th vs REWC Runners up - winner = RWC, loser = Repechage;

But the rumours about a proper women's World League after the pandemics are strong and could help at least Spain to have a strong calendar. AFAIK it advanced much more than the men's World League inside World Rugby, as I heard. But, let's wait for proper news.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 16:28

Armchair Fan wrote:...
It proves too that it was pointless to restrict 2017 qualifiers to teams with XV leagues.

I think that law has a positive intent: build a local movement, don't just assemble a team every four years

Spain dominating the score now, 51-7

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 16:39

Canalina wrote:
Armchair Fan wrote:It proves too that it was pointless to restrict 2017 qualifiers to teams with XV leagues.

I think that law has a positive intent: build a local movement, don't just assemble a team every four years

We say in Spain that "the hell is full of good intentions" :lol:

I get the reasoning behind that rule, but it massively impoverished the fight for RWC tickets.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 16:54

We have it in Italy too: "la via per l'inferno è lastricata di buone intenzioni!" (the way to the hell is paved by good intentions) :)

I think Russia is mathematically out of the World Cup; it's the tenth eliminated team, or the eleventh if we consider the renouncing Germany

Spain 5 pts
Russia 4
Netherlands 1

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Thomas » Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 17:25

In Mexico is this : el camino al infierno esta lleno de buenas intenciones. similarly to Italian.

If Spain does the business then everything is moot and bring on Ireland.

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