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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 01 Apr 2021, 05:45

Bolaroid wrote:I'm not sure what the Siberian ulcer reference means, but if you're saying China is not responsible for covid and its spread then I disagree, it spread from a Wuhan laboratory carrying out "gain of function" research - i.e. where scientists modify viruses to make them deadlier and more transmissible.

But even allowing this as an "accident", China knew of the spread and stopped domestic flights to halt the spread but it failed to alert its neighbours, the international community and stop international flights. They allowed it to spread in Europe and North & South America, indeed the whole world.

So yes China is to blame, and its pathetic ideology is a menace to humanity. I did not say Russia needs to help destroy China, merely that a Chinese led world would preclude the freedoms that we are used to (indeed the Chinese influence in the West is eroding our freedoms on a daily basis).

It has not been proven that virus was spread from Wuhan laboratory and even more so it has not been proven that this is Рeijings malicious intent.
Nobody knew about covid and what he was when Рeijing authorities received information, they took action and warned whole world about danger.

By the way when "Spanish flu" arose in US they did not warn anyone. This flu was called Spanish because neutral Spain announced this flu to whole world.

China does not extend its political system to other countries, unlike the USA&Co they live as they like.
It is the USA&Co that is trying to impose a model of colonial democracy on everyone.

As for freedoms and human rights, in my opinion Russia is one of frest countries in world and much more democratic than some of Eastern European apartheid regimes ...
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 01 Apr 2021, 05:55

By the way do you know that in Europe they can simply take away your children and give them to homosexuals?
Its just that degenerates dont breed!
We show a video about how people from Europe flee to Russia, leaving everything that would not have their children taken away from them!
Moreover these are not only emigrants from Russia, but also families of foreigners.

A couple of years ago there was a case when in Sweden three daughters were taken away from an emigrant from Russia and given to an Arab family!
Naturally he stole them and took them to Russia!

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 01 Apr 2021, 07:05

Тhis is just my opinion, but if a second Gorbachev comes to power who changes countrys interests for Nobel Prize and main role in advertising pizza then in Russia there will be a real mass protest and not squalor performed by Navalny.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 01 Apr 2021, 16:26

FSB today neutralized terrorist of Islamic state in our Tver region.
This is probably first time.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 03 Apr 2021, 19:45

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 04 Apr 2021, 10:46

The international system is at a historical inflection point. As Asia continues its economic ascent, two centuries of Western domination of the world, first under Pax Britannica and then under Pax Americana, are coming to an end. The West is losing not only its material dominance but also its ideological sway. Around the world, democracies are falling prey to illiberalism and populist dissension while a rising China, assisted by a pugnacious Russia, seeks to challenge the West’s authority and republican approaches to both domestic and international governance.


https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles ... ert-powers

Sober analysis of situation, recommend.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 04 Apr 2021, 19:23

There is only one way to prevent completion of construction of Northern Stream. Military actions between Ukraine and Russia.
So military action is likely but think that Russia will then destroy gas pipeline through Ukraine to Europe.
Ukraine is led from American embassy, Ukrainian leadership will fly to West with money.

Ukraine is now a completely degraded state under external control , a pitiful shadow of Ukrainian SSR.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 04 Apr 2021, 19:32

Ukraine is being prepared for slaughter, because no one from US sent them a vaccine against Covid, now there is an epidemic.
They are only helped by military supplies.
Russia offered them Sputnik and release of a vaccine on territory of Ukraine, but they were forbidden to accept this offer.

Result will be as follows. Complete rupture of Russia with Europe and freezing of construction of Nord Stream. Termination of gas transit through Ukraine. Territorial acquisitions of Donetsk republics and further degradation of Ukraine.

Europe will be forced to buy more expensive American gas.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 04 Apr 2021, 19:38

Russia will sell gas to China and a second branch is currently under construction. Welcome to new cold war.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 04 Apr 2021, 19:46

If people do not have strength and courage to defend their freedom and independence then others will decide for them.
This is me about Ukraine and Europe.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Bolaroid » Mon, 05 Apr 2021, 09:47

STMKY wrote:Well, now the reverse process has begun. As I have been writing for several years now, Perestroika is underway in the United States. Earlier, in the 90s, people in the West studied the geography of the crumbling USSR on the news from TV. Now Russians and the rest of the world will also study the geography of Western countries. By the way, recently a respected expert was asked why Russia does not cooperate with Ireland. They the main enemy of our historical enemy. He replied that he was also very surprised by this fact. So look forward to soon the ties between the Celtic peoples, the Boers and other oppressed Western peoples will be forging with Russia.

The Irish are very left-wing, Russia is viewed as right-wing (rightly or wrongly) and Putin a right-wing strongman/dictator. Ireland aligns with the fervent Biden anti-Russian US Democratic Party and the EU, though who knows what might happen in the future.

It is interesting that Britain is viewed as an historical enemy of Russia, or perhaps even a current enemy? because that's not really how Russia is viewed in Britain by most people. Amongst the people at least, Russia is not especially viewed as an enemy, I'd say we don't think of Russia much at all but when they do enter our consciousness it's more as an intermittent pain in the ass. :) (e.g. Salisbury, planes buzzing coast etc). But generally, unlike in the US, Russia is mostly an afterthought in Britain.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Bolaroid » Mon, 05 Apr 2021, 09:54

Vova12 wrote:
Bolaroid wrote:I disagree, and they don't need bombs to do it either. They're buying influence everywhere (Africa, N.America, Europe, Pacific, Carribbean) and spreading their ideology and reliance on their economy. Western elites have been bought by China, but the spread of covid has woken Western populations up (along with their behaviour in India, HK, South China Sea etc).

China offers countries infrastructure projects, economic development, while US offers "democracy" and "human rights".
So its no surprise that these countries choose China. China gets its way a market economy,
US is seeking subordination of countries by direct military occupation.

Yes, it all seems harmless...on the surface. Unfortunately, they're also exporting totalitarianism and 24/7 bio-surveillance, changing the way of life in those countries which have become economically dependent upon them. They become bound to tyrants.

I appreciate you feel Russia is immune to this, and perhaps they are at present, but money talks and your elites are as pliable as any other country's.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Bolaroid » Mon, 05 Apr 2021, 10:01

Vova12 wrote:It has not been proven that virus was spread from Wuhan laboratory and even more so it has not been proven that this is Рeijings malicious intent.

Nobody knew about covid and what he was when Рeijing authorities received information, they took action and warned whole world about danger.

By the way when "Spanish flu" arose in US they did not warn anyone. This flu was called Spanish because neutral Spain announced this flu to whole world.

China does not extend its political system to other countries, unlike the USA&Co they live as they like.
It is the USA&Co that is trying to impose a model of colonial democracy on everyone.

As for freedoms and human rights, in my opinion Russia is one of frest countries in world and much more democratic than some of Eastern European apartheid regimes ...

Did it arise in the US? I understand it was brought back from World War 1 trenches, though I read that it too may have originated in China, as the black death did. Ultimately, most of these diseases do not emanate from first world European countries, they broadly come from Africa and Asia where the people live unhygienically and consume exotic species. Nevertheless, this is not 1918 and the every country has a basic human duty to warn others, China deliberately concealed this and condemned millions to death.

I am beginning to agree with you with regards the freedom in Russia, domestically Western countries are becoming ever more authoritarian (though actually the Eastern European countries with memories of the Communist Soviet Union are most resistant to this shift).

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Bolaroid » Mon, 05 Apr 2021, 10:06

Vova12 wrote:There is only one way to prevent completion of construction of Northern Stream. Military actions between Ukraine and Russia.
So military action is likely but think that Russia will then destroy gas pipeline through Ukraine to Europe.
Ukraine is led from American embassy, Ukrainian leadership will fly to West with money.

Ukraine is now a completely degraded state under external control , a pitiful shadow of Ukrainian SSR.

I read that military action is being taken by Russia because Crimea is running out of water.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 05 Apr 2021, 11:02

Ukraine cut off water to Crimea 5 years ago and electricity too.
It was a casus belli, if Russia wanted to attack then attacked even then.
Now Crimea has its own electricity, water desalination plants are being built and wells are being dug. Billions of rubles have been allocated for this.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 05 Apr 2021, 11:22

Russia will be blamed anyway.
Russian-Georgian war began with an attack by Georgian tanks on Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia, where several dozen soldiers died.
They had nothing to defend with, they only had small arms and infantry vehicles.



But whole world is sure that Putin attacked Georgia!
Therefore i see no point in holding back in any case they will blame us for everything.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby STMKY » Mon, 05 Apr 2021, 13:35

Bolaroid wrote:The Irish are very left-wing, Russia is viewed as right-wing (rightly or wrongly) and Putin a right-wing strongman/dictator. Ireland aligns with the fervent Biden anti-Russian US Democratic Party and the EU, though who knows what might happen in the future.

It is interesting that Britain is viewed as an historical enemy of Russia, or perhaps even a current enemy? because that's not really how Russia is viewed in Britain by most people. Amongst the people at least, Russia is not especially viewed as an enemy, I'd say we don't think of Russia much at all but when they do enter our consciousness it's more as an intermittent pain in the ass. :) (e.g. Salisbury, planes buzzing coast etc). But generally, unlike in the US, Russia is mostly an afterthought in Britain.


I didn’t even think that the Irish government was left or right. It doesn't matter at all. Especially in the modern world. Now is not the 70s, when the world was divided in half into capitalists and socialists. Now, in any country, left and right signs are present in various shares. Think China is leftist? It is much more to the right of Russia. There is more socialism in Russia than in China now.
Putin is definitely not right\left. There are different elements in his politics. Moreover, he is not a dictator. He takes into account different opinions. As for the Russian people. Then according to all in-depth polls, Russians are 80-90% leftists, socialists. This is the legacy of the good memory of the Soviet era. But I think that in the Western sense and in the Russian sense, the left are different concepts. Your left has nothing to do with socialism in the USSR. LGBT people, anarchy and other trash in Russia are neither leftists nor rightists. We call them liberals. This is Navalny and his co. There are about 2% of them in Russia.
Britain has regarded Russia as an enemy for 500 years. Anglo-Saxon elite. They killed our kings, fought against us, very often by proxy. They wanted to conquer us like Africa.
Perhaps the common English do not see Russia as an enemy. Although how many of you do not believe in the veracity of the BBC's interpretation of Salisbury, Boeing, Navalny, Litvinenko .. and other stories from MI6? I think the maximum is 10%. All the rest believe, which means they support the queen in the fight against Russia.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 05 Apr 2021, 13:44

Bolaroid wrote:I am beginning to agree with you with regards the freedom in Russia, domestically Western countries are becoming ever more authoritarian (though actually the Eastern European countries with memories of the Communist Soviet Union are most resistant to this shift).
We almost never had freedom of speech so we value this very much now.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby STMKY » Mon, 05 Apr 2021, 13:59

One of the very rare reports on the Russian TV about Ireland.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby STMKY » Mon, 05 Apr 2021, 14:38

I wanted to find cultural interactions between Ireland and Russia. There are really very few of them. Rugby is probably the most unifying thing for the Irish and the Russians at the moment. We know about the good relations of the Enisei with Connacht. The famous trip of Connaught to Siberia. Games of the national teams of Russia and Ireland at two World Cups. And of course, Vasily Artemiev. In terms of culture, I found two videos of Russian vocalists with Irish songs.
Singer Alina from the Far East.

Famous singer Helavisa (Natalia O'Shea). Folk-rock band Melnitsa. Her husband is Irish.

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After graduating from the magistracy, Natalya continued her studies at the graduate school of Moscow State University. From 1999 to 2004, she worked as an assistant in the Department of Germanic and Celtic Philology at the Faculty of Philology, and led an optional seminar on the Irish language. During her internship in Ireland, she taught at Trinity College Dublin [7]. In 2003 she defended her Ph.D. thesis "Thematization of the presence of a strong verb in the Celtic and Germanic languages ​​(based on Old Irish and Gothic)" [8] [9]. From 2003 to 2008 she worked as a teacher at the Department of Celtic and Germanic Philology at Moscow State University, from 2008 to 2014 - as a senior researcher in the same department [3].

In June 2014, Natalya left her scientific work at Moscow State University [3], and devoted herself to music, independent scientific activities, and family, and also took up the design of clothes and accessories. Natalia periodically continues to publish articles in scientific journals [5] Ireland occupies a special place in Natalia's sphere of interests. Natalia is a candidate of philological sciences, linguist, specialist in Celtic languages, culture and folklore of the Irish peoples [10]. Natalia speaks fluent Russian, English and French, quite well in Irish, Scottish (in both versions) and Welsh, she knew Danish well, but her level dropped due to lack of practice. At the initial level, he speaks Icelandic, Spanish, a little German. Natalia speaks ancient languages ​​- Latin, Old Irish, Old English, Gothic, somewhat worse due to the lack of practice, knows Old Icelandic, Ancient Greek and Sanskrit [5] [11].

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 06 Apr 2021, 09:14

F@cking colony!

CDA Kvien hosted a constructive and collegial dinner with Minister Stepanov yesterday, sharing perspectives on fighting COVID-19 and health sector reform. Ukraine will NOT be buying Russia’s COVID vaccine, which has not passed clinical trials for safety!


https://www.facebook.com/usdos.ukraine/ ... 1128031936

All of Europe is like that, just varying degrees of dependence on owner.
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 07 Apr 2021, 07:25

Do you know what democracy in a colony is?

Yanukovych toppled in Orange Revolution led by foreign embasses.
One of first decrees of new government was abolition of status of Russian language.

Donbass is revolting, people are demanding to leave Russian language alone and more economic independence. There is no talk of any independence.

New President Poroshenko is sending troops. A war with milita begins, naturally Russia helps with weapons, volunteers go to front.
War begins.

In new elections candidate Zelensky promises status for Russian language, promises to stop war in Donbass and send corrupt officials to jail together with Poroshenko.

He defeats Poroshenko in elections 73% against 24%.
Zelensky is replacing Poroshenko, finally prohibits Russian language, unleashes a war after armistice and does not send any of corrupt officials to prison. Poroshenko is party leader in parlament.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 07 Apr 2021, 07:34

Baltic states also prohibit Russian language, but Russians have a choice, you can always leave this Nazi village pigsty. This is a foreign land.

But why should Russians leave their land and tolerate apartheid?
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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 07 Apr 2021, 08:13

For West, this is war of Papuans, in which they support Ukraine. In any case rights of Russian population living on their own land are ignored.
For Ukraine this course will end with new losses of territory.

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Re: Political Thread

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 07 Apr 2021, 13:26

But thats not whole story!
After defeat in Donbass, to save crap pants
Poroshenko arrived Merkel and Macron!

There have been agreements which Ukraine sabotaged.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_Protocol

All this will end with another defeat of rural Reich, Donbass will never return to Ukraine,
next time will write about Crimea.
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