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Re: South American rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 07 Oct 2020, 08:45

I don't think they said games would be exclusively available on the app... I'd still wait for the usual YouTube streaming.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 07 Oct 2020, 14:01

You can simply share the screen of your mobile in your tv...

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Hernan14 » Wed, 07 Oct 2020, 19:30

Armchair Fan wrote:I don't think they said games would be exclusively available on the app... I'd still wait for the usual YouTube streaming.


"El torneo completo se transmitirá exclusivamente en la App de Sudamérica Rugby, que puede descargarse en Google Play o el App Store."

https://www.cordobaxv.com.ar/se-confirm ... americano/

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 07 Oct 2020, 21:04

Uruguay squad:

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12 players that were in the RWC 2019: Pujadas, Arbelo, Gattas, Civetta, Magno, Diana, Echeverry, Della Corte, Vilaseca, Favaro, Freitas and Silva.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 08 Oct 2020, 05:09

victorsra wrote:You can simply share the screen of your mobile in your tv...

What a PITA...but no my TV is not that Smart. Which is why I asked about roku!

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 09 Oct 2020, 16:09

Brazil for the South American Championship:
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Arthur Bergo (injured) and Cleber "Gelado" Dias (concussion) are out. Dell'Acqua too, did not travel from Italy this time (not sure why). Luiz "Monstro" Vieira paused his activities with the national team (maybe he'll return, not sure), Lucas "Bruxinho" Piero and Lucas "Duque" Duque retired. Jardel Vettorato not officialy retired, but most likely.

Matheus Cruz (we usualy call him just "Cruz") and Alexandre "Texugo" Alves are the interesting comebacks. Cruz played for the Tupis as scrum-half but in his club (Jacareí) he is playing more as fullback. I think he'll be fullback, as other 3 scrum-halves were called up (Laurent Bourda-Couhet, Douglas Rauth and "Felipinho" Gonçalves).

Uncappeed players: Leonardo “Neymar” Souza (prop), Henrique “Caminhoneiro” Ferreira (prop), Kauã Guimarães (lock), Gabriel Henrique “Fúria” Oliveira (lock), Rafael “Latrell” Teixeira (flanker), Guilherme Dias (flanker), Adrio de Melo (N8) and Lucas Spago (fly-half). All very young, from last years' U20s.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby welshdragon2000 » Fri, 09 Oct 2020, 17:48

victorsra wrote:Brazil for the South American Championship:
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Arthur Bergo (injured) and Cleber "Gelado" Dias (concussion) are out. Dell'Acqua too, did not travel from Italy this time (not sure why). Luiz "Monstro" Vieira paused his activities with the national team (maybe he'll return, not sure), Lucas "Bruxinho" Piero and Lucas "Duque" Duque retired. Jardel Vettorato not officialy retired, but most likely.

Matheus Cruz (we usualy call him just "Cruz") and Alexandre "Texugo" Alves are the interesting comebacks. Cruz played for the Tupis as scrum-half but in his club (Jacareí) he is playing more as fullback. I think he'll be fullback, as other 3 scrum-halves were called up (Laurent Bourda-Couhet, Douglas Rauth and "Felipinho" Gonçalves).

Uncappeed players: Leonardo “Neymar” Souza (prop), Henrique “Caminhoneiro” Ferreira (prop), Kauã Guimarães (lock), Gabriel Henrique “Fúria” Oliveira (lock), Rafael “Latrell” Teixeira (flanker), Guilherme Dias (flanker), Adrio de Melo (N8) and Lucas Spago (fly-half). All very young, from last years' U20s.


Expectations for Brazil for the tournament? The U20s aren’t exactly strong so will these guys fit in well do you think?

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 09 Oct 2020, 18:06

Well, we need to give those U20s an opportunity. It is the time, before the RWC Qualy. Those guys are well trained, but they lack a better match experience (and pressure experience) that Uruguayans and Chileans of their age already have. But all the other Brazilian players suffered the same at that age and many proved to be very competitive players. Let's see.

Spago is very talented, Latrell had interesting moments with the sevens national team, Neymar is a powerful player, Melo shows leadership skills. Let's see. I'm curious.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 09 Oct 2020, 18:27

The XV I believe will be picked against Los Teros: 15 Daniel Sancery, 14 "Zé" Tranquez, 13 Felipe Sancery, 12 Moisés Duque, 11 "Maranhão" Lima, 10 Josh Reeves, 9 Laurent Bourda-Couhet, 8 André "Buda", 7 Matheus Cláudio, 6 Devon Muller (or Muller 7, Cláudio 6), 5 Gabriel Paganini, 4 big question... maybe Kauã Gumarães... 3 Wilton "Nelson" Rebolo, 2 Yan Rosetti, 1 Lucas Abud.... or 3 Matheus "Blade", 2 Wilton "Nelson" Rebolo...

Not sure what Fernando Portugal (the coach) is thinking about Rebolo, he played in the Tupis as 3 (usualy starting as 18 in fact) in 2018, but only as 2 in 2019... Portugal called both Yan Rosetti and Endy Pinheiro, two experienced hookers, while the other props are too young... but again, this is the time to give experience for the young guys, so....

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Pichulonko » Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 23:06

Victor, what are Brazil's expectations for this upcoming Four Nations being the defending champions? Also, have you heard anything about Brazil adding another SLAR franchise in Florianopolis as early as 2021 or 2022?

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 23:29

Victor, what are Brazil's expectations for this upcoming Four Nations being the defending champions?

Actualy it is Argentina the defending champions. Brazil won it in 2018. We probably had the most difficult preparation compared to the others, plus this is the first tournament of the new coach Fernando Portugal, that brought many young guys. I think Chile will beat Brazil. But, if the pandemics are controlled, we'll be competitive again next year. I have a very good impression about Portugal's work. Let's wait and have patience.

Also, have you heard anything about Brazil adding another SLAR franchise in Florianopolis as early as 2021 or 2022?

Florianópolis was considered to have the 2nd Brazilian franchise back in 2018/2019, but it became clear we had no conditions of having 2 teams. The idea was a partnership with local soccer club Figueirense, that was in Brazilian Serie A. Now Figueirense is in Serie B fighting against relegation to Serie C. Honestly, zero chances of a second franchise in 2021 or 2022.

Maybe by 2023, if Brazilian rugby does well in this post-pandemics economic crisis and if the RWC Qualy (+ SLAR itself) attracts attention enough to make a second franchise viable.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 14 Oct 2020, 14:08

Confirmed: he South American Championship won't award ranking points or caps for the players.

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Positive fact about the Brazilian team: only 2 players are qualified by residency, Josh Reeves (NZ) and Devon Muller (SA). Bourda-Couhet was born in France, but has Brazilian mother. All others were born in Brazil. This is a process we were expecting to happen, even with the U20s not doing well.

Massari, that plays in Italy, was born in Brazil (São Paulo) and, interesting fact, he is a relative of former Brazil president Michel Temer (the president before Bolsonaro). Massari's father is Italian, his mother Brazilian. https://milano.corriere.it/19_giugno_14 ... 01f9.shtml

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 15 Oct 2020, 22:51

Uruguay: 15 Rodrigo Silva, 14 Federico Favaro, 13 Nicolás Freitas, 12 Juan Pablo Castro, 11 Juan Manuel Alonso, 10 Felipe Etcheverry, 9 Guillermo Lijtenstein, 8 Manuel Diana, 7 Santiago Civetta (c), 6 Leandro Segredo, 5 Lorenzo Surraco, 4 Juanjuan Garese, 3 Diego Arbelo, 2 Guillermo Pujadas, 1 Ezequiel Ramos;

16 Agustín Conserva, 17 Ignacio Peculo, 18 Santiago Civetta, 19 Felipe Aliaga, 20 Federico Di Bueno, 21 Ignacio Rodríguez, 22 Jose Iruleguy, 23 Andés Vilaseca, 24 Felipe Arcos Pérez, 25 Eric Dosantos, 26 Nahuel Sánchez;

Brazil: 15 Daniel Sancery, 14 Roberto Tenorio, 13 Felipe Sancery (c), 12 Moisés Duque, 11 Daniel “Maranhão” Silva, 10 Lucas Spago, 9 Douglas Rauth, 8 André “Buda” Arruda, 7 Devon Muller, 6 Matheus Cláudio, 5 Gabriel Paganini, 4 Kauã Guimarães, 3 Matheus “Blade” Rocha, 2 Endy Pinheiro, 1 Lucas Abud;

16 Yan Rosetti, 17 Wilton “Nelson” Rebolo, 18 Henrique “Caminhoneiro” Ferreira, 19 Leonardo “Neymar” Souza, 20 Gabriel “Fúria” Oliveira, 21 Adrio de Melo, 22 Rafael “Latrell”Teixeira, 23 Felipinho Gonçalves, 24 Lucas “Zé” Tranquez, 25 Lorenzo Massari, 26 Laurent Bourda-Couhet;

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 17 Oct 2020, 19:11

The app is working. Good start for Chile!

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Re: South American rugby

Postby m.map » Sat, 17 Oct 2020, 19:17

no facebook links?

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Tobar » Sat, 17 Oct 2020, 20:04

They’re showing it on YouTube too but for some inexplicable reason they keep changing the format. At first it was just a smaller picture with sponsors on the side and then it was showing people watching the game in the broadcast booth. Now it’s just audio. Bizarre because the app is perfectly fine.

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Re: South American rugby

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Thomas » Sat, 17 Oct 2020, 20:33

what game, wasn't expecting this result, truth be told

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 17 Oct 2020, 20:46

Heartbreaking. But congratulations Chile! Great match.

FT - Argentina 25-24 Chile


Argentina : 1 Javier Díaz, 2 Leonel Oviedo, 3 Lucas Favre, 4 Santiago Portillo, 5 Franco Molina, 6 Lautaro Bavaro, 7 Javier Ortega Desio, 8 Bautista Pedemonte, 9 Lautaro Bázan Vélez, 10 Martín Elías, 11 Martín Cancelliere, 12 Juan Pablo Castro, 13 Tomás Cubilla, 14 Mateo Carreras, 15 Juan Bautista Daireaux;

Suplentes: 16 Ignacio Ruiz, 17 Rodrigo Martínez, 18 Francisco Minervino, 19 Estanislao Carullo, 20 Federico Guttiérrez, 21 Joaquín Pellandini, 22 Santiago Mare, 23 Matías Osadczuk, 24 Teo Castiglioni, 25 Juan Cruz Pérez Rachel, 26 Santiago Ruiz;

Chile: 1 Javier Carrasco, 2 Tomas Dussaillant, 3 Matías Dittus, 4 Clemente Saavedra, 5 Javier Eissmann, 6 Ignacio Silva, 7 Martín Sigren, 8 Nicolás Garafulic, 9 Marcelo Torrealba, 10 Francisco Urroz, 11 Matías Garafulic, 12 Santiago Videla, 13 Domingo Saavedra, 14 Julio Blanc, 15 Rodrigo Fernández;

Suplentes: 16 Augusto Böhme, 17 Iñaki Gurruchaga, 18 Esteban Inostroza, 19 Salvador Lues, 20 Santiago Pedrero, 21 Thomas Orchard, 22 Jan Hassenlechner, 23 Luca Strabucchi, 24 José Ignacio Larenas, 25 Alfonso Escobar, 26 Joaquín Huici;

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Thomas » Sat, 17 Oct 2020, 20:50

there was need for that penalty from Chile, but good game. nice start to the tournament.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 17 Oct 2020, 21:57

Brazil-Uruguay https://youtu.be/KI-TNL22Mqw

2 drop goals for Brazil in 10 minutes, Moisés Duque!

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 17 Oct 2020, 23:35

FT - Uruguay 25-17 Brazil

Very good match. Tupis changed basicaly the whole XV in the second half to allow new players to come in.

Substitutions were free.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Tobar » Sun, 18 Oct 2020, 00:19

I noticed in the Argentina - Chile match that some players were coming on near the end that had starter numbers. I guess there were rolling subs?

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Tobar » Sun, 18 Oct 2020, 00:39

victorsra wrote:Heartbreaking. But congratulations Chile! Great match.

FT - Argentina 25-24 Chile


Argentina : 1 Javier Díaz, 2 Leonel Oviedo, 3 Lucas Favre, 4 Santiago Portillo, 5 Franco Molina, 6 Lautaro Bavaro, 7 Javier Ortega Desio, 8 Bautista Pedemonte, 9 Lautaro Bázan Vélez, 10 Martín Elías, 11 Martín Cancelliere, 12 Juan Pablo Castro, 13 Tomás Cubilla, 14 Mateo Carreras, 15 Juan Bautista Daireaux;

Suplentes: 16 Ignacio Ruiz, 17 Rodrigo Martínez, 18 Francisco Minervino, 19 Estanislao Carullo, 20 Federico Guttiérrez, 21 Joaquín Pellandini, 22 Santiago Mare, 23 Matías Osadczuk, 24 Teo Castiglioni, 25 Juan Cruz Pérez Rachel, 26 Santiago Ruiz;

Chile: 1 Javier Carrasco, 2 Tomas Dussaillant, 3 Matías Dittus, 4 Clemente Saavedra, 5 Javier Eissmann, 6 Ignacio Silva, 7 Martín Sigren, 8 Nicolás Garafulic, 9 Marcelo Torrealba, 10 Francisco Urroz, 11 Matías Garafulic, 12 Santiago Videla, 13 Domingo Saavedra, 14 Julio Blanc, 15 Rodrigo Fernández;

Suplentes: 16 Augusto Böhme, 17 Iñaki Gurruchaga, 18 Esteban Inostroza, 19 Salvador Lues, 20 Santiago Pedrero, 21 Thomas Orchard, 22 Jan Hassenlechner, 23 Luca Strabucchi, 24 José Ignacio Larenas, 25 Alfonso Escobar, 26 Joaquín Huici;


Finally watched the last 10 minutes. Damn, truly heartbreaking from Chile. They had their own lineout at 89:30 but lost it.

I’ve never been able to fully assess Argentina XV because the players constantly change. Sometimes they have some Jaguares and other experienced players and other times it’s an experimental side with young players. Regardless, this is a much improved Chile side. I had assumed that they would be in serious contention to be relegated but I’m not so sure of that anymore.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Pichulonko » Sun, 18 Oct 2020, 01:16

Paul Tait from ARN had Argentina as 40 point favorites. Talk about underestimating the opponent!

Those of us who are aware of the hard work and steady process Chile has been making under President Cristian Rudloff, this performance against Argentina does not come as a surprise. There are two high performance centers in the country now with two more to be added within the next year. The pool of select players is now at 60+ and rumour hast it that Chile will be adding another SLAR franchise in 2022. Things can only continue to get better from now.

Let's see how the boys fare against a sluggish Uruguay next. Unlike Brazil, we feel that we can beat Uruguay any given day, even though the scales have tilted to their side for over a decade now.

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