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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby mcruic » Wed, 01 Apr 2020, 10:00

johnbirch wrote:As for the level, there was little to choose between this match and Netherlands v Russia. Colombia beating Kenya would be no surprise. Beyond that? They'd give Samoa a good game perhaps but not sure about Hong Kong/Kaz, or whoever the European team might be.


I'd say both Hong Kong and Kazakhstan are at a similar level to Samoa, and Netherlands and Russia are also at a similar level. So Colombia could give any of these teams a good game (and vice versa of course!). In my women's rankings, I have:

15. Samoa
16. Kazakhstan
17. Colombia
18. Hong Kong
19. Netherlands
22. Russia

But with Russia on an upward trend, there is literally nothing to choose between all of these teams. I'd put Kenya a little further behind (27th), so Colombia should beat them in the play-off, whenever that might happen...
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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Fri, 17 Apr 2020, 06:32

Ferns World Cup dilemma

The closeness between the Olympics and the World Cup could be a problem for several NZ players, according to a PNG article
https://postcourier.com.pg/ferns-world-cup-dilemma/

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Wed, 06 May 2020, 11:51

500 days to the World Cup

https://allsportdb.com/Sports/Rugby

Will they be enough to defeat the virus?

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sat, 23 May 2020, 12:23

Hong Kong training path to the WCQ

Hull’s squad are now on a four-week return to a training programme, which is geared around gradual increments to avoid injuries, in the hope of resuming full practices soon.
World Rugby is expected to make a statement at the end of the month about rescheduling tournaments, Hull said. “The girls are ready to go. Once they make that announcement we can hit the ground running.”


http://www.scmp.com/sport/rugby/article ... -cup-dream

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Tue, 02 Jun 2020, 07:52

Ireland's Anna Caplice says she’s still targeting World Cup qualifiers in September

http://www.newschain.uk/sport/womens-sp ... ember-5258

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 02 Jun 2020, 09:14

With absolutely no rugby being played right now and two Rugby Europe games still to be played there is no way how qualifiers can stay in September.

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Postby ugrugbychiclet » Tue, 02 Jun 2020, 12:07

Rugby Africa has cancelled all the 2020 competitions. http://www.rugbyafrique.com/rugby-afric ... s/?lang=fr

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Tue, 02 Jun 2020, 14:37

It will be not easy to complete the qualifying path.
The game with less obstacles, at the moment, appears to be Samoa v Tonga: according to the official data not even one case of covid was ever registered in the two countries.

Maybe, if the european games can't be played before, they could use the Six Nations 2021 as part of the qualifiers: the best placed between Ireland, Italy and Scotland qualifies to the World Cup, and the second best placed play with (Spain) for a spot in the repechage tournament. Or, to be more equanimous, (Spain) could play firstly versus the best placed for a direct qualification and then eventually, in case of loss, versus the second best placed; but in this case just a weekend of games would be spared respect to the original program

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Wed, 03 Jun 2020, 20:52

Asia Rugby decided to postpone the restart of the activity at least to the beginning of october, so the three RWC qualifying games (between Japan, Hong Kong and Kazakhstan) will not be played before that period.
Theoretically they could play the asian tournament in October and the repechage tournament in November, but of course the chance that this last tournament goes ahead in that month as programmed becomes now even more tiny

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby johnbirch » Sun, 07 Jun 2020, 12:14

Canalina wrote:Asia Rugby decided to postpone the restart of the activity at least to the beginning of october, so the three RWC qualifying games (between Japan, Hong Kong and Kazakhstan) will not be played before that period.
Theoretically they could play the asian tournament in October and the repechage tournament in November, but of course the chance that this last tournament goes ahead in that month as programmed becomes now even more tiny

Slight problem - no teams have qualified for the repechage yet. Europe has to complete the European Cup AND the European qualifier, Oceania has to play Tonga v Samoa, and Colombia have to travel Kenya.

The the World Cup fixed for September, and the Olympics in August, things are getting serious. Any significant "second wave" and there is going to have to be a serious rethink.

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Postby johnbirch » Sun, 07 Jun 2020, 12:18

I also wonder about New Zealand, as a nation. Having eliminated the virus are they really going to welcome plane loads of sportswomen and fans from major COVID-infected areas like the UK and USA?

The women's cricket world cup comes first - it will be interesting to see how that goes.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Thomas » Sun, 07 Jun 2020, 13:20

The other issue that comes into play is financial necessity. how long can NZ hold out without foreign capital and tourism coming in that helps rural communities?

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sun, 07 Jun 2020, 16:40

All wise considerations

About the qualifying path, it seems to me that the major knots could be the barrage Kenya v Colombia and, overall, the repechage tournament. The rest of the fixtures appear affordable, if the pandemic doesn't revamp

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 10 Jun 2020, 13:41

Thomas wrote:The other issue that comes into play is financial necessity. how long can NZ hold out without foreign capital and tourism coming in that helps rural communities?


Not to put too fine a point on it but are they really going to be expecting a big tourism boost from this?

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby victorsra » Wed, 10 Jun 2020, 17:50

Well, WRWC 2021 will be 100% in Auckland region...
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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sat, 13 Jun 2020, 10:31

The september's Euro qualifying has been postponed, the new dates will be published in an undefined "later"

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby johnbirch » Sat, 13 Jun 2020, 12:57

Canalina wrote:The september's Euro qualifying has been postponed, the new dates will be published in an undefined "later"
Unless I have missed it there is now no international rugby - 7s or 15s - currently scheduled for this year. There is talk about Autumn Internationals in Europe, but nothing on paper. New Zealand have vaguely said that they were looking to get some opposition to come in to replace their cancelled internationals, but again no fixtures announced yet.

You feel that everyone is holding their breath to see which way things go over the next month or so.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sun, 21 Jun 2020, 11:34

If the rumors about the men's dates purposed by Rugby Europe are true, october 11/november 1 is the frame to try to finish the season 2019/2020.

So, very tentatively, we could trace this guide line
October: Euro Championship 2020 (two games still to be played: Spa-Rus, Spa-Ned)
November: RWC euro qualifiers and Six Nations

The Six Nations still need six games to be completed: Scotland must play 3 games, Italy 3, France 2, Ireland 2, Wales 1, England 1.
A not-so-fair shortcut could be creating a special format for the RWC qualifiers, a round robin where every team play just two games: Italy vs Scotland, Ireland vs Euro champ, Italy vs Ireland, Scotland vs Euro champ. This because Italy has still to play versus Scotland and Ireland in the Six Nations, while Scotland and Ireland have already played their game; the RWC qualifiers would occupy just two weekends and those two italian games could be considered also part of the Six Nations, "killing two birds with one stone".
The remaining four Six Nations games (Sco-Fra, Wal-Sco, Fra-Ire, Ita-Eng) could be played in two december's weekends.

There also the Euro 7s Championship to be played, ideally in one only weekend, but it seems hard to insert also that event in the calendar. For the Olympic 7s qualifiers instead I think there's enough room in 2021

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 21 Jun 2020, 13:13

Sevens were totally cancelled IIRC

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sun, 21 Jun 2020, 16:21

I had read that just the conference was cancelled but 7s Championship and 7s Trophy were still in the program. If they have cancelled it all, I missed the news.

Uhm, now I remember that a pair of days ago I've read an interview with the ukrainian coach, where he said that he hopes that the Euro 7s may be played in autumn because the opposite would be a "disaster" for the development of nations like Ukraine. So I think that Championship and Trophy are still in

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sat, 04 Jul 2020, 11:17

Khamova about the last year's duel between Kazakhstan and China

“I think around 70 per cent of the team had never played 15s before"

https://www.asiarugby.com/2020/07/04/ka ... up-return/

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Thomas » Sun, 05 Jul 2020, 14:07

Canalina wrote:Khamova about the last year's duel between Kazakhstan and China

“I think around 70 per cent of the team had never played 15s before"

https://www.asiarugby.com/2020/07/04/ka ... up-return/


Will be good to have Kazakhstan back, long time in the wilderness.

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Wed, 22 Jul 2020, 08:10

If World Rugby and Rugby Europe weren't able to take a decision about the end-of-the-year games before the first days of august, the next step in their working plan is to play the qualifiers "using agreed rankings, with format to be decided".
I suppose that this could mean that the Euro Championship could be cancelled and that all the euro teams could be gather together in the qualifying, maybe with this format:

quarterfinals
Italy bye
Scotland v Russia
Spain v Netherlands
Ireland bye

semifinals
Italy v Sco/Rus
Ireland v Spa/Ned

final
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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sat, 01 Aug 2020, 06:55

Asia Rugby cancelled all the events until the end of 2020. So also the asian WRWCQ are postponed again

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Re: 2021 Womens Rugby World Cup

Postby Canalina » Sun, 02 Aug 2020, 12:21

A glance to the status of the remaining WC qualifying games

Oceania: still no infos about Samoa v Tonga barrage, and this seems quite strange considering that Oceania is the continent less hit by the epidemic and that local competitions already re-started in many Oceania nations, Samoa included

Africa/South America: no recent infos also about Kenya v Colombia, and this is more understandable considering that this intercontinental fixture seems more delicate than the oceanic one. Africa Rugby closed down all its international competitions until the end of 2020, even if not explicitly mentioned this fixture could be comprised in the decision

Asia: the Asian Championship (Hong Kong, Kazakhstan, Japan) has been implicitly postponed to 2021 after Asia Rugby declared already closed the season 2020 due to the pandemic

Europe: the "old" continent has the most complex calendar. If the 6N women restarting program followed the men's one, the remaining six games of the 6N could be played in the two last weekends of october (but Italy has to play three games) and the WC qualifiers could be played from the second weekend of november to the first weekend of december, in observation to the World Rugby newly declared international window. Before the proper qualifiers, anyway, it has to be completed the Euro Championship 2020 (two games missing: Spain v Russia, Spain v Netherlands) and no one word has been spent about, so far. Could it be played in October?

Intercontinental repechage: this four-teams tournament has been postponed to 2021. It will have to wait at least the conclusion of the Asian Championship, fixed to 2021 as well

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